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Title: In India swine flu panic spreads faster than virus
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Published: Aug 16, 2009
Author: By RAVI NESSMAN (AP)
Post Date: 2009-08-16 02:24:22 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: Swine Flu, Panic, Hysteria, NWO Propaganda
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Comments: 29
In India swine flu panic spreads faster than virus By RAVI NESSMAN (AP) – 1 day ago NEW DELHI, India — The streets of the western city of Pune were half-empty, schools in Mumbai were ordered closed, and people suffering aches flooded hospitals across the country as India confronted dueling outbreaks of swine flu and swine flu panic. Twenty people have died from the flu here, according to government numbers available Friday, and 1,283 have been confirmed infected in this nation of 1.2 billion people. But fear of the flu has outpaced the virus itself. "The amount of frenzy or hysteria is totally disproportionate to the overall reality of the disease," Dr. Jai Narain, the head of the regional communicable disease office for the World Health Organization, said Friday. Breathless reports of swine flu have dominated India's 24-hour news channels desperate for stories amid the August doldrums. That in turn has helped whip the public into a frenzy, even in cities with relatively few cases of flu. In New Delhi, where no deaths have been reported, people have begun wearing surgical masks in the street. In Lucknow, parents demanded their children be tested. "Over 1,000 people lined up at different hospitals. ... Eleven of them tested positive," Dr. R.R. Bharati, a top health official in the northern city of Lucknow said earlier this week. In Mumbai, the country's financial capital, the government closed all schools and movie theaters, hammering the Bollywood film industry over the long Independence Day holiday weekend. The government also asked malls in Mumbai to tone down their traditional holiday sales to keep away crowds. The nearby city of Pune is India's worst affected, with 12 of the country's 20 deaths. There, the streets were half-empty, the usual crowds shunned the shopping malls and many workers stopped showing up at offices. With schools closed, worried parents kept their children shut inside. Many who did venture out wore surgical masks, despite a shortage that sent the price of a single mask skyrocketing from 5 rupees (10 cents) to 150 rupees ($3). "The situation in Pune is alarming considering the number of ... positive cases and deaths. We are augmenting the resources in the city to handle the situation. However, we appeal to people not to panic," said Chandrakant Dalvi, a city official. In response to the outbreak, India's government has set up testing centers around the country and plans to increase its stock of the anti-viral drug Tamiflu to 30 million doses, the government said. But officials have also asked people to stop wearing surgical masks in the street unless they or a family member are infected. "I cannot see anything to panic about," said Dr. Jayaprakash Muliyil, a professor of epidemiology at Christian Medical College in Vellore. "These kinds of rumors are not good for the health of the nation." The fatality rate from the virus is relatively low, though scientists worry it could eventually mutate into a more deadly strain, he said. Yet the flu has garnered far more attention than India's raft of other health problems, including tuberculosis, which kills nearly 1,000 Indians every day, according to World Health Organization figures. In Pune, more than 11,000 people lined up to be tested for the swine flu virus Thursday and 73 tested positive, Mahesh Zagade, a city official, told reporters. "I think we are suffering a psychological disorder. We keep asking each other if we feel sick, cold, have a body ache, fever or breathlessness," said a 25-year-old man waiting to be tested in Pune who identified himself as Aditya. "I called up my doctor this morning and told him that I felt like I was suffocating." The entire staff at one pharmacy donned gloves and masks after hearing a pharmacist was among those killed by the virus. "We were planning to shut down, but we know we can't do that because people here need medicine," said Anand Agarwal, the 42-year-old pharmacist. According to the World Health Organization, there were 177,457 cases of swine flu and 1,462 deaths across the world as of August 12. After more than a week of feverish coverage of India's outbreak, some news organizations are now counseling calm. "Stop the panic," urged the Hindustan Times. Associated Press writers Biswajeet Banerjee in Lucknow and Jeeja Purohit in Pune contributed to this report. Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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#1. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)
Swine flu is a hoax
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Big Phama can take their flu vaccine and stick it to themselves where the sun don't shine.
"Yet the Swine flu has garnered far more attention than India's raft of other health problems, including tuberculosis, which kills nearly 1,000 Indians every day, according to World Health Organization figures."
Wouldn't ya' all just love to see those SWINES at Big Pharma take a big finiancial beating on this sizzlin' hoax known as the swine flu.?
"I cannot see anything to panic about," said Dr. Jayaprakash Muliyil, a professor of epidemiology at Christian Medical College in Vellore. "These kinds of rumors are not good for the health of the nation."
Take at look at this: Title: Calling Big Pharma’s Bluff – Swine Flu Misfires in the UK "But what is very interesting about all this is that although many people have been scared by all the hype (which has been led by the World Health Organization and by the UK government) they are also beginning to learn the lesson and have become profoundly cynical about what is going on - more people joke about it than are scared, but they are also beginning to be very fed up."
Big pharma didn't count on the wisdom transmitted by the internet. All Big pharma and Big Brother were thinking about were $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
I am sorry I don't believe swine flu is real but free will means we each believe as we will
so you believe it is a hoax too
Big pharma didn't count on the wisdom transmitted by the internet. All Big pharma and Big Brother were thinking about were $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Big pharma didn't count on informed people like most of the 4um members. Very few of us will take their poison.
very perceptive post
Never had any doubts, and NEVER EVER had a flu shot either.
but free will means we each believe as we will if you believe in it, fine with me ???? I think you have me confused with somebody else.
great quote, swine flu is big hoax
my mistake, please forgive me
www.infowars.com/baxter-p...ined-live-bird-flu-virus/ Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus Helen Branswell The Canadian Press March 5, 2009 The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses. The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses. And an official of the World Health Organization’s European operation said the body is closely monitoring the investigation into the events that took place at Baxter International’s research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria. “At this juncture we are confident in saying that public health and occupational risk is minimal at present,” medical officer Roberta Andraghetti said from Copenhagen, Denmark. “But what remains unanswered are the circumstances surrounding the incident in the Baxter facility in Orth-Donau.” The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany. The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses. Public health authorities concerned about what has been described as a “serious error” on Baxter’s part have assumed the death of the ferrets meant the H5N1 virus in the product was live. But the company, Baxter International Inc., has been parsimonious about the amount of information it has released about the event. On Friday, the company’s director of global bioscience communications confirmed what scientists have suspected. “It was live,” Christopher Bona said in an email. The contaminated product, which Baxter calls “experimental virus material,” was made at the Orth-Donau research facility. Baxter makes its flu vaccine — including a human H5N1 vaccine for which a licence is expected shortly — at a facility in the Czech Republic. People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted. Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could have resulted in dire consequences. While H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people. That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created. There is no suggestion that happened because of this accident, however. “We have no evidence of any reassortment, that any reassortment may have occurred,” said Andraghetti. “And we have no evidence of any increased transmissibility of the viruses that were involved in the experiment with the ferrets in the Czech Republic.” Baxter hasn’t shed much light — at least not publicly — on how the accident happened. Earlier this week Bona called the mistake the result of a combination of “just the process itself, (and) technical and human error in this procedure.” He said he couldn’t reveal more information because it would give away proprietary information about Baxter’s production process. Andraghetti said Friday the four investigating governments are co-operating closely with the WHO and the European Centre for Disease Control in Stockholm, Sweden. “We are in very close contact with Austrian authorities to understand what the circumstances of the incident in their laboratory were,” she said. “And the reason for us wishing to know what has happened is to prevent similar events in the future and to share lessons that can be learned from this event with others to prevent similar events. … This is very important.”
(Sizzler) Never had any doubts, and NEVER EVER had a flu shot either. I give you so much credit, Sizzler
I missed this post by you before
I'm afraid I must disagree. In fact, the pathology of H1N1 is proceeding in a disturbingly similar way to the great influenza pandemic of 1918. It started out mild in the spring, being referred to as "The Three-Day Fever". Very few died, nearly everyone recovered from it within a week. That flu then went dormant during the summer months while mutating and growing stronger in the Southern Hemisphere, and came back with a vengeance in the fall of 1918. World War 1 had just come to an end, claiming over 16 million lives. The great flu pandemic of the fall of 1918 claimed over 50 million. The parallels between the flu of 1918 and this flu are quite alarming. Here's some links to recent articles on the www.recombinomics.com website: http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08080901/H274Y_WW_Spread.html http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08090901/H274Y_Thailand.html http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08090902/H274Y_Delays.html http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08090903/H274Y_Singapore_Hawaii.html http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08091001/H274Y_Toll.html http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08120901/H274Y_More.html http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08140901/H274Y_HK_More.html http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08150901/H274Y_WA.html http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08150902/H274Y_SS_Confirmed.html
it is no more real than global warming
but people believe swine flu is real and panic about it
#2. To: palo verde (#1)
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#3. To: palo verde (#1)
Swine flu is a hoax
#4. To: sizzlerguy, palo verde, Original_Intent (#3)
#5. To: TwentyTwelve (#4)
other health problems
#6. To: sizzlerguy (#3)
#7. To: sizzlerguy (#5)
Wouldn't ya' all just love to see those SWINES at Big Pharma take a big finiancial beating on this sizzlin' hoax known as the swine flu.?
#8. To: TwentyTwelve (#7)
profoundly cynical
#9. To: TwentyTwelve (#2)
nor mad cow disease
nor avian flu (bird flu)
if you believe in it, fine with me
but internet forum is where each posts their own 2 cents
and that is mine
Love, Palo
#10. To: sizzlerguy (#5)
Wouldn't ya' all just love to see those SWINES at Big Pharma take a big finiancial beating
on this sizzlin' hoax known as the swine flu.?
I agree with you
Love, Palo
#11. To: sizzlerguy, christine, ALL (#8)
profoundly cynical
#12. To: sizzlerguy (#8)
#13. To: palo verde (#10)
so you believe it is a hoax too
#14. To: palo verde (#9)
I am sorry I don't believe swine flu is real nor mad cow disease nor avian flu (bird flu)
#15. To: TwentyTwelve (#7)
"But what is very interesting about all this is that although many people have been scared by all the hype (which has been led by the World Health Organization and by the UK government) they are also beginning to learn the lesson and have become profoundly cynical about what is going on - more people joke about it than are scared, but they are also beginning to be very fed up."
Love, Palo
#16. To: TwentyTwelve (#14)
I think you have me confused with somebody else.
I saw your list of swine flu articles and assumed they were for swine flu
but now I see they expose the hoax of this "flu"
I am glad we are on the same page about it
Thank you for correcting me
Love, Palo
#17. To: palo verde (#15)
swine flu is big hoax
#18. To: sizzlerguy (#13)
(Palo) so you believe it is a hoax too
Bravo for trusting your own intuition
Love, Palo
#19. To: sizzlerguy (#3)
it is terrific
Love, Palo
#20. To: palo verde (#15)
great quote, swine flu is big hoax
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#21. To: Elliott Jackalope (#20)
Hi cookie
it is fine with me you disagree
I am going to stick to my guns
you stick to yours
I love you
Palo
#22. To: Elliott Jackalope (#20)
Does any of the info that you posted suggest that the vaccine is safe.? And will you be getting a swine flu shot.?
I must disagree
#23. To: Elliott Jackalope, palo verde (#20)
I'm afraid I must disagree. In fact, the pathology of H1N1 is proceeding in a disturbingly similar way to the great influenza pandemic of 1918. It started out mild in the spring, being referred to as "The Three-Day Fever". Very few died, nearly everyone recovered from it within a week. That flu then went dormant during the summer months while mutating and growing stronger in the Southern Hemisphere, and came back with a vengeance in the fall of 1918. World War 1 had just come to an end, claiming over 16 million lives. The great flu pandemic of the fall of 1918 claimed over 50 million. The parallels between the flu of 1918 and this flu are quite alarming. The Swine Flu (H1N1) is a real virus. This virus has already killed many people. However, it was developed in a laboratory for the purpose of making big pharma lots of $$$$ and also to create fear to further the New World Order agenda. The bought and paid for media is really hyping the Swine Flu. 36,000 Americans die every year of the common cold virus.
great quote, swine flu is big hoax
#24. To: Elliott Jackalope, sizzlerguy (#22)
Title: Kansas health officials Thursday announced the first death of a Kansan infected with the swine flu virus. The media is hyping this "epidemic" big time!
#25. To: TwentyTwelve (#23)
it was developed in a laboratory for the purpose of making big pharma lots of $$$$ and also to create fear to further the New World Order agenda. The bought and paid for media is really hyping the Swine Flu. Yep, I still say that Big Pharma can take their Swine flu vaccine to their own behinds and stick it where the sun don't shine.
Swine Flu
#26. To: sizzlerguy (#22) (Edited)
That is a very good question, and one that I don't have a ready answer for. I'm a firm believer in vaccination in general, but there are multiple specifics about particular vaccinations that I have real problems with. For example, the whole issue with thimerosal is a concern of mine, and I'm glad that this particular compound is being phased out of vaccinations. It's a very complex question, a large part has to do with classic "risk versus reward" calculation. For example, I'm not a huge fan of the chicken pox vaccine. I'm also not a fan of blasting small children with multiple vaccinations at one time. As much as kids hate shots (goodness knows I was one of them.. I do not like needles... just don't like them at all) I'd rather have a child of mine deal with the short-term discomfort of multiple injections over multiple doctor's visits versus the potential for long- term catastrophic damage to their health caused by their immune systems being overwhelmed by being hit up with several vaccines at one time. So, in a nutshell, for things like polio and whooping cough, yes, I'm a firm believer in vaccination. For things like chickenpox, eh, not so much. As far as possibly taking a vaccination for an upcoming flu event, I'm going to wait and see. I don't see any point in taking a vaccination if they're going to be injecting me with something designed to protect against the "springtime" variant if there's a radically different "fall" variant of H1N1 that is doing the damage. There will be other factors I'll consider as well. But I will say that after my last so-called "flu shot" over a decade ago, I'm really quite disinclined to go through that again. If it's a matter of life and death, then I'll take that into consideration. If it's a matter of "get a shot or maybe deal with a week of feeling crappy", well, in that case I'll take the flu.
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#27. To: Elliott Jackalope (#26)
I sense that that E.J. is an honest, very informed and well educated guy. That's a very good answer. THX.
That is a very good question,
#28. To: Elliott Jackalope, sizzlerguy (#26)
According to several medical experts, including Dr. Bill Deagle, the swine flu virus (H1N1) has already muted several times in the last few weeks, meaning that the current current swine flu vaccines already made up are essentially worthless.
As far as possibly taking a vaccination for an upcoming flu event, I'm going to wait and see. I don't see any point in taking a vaccination if they're going to be injecting me with something designed to protect against the "springtime" variant if there's a radically different "fall" variant of H1N1 that is doing the damage.
#29. To: TwentyTwelve (#28)
Worthless to the patient, but not to Big Pharma.
flu vaccines already made up are essentially worthless.
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