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Title: Why Do People Hate Bush So Much?
Source: americasnewgenesis
URL Source: http://americasnewgenesis.com/?p=11751
Published: Aug 16, 2009
Author: americasnewgenesis
Post Date: 2009-08-16 10:47:28 by longnose gar
Keywords: bushmtrushmore, bushnationalpark, bushonthedollarbill, bushnationalmemorial
Views: 1414
Comments: 85

He has taken the worst dictator in the world out of power, put Bin Laden and Al Quada on the run, created a strong democracy in Iraq, and kept another terrorist attack from happening.

He hasn;t had the best of luck as President:

-9/11

-Hurricanes Katrina, Rita, Ike, Gustav (many others i cant remember)

-The democrats widely control the senate and house, so its hard for the man to get things done.

He has had no sex scandals (Mr. Clinton)

He is very strong in hs faith

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#35. To: longnose gar (#0)

Expert Goes On Record: Bin Laden 9/11 Confession Is Bogus

Monday, February 19, 2007

Professor says there is no doubt infamous Bin Laden tape is fake, being used To deflect 9/11 "conspiracy theories"

A leading expert on Osama Bin Laden has officially gone on the record saying that he believes the so called "9/11 Confession" tape, released shortly After the attacks, is an outright fake that has been used by US intelligence Agencies to deflect attention from “conspiracy theories” about 9/11.

Expert Goes On Record: Bin Laden 9/11 Confession Is Bogus

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-08-16   11:56:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: TwentyTwelve (#35)

Professor says there is no doubt infamous Bin Laden tape is fake,

Well,if you can't believe a professor,who CAN you believe?

Next thing you know,you will be quoting John Wayne Kerrey.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-16   13:59:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete (#43)

Anyone with two eyes can see that the "fat" Bin Ladin tape where he congratulates the attackers is a fake. Anyone with basic human faculties for facial recognition can see that this ain't him.

This goon had nothing to do with the attacks. Enough of this red herring.

"Mr. Bin Laden, he daid, suh."

randge  posted on  2009-08-16   14:06:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: randge (#45)

This goon had nothing to do with the attacks. Enough of this red herring.

Yeah,I know. It was a joint Boy Scouts/CIA operation ran by Poppy Bush,right?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-16   15:52:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: sneakypete (#47)

It was a joint Boy Scouts/CIA operation ran by Poppy Bush,right?

I'll tell you one thing fer sure. Nineteen A-rabs didn't pull this off.

I know these folks like the back of my hand. Most of them were wash outs. I've worked with hundreds of them. The featured terrorists haven't the temperament for it.

Whoever staged this had resources, and I don't pretend to know who.

randge  posted on  2009-08-16   17:09:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: randge, sneakypete, TwentyTwelve, wudidiz, all (#48)

The head of German Intelligence was quoted as saying on the record that the logistics and varied elements of 911 required the resources that only a first world Intelligence Agency could provide.

And the anomalies add up. If it were one or two that would be one thing - there are literally hundreds of inconsistencies in the Official Conspiracy Theory®.

How was the most sophisticated Air Defense System in the World, NORAD, made to stand down?

Why did Gee Duhbya set there reading "My Pet Goat" for twenty minutes after he was notified? Why did the Secret Service not do there job and immediately get him out of there? His itinerary was known and they could not know, if it were done by an outsider organization, that he was not in danger from one of the aircraft still in the air.

How is it that there was still molten metal at "Ground Zero" 8 weeks after 911? That was not caused by jet fuel or paper fires.

What caused WTC 7 to collapse? It was not hit by a plane. It collapsed straight down into it's own footprint at barely over free fall time.

Why was the White House on Cipro a month BEFORE the Anthrax attacks? Who stole the Anthrax from Ft. Dietrich? Who reproduced it and micronized it and encapsulated it at a level so fine that it could only have been done with some very very sophisticated equipment found only in Government Bioweapons Laboratories?

I could go on with these for quite a while, but the point is that when the anomalies are added up it points to one thing: The actions of a very sophisticated network well beyond the capabilities of Osama Ben Goldstein and his Magic Cell Phone©.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-16   22:11:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Original_Intent (#50)

You are a conspiracy true-believer. Trying to convince you otherwise would be like trying to convince the Pope that God doesn't exist. You have seen explanations for all your questions at least a thousand times,and rejected them.

There is no reason for me to waste my time being number 1001.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-16   23:14:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: sneakypete, Original_Intent, christine (#52)

You are a conspiracy true-believer. Trying to convince you otherwise would be like trying to convince the Pope that God doesn't exist. You have seen explanations for all your questions at least a thousand times,and rejected them.

The govt will be further emboldened (if that's even possible) because Americans are now so cowardly, weak and unable to exercise critical thinking skills.

The mathematical probabilities of these anomalies alone prove that the govt story is a series of carefully sifted and ever changing lies until they more or less found a string to stick with.

It's no "wild-eyed conspiracy theory" that credible and courageous scientists receive no news coverage while every attempt to prop up the fairie tale is given the whole professional makeup and million dollar talking head treatment on the news and talk shows.

And, it's no conspiracy theory that GE and other defense contractors that are making fortunes (and who also denied America a single dime of the peace dividend by creating enemies to replace The Evil Empire) from perpetual warfare also own those same propaganda outlets.

And, you saw with your own eyes as they failed to tell America when Ron Paul won the debates hands down. So you are either a shill because you or your family receive govt checks, or you are a victim of a mental illness and/or your own abject cowardice.

But, millions of people are so terrified of learning the truth about the evil that the shadow masters have done that instead of following the circus elephant (i.e. the GOP) with shovels they walk on their knees and cheerfully gobble the droppings.

State worship is a mental illness, just like agoraphobia and kleptomania. And for you to begin from a foregone conclusion and then offer any so called explanations in support of it is proof that you're the kook who will not see what known war criminals and soulless profiteering murderers have done in our names.

But, you'll remain anonymous just as a precaution of course.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-08-16   23:45:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: HOUNDDAWG (#57)

State worship is a mental illness, just like agoraphobia and kleptomania.

Why did you leave paranoia off that little list?

And for you to begin from a foregone conclusion and then offer any so called explanations in support of it is proof that you're the kook

Again,you freaks have seen and heard the explanations a thousand times,but ignore them because they don't feed your paranoid fantasies.

who will not see what known war criminals and soulless profiteering murderers have done in our names.

No political agenda there,is it?

And *I* am the one who is a kook?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-17   6:38:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: sneakypete (#59)

Why were no fighter jets deployed on 9/11?

wudidiz  posted on  2009-08-17   8:15:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: wudidiz (#60)

Why were no fighter jets deployed on 9/11?

I should know better than to get into these discussions because neither you nor anyone else involved in the conspiracy circle are going to pay the slightest attention to anything I or anyone else says,but here goes.

Fighters WERE deployed. It is even suspected that the airliner that went down in that field in Pa was shot down by fighters.

Shooting down airliners filled full of civilian passengers is a public-relations nightmare for the US Air Force and the government.

So would accurate reports that some pilots refused to shoot down the one that crashed into the Pentagram,IF that is what happened.

Ask yourself this. "Could *I* give the orders to shoot down airliners full of innocent civilian passengers,or could *I* follow the orders to shot down a airliner full of innocent civilian passengers if I were a fighter pilot?"

No need to answer these questions for me. Just asking them of yourself and giving them serious thought will be enough to make you understand the enormity of the decisions that had to be made.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-17   8:59:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: sneakypete (#61)

The simple answer is that before 911, there simply was no standing plan in place to intercept civilian domestic flights. It had happened only once in the decade prior to 911 (Payne Stewart), and that took 1 hour and 20 minutes to accomplish.

longnose gar  posted on  2009-08-17   9:13:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: longnose gar (#62)

The simple answer is that before 911, there simply was no standing plan in place to intercept civilian domestic flights.

Yeah,there was. Fly a civilian aircraft into a restricted area and find out.

Hell,the USAF even used fighter jets to intercept that private jet a few years ago that was flying the pro-golfer and quit responding to radio messages. They got close enough they could see the pilot and co-pilot were unconscious.

I can't remember right now if they followed it all the way to the point where it ran out of fuel and crashed (it was on auto-pilot and cruising at altitude) or if somebody just computed how far it would fly before running out of fuel and crashing,but you can believe there had been some discussion about shooting it down if it looked like it would crash in a populated area.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-17   9:29:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: sneakypete (#63)

Claim: No fighter jets were scrambled from any of the 28 Air Force bases within close range of the four hijacked flights. "On 11 September Andrews had two squadrons of fighter jets with the job of protecting the skies over Washington D.C.," says the Web site emperors-clothes.com. "They failed to do their job." "There is only one explanation for this," writes Mark R. Elsis of StandDown.net. "Our Air Force was ordered to Stand Down on 9/11."

FACT: On 9/11 there were only 14 fighter jets on alert in the contiguous 48 states. No computer network or alarm automatically alerted the North American Air Defense Command (NORAD) of missing planes. "They [civilian Air Traffic Control, or ATC] had to pick up the phone and literally dial us," says Maj. Douglas Martin, public affairs officer for NORAD. Boston Center, one of 22 Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regional ATC facilities, called NORAD's Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) three times: at 8:37 am EST to inform NEADS that Flight 11 was hijacked; at 9:21 am to inform the agency, mistakenly, that Flight 11 was headed for Washington (the plane had hit the North Tower 35 minutes earlier); and at 9:41 am to (erroneously) identify Delta Air Lines Flight 1989 from Boston as a possible hijacking. The New York ATC called NEADS at 9:03 am to report that United Flight 175 had been hijacked — the same time the plane slammed into the South Tower. Within minutes of that first call from Boston Center, NEADS scrambled two F-15s from Otis Air Force Base in Falmouth, Mass., and three F-16s from Langley Air National Guard Base in Hampton, Va. None of the fighters got anywhere near the pirated planes.

Why couldn't ATC find the hijacked flights? When the hijackers turned off the planes' transponders, which broadcast identifying signals, ATC had to search 4500 identical radar blips crisscrossing some of the country's busiest air corridors. And NORAD's sophisticated radar? It ringed the continent, looking outward for threats, not inward. "It was like a doughnut," Martin says. "There was no coverage in the middle." Pre-9/11, flights originating in the States were not seen as threats and NORAD wasn't prepared to track them.

longnose gar  posted on  2009-08-17   9:35:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: longnose gar (#64)

"There is only one explanation for this," writes Mark R. Elsis of StandDown.net. "Our Air Force was ordered to Stand Down on 9/11."

"Sneakypete from 4um says there IS an explanation for this. They were never ordered to take off and intercept any of the airlners."

This is NOT the same thing as saying "they were ordered to Stand Down",except for in Conspiracy World". There are fighters on Stand BY 24 hours a day every day of the year,but none of them take off to intercept anything until ordered to do so by a senior USAF officer.

I have no idea who that Elsis dude is,but I have always found sneakypete to be a very reliable source.

Then again,I may be as biased as you are.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-17   14:34:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: sneakypete, longnose gar, Bill D Berger, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, all (#77)

Sneakypete from 4um says there IS an explanation for this. They were never ordered to take off and intercept any of the airlners."

This is NOT the same thing as saying "they were ordered to Stand Down"

Failing to activate forces, or delaying their arrival is the same as "Standing Down" when the intentional omission or failure originates at the top of the chain of command.

You are trying to split hairs or see how many angels you can fit on the head of a pin.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-17   14:56:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Original_Intent (#80)

You are trying to split hairs or see how many angels you can fit on the head of a pin.

I guess that all depends on your viewpoint.

From MY POV,that is what you are doing in order to make the facts fit your wishes.

Or maybe you have never been in the military and don't understand that Standing Down is a active measure,not a passive one in military-speak? When you tell the boys on the ready line to Stand Down,what you are telling them is they are no longer on alert.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-17   21:12:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#82. To: sneakypete, Original_Intent (#81)

Which of you can balance more angels on the head of a pin? I'm thinking of starting a pool, so before you answer I'll need to get the reports back about wax and moisture content of each of your residences.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-08-17 21:19:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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