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Title: Is Obama building an alternative Government
Source: Freedomsnotfree
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Published: Aug 16, 2009
Author: Freedomsnotfree
Post Date: 2009-08-16 21:20:56 by Freedomsnotfree
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Views: 1126
Comments: 34

WHY is Obama building an alternative government with his so-called "czars" he he wasn't planning on an "event" where he could suspend the Constitution under a National State of Emergency and do an end run around our representative form of government...honestly, it's the only thing that makes sense...where are we now...35 "czars" that are absolutely unaccountable to anybody but this control freak/communist?

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-08-16   21:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

he's not doing this unilaterally. he's the chosen ONE to hammer the final nails in the coffin.

christine  posted on  2009-08-16   21:25:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/41413

The Smooth Criminal Transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama

Exerpt:

The empire’s facilitator

Beneath his seemingly boundless charisma and charm, Barack Obama has always been an utterly ruthless politician. He has been a compromiser who has danced with the darkest forces of political and criminal power, while winning over common people; a consensus-abiding chameleon and a “pragmatist”. Obama is the true model of what George W. Bush only claimed to be: “a uniter, not a divider”.

The signs were clear from the early days of the presidential contest that Obama was, like every presidential candidate, a handpicked puppet. His cadre of national security and foreign policy advisors included the most notorious war criminals, intelligence/security “advisors” and corrupt think tank assets in the world. His campaign was bankrolled by Wall Street, and big corporations. His policy agenda was taken from the playbook of the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. Both neoliberal (and neocon) elite power and money coalesced behind Obama, as his political rivals dropped off.

Obama’s record in the US Senate was one of general complicity with Bush/Cheney and the status quo, including enthusiastic support of the consensus "war on terrorism" deception and the big 9/11 lie. Former US congresswoman Cynthia McKinney has described how, in her encounters with Obama, the senator from Illinois repeatedly refused to act in opposition to Bush/Cheney policies. Time again, during his days in the Senate, and throughout the presidential campaign, Obama has not only fully supported the Bush/Cheney administration on the Patriot Act, and the wholesale the militarization and criminalization of the United States.

christine  posted on  2009-08-16   21:32:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

he's not doing this unilaterally. he's the chosen ONE to hammer the final nails in the coffin.

Agreed 100%...I think we're in for a major "event" in the near future.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-08-16   21:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The signs were clear from the early days of the presidential contest that Obama was, like every presidential candidate, a handpicked puppet

no doubt

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-08-16   21:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

so do i.

christine  posted on  2009-08-16   22:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Agreed 100%...I think we're in for a major "event" in the near future.

If history is any guide, the "event" will lead to a "night of the long-knifes" situation.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-08-16   22:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If history is any guide, the "event" will lead to a "night of the long-knifes" situation.

That or the day of the short-guns.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-16   22:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

all presidents for more than the past sixty years have worked for the alternative government with many of them, congressmen, and supreme court justices being members of the organization comprising the alternate government. the RNC, the DNC, and the main stream media are all controlled by the alternative government and they are the council on foreign relations.

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IRTorqued  posted on  2009-08-16   22:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I hone mine on a slow-speed marble wheel and whet it on a fine Arkansas stone.

Pays to keep them sharp - for emergencies.

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randge  posted on  2009-08-16   22:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

folks are waking up exponentially...they are in for a rude surprise.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-08-16   22:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Obama is the true model of what George W. Bush only claimed to be: “a uniter, not a divider”.

That's 'cuz Barry carries the wild card: 'protected class'. Millions, who consider themselves 'fair minded' voted for him, and will fall in line, to their own peril.

Thanks for nuthin', Jr.

Old Fud  posted on  2009-08-16   22:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

yes...but I believe with the blatant appointment of these "czars" we are seeing the end run...they have to make the big push fast, the people are finally waking up. The people still have control of the electorate at the local level...the appointment of these "czars" removes all pretense.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-08-16   22:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's happening everywhere - the Irish Government are creating a "National Asset Management Agency" to deal with what they've termed as "toxic assets", ie, debt of companies, etc. When it's created, it'll be the largest holder of equity in the entire world. Aside from the obvious corruption, I wonder what else is behind NAMA?

NO to Lisbon! I fear a YES verdict more than Swine Flu....

irishthatcherite  posted on  2009-08-16   22:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

how do you think it will compare to that most barbarous act of shadyism which brought us the patriot act, you know the one brought to us by baalzabush.

The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2009-08-16   22:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Until we return to hand counted, paper ballots, in plain view at the precinct level; we are totally screwed.

The 'Help America Vote Bill' was the final nail in our country's coffin.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-16   22:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the CFR definitely knows their time is short but if one looks at their goals and history they are right on their time line they laid out in 1913.

The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2009-08-16   22:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

that is a fact that only a brain dead dupe who believes the RNCFR and the DNCFR are at odds with each other would dare dispute.

The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2009-08-16   23:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's happening everywhere - the Irish Government are creating a "National Asset Management Agency" to deal with what they've termed as "toxic assets", ie, debt of companies, etc. When it's created, it'll be the largest holder of equity in the entire world. Aside from the obvious corruption, I wonder what else is behind NAMA?

you even have the pope coming out calling for a "world" government. I didn't know the Irish government had established NAMA. thanks

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-08-17   8:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

no doubt...the mask has been removed and all pretense done away with

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-08-17   8:48:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

yes...but I believe with the blatant appointment of these "czars" we are seeing the end run...they have to make the big push fast, the people are finally waking up. The people still have control of the electorate at the local level...the appointment of these "czars" removes all pretense.

Just a note: If the government circumnavigates the Constitution in major ways, that means that the Constitution itself is no longer valid in their eyes. If this is the case, then the appropriating of powers to them VIA the Constitution is then null and void as well. Meaning, if they break the law of the land in a major way, we are under no obligation to consider their powers as existing any longer and are free to remove them at will, by whatever means.

Just sayin'. :)

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-17   8:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

you even have the pope coming out calling for a "world" government.

Yes, I caught that. I really need to find a new religion for myself.. LOL

I didn't know the Irish government had established NAMA. thanks

You're welcome, it's believed that this "NAMA" in Ireland is litmus test - other governments will follow suit in time.

NO to Lisbon! I fear a YES verdict more than Swine Flu....

irishthatcherite  posted on  2009-08-17   9:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I hear you...just sayin' :?)

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-08-17   9:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Obama is simply continuing, with a greater urgency, a complete restructuring of our government. As the Rs were OK with Bush doing as he pleased, now the Ds are likewise as happy. Unless a alternative choice bubbles up the scenario will go predictable; the Rs will take back the House in '10 offering hope to the 30% who still think they're wonderful. And what will a change in '10 accomplish in terms of a restoration of a constitutional government? Absolutely nothing. The Agenda will continue on unabated.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-17   9:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yes, I caught that. I really need to find a new religion for myself.. LOL

It's a crying shame isn't it? I've tried to ask my Catholic friends about this, but never seem to get anything but a sad kind of silence as a reply.

Too bad really, of all of the faiths, Catholicism and Orthodox always seemed to me to be the most time tested and consistent. And now the Pope is jumping on the NWO bandwagon full force and letting shine his inner Hitler Youth. :(

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-17   9:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

control freak/communist?

For a control freak, he sure seems to have ceded a lot of control to the Congress in the health care debate so far. I will agree with you the day he throws up his hands, says "I tried to play fair" and then decrees a new health care system via executive order.

I always chuckle at the terms "communism/communist" also. There has never yet existed a communist government in the world. In fact, even the term "communist government" is an oxymoron. Karl Marx defined communism as "the withering away of the state." We are farther away from that than ever in this country. The state has never been stronger.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-08-17   9:52:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

hope you're wrong...I'm running into a lot of upset, former, republicans. It's globalism vs Constitutionalism...nothing less

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-08-17   9:54:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

For a control freak, he sure seems to have ceded a lot of control to the Congress in the health care debate so far

we're a declared "National Emerganecy" from barry and his "czars" implementing their idea of how a government should be run

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-08-17   9:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There has never yet existed a communist government in the world. In fact, even the term "communist government" is an oxymoron. Karl Marx defined communism as "the withering away of the state." We are farther away from that than ever in this country. The state has never been stronger.

You've perhaps forgotten about the interim phase that Marx referred to as the dictatorship of the proletariat, that precedes the "supreme communist man" who lives in a state of class aware and fully class justice "moral" anarchy.

We've had communist governments, because the terms are not contradictory, given that it's an interim state of being.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-17   10:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Just a note: If the government circumnavigates the Constitution in major ways, that means that the Constitution itself is no longer valid in their eyes. If this is the case, then the appropriating of powers to them VIA the Constitution is then null and void as well. Meaning, if they break the law of the land in a major way, we are under no obligation to consider their powers as existing any longer and are free to remove them at will, by whatever means.

Been thinking that myself! I mean it only makes good sense.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-08-17   10:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's a crying shame isn't it? I've tried to ask my Catholic friends about this, but never seem to get anything but a sad kind of silence as a reply.

I can imagine, It's the kinda thing that leaves someone speechless.

Too bad really, of all of the faiths, Catholicism and Orthodox always seemed to me to be the most time tested and consistent. And now the Pope is jumping on the NWO bandwagon full force and letting shine his inner Hitler Youth. :(

Membership of the Hitler Youth was mandatory, but I do wonder if some of the Nazi indoctrination rubbed off on Ratzinger...

NO to Lisbon! I fear a YES verdict more than Swine Flu....

irishthatcherite  posted on  2009-08-17   10:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2009-08-17   12:24:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

how do you think it will compare to that most barbarous act of shadyism which brought us the patriot act, you know the one brought to us by baalzabush.

The difference between the pen and the sword.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-08-17   15:11:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What, the one we have isn't terrible enough?

No...their pretty awful, but at least, at the local level they still answer to us...been to any of these town hall meeting? With these "czars", we'll have absolutely no voice and no say in what comes down the pike...the globalists in BOTH parties are pushing the envelope.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-08-17   17:03:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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