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Title: School prayer charges stir protests
Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/14/criminal-pra
URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com
Published: Aug 17, 2009
Author: Julia Duin
Post Date: 2009-08-17 13:09:22 by freepatriot32
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Keywords: aclu, florida, prayer, jackbooted thugs
Views: 4971
Comments: 94

Students, teachers and local pastors are protesting over a court case involving a northern Florida school principal and an athletic director who are facing criminal charges and up to six months in jail over their offer of a mealtime prayer.

There have been yard signs, T-shirts and a mass student protest during graduation ceremonies this spring on behalf of Pace High School Principal Frank Lay and school athletic director Robert Freeman, who will go on trial Sept. 17 at a federal district court in Pensacola for breaching the conditions of a lawsuit settlement reached last year with the American Civil Liberties Union.

"I have been defending religious freedom issues for 22 years, and I've never had to defend somebody who has been charged criminally for praying," said Mathew Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel, the Orlando-based legal group that is defending the two school officials.

An ACLU official said the school district has allowed "flagrant" violations of the First Amendment for years.

"The defendants all admitted wrongdoing," said Daniel Mach, director of litigation for its freedom of religion program. "For example, the Pace High School teachers handbook asks teachers to 'embrace every opportunity to inculcate, by precept and example, the practice of every Christian virtue.' "

The fight involving the ACLU, the school district and several devout Christian employees began last August when the ACLU sued Santa Rosa County Schools on behalf of two students who had complained privately to the group's Florida affiliate, claiming some teachers and administrators were allowing prayers at school events such as graduations, orchestrating separate religiously themed graduation services, and "proselytizing" students during class and after school.

In January, the Santa Rosa County School District settled out of court with the ACLU, agreeing to several things, including a provision to bar all school employees from promoting or sponsoring prayers during school-sponsored events; holding school events at church venues when a secular alternative was available; or promoting their religious beliefs or attempting to convert students in class or during school-sponsored events.

Mr. Staver said the district also agreed to forbid senior class President Mary Allen from speaking at the school's May 30 graduation ceremony on the chance that the young woman, a known Christian, might say something religious.

"She was the first student body president in 33 years not allowed to speak," he said. Subscribe to *libertarians*

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#6. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

I would laugh if one of those ACLU piss ants took a bullet to the head. It would make me laugh so so hard.

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-08-17   16:31:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#6) (Edited)

I would laugh if one of those ACLU piss ants took a bullet to the head. It would make me laugh so so hard.

Internet tough guy alert.

It also proves Christianity is the religion of peace, in the same way islam is.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-17   16:38:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Rhino369 (#9)

Don't pay attention to him he is clueless about his own American history busted him to many times to list...just another FU zionist

robnoel  posted on  2009-08-17   16:58:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robnoel (#11) (Edited)

Rob you are such a wuss. If I run into you I will personally remove you from my country.

Here is the first amendment for the little African sidekick

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Hey Rob you little cunt do you know what congress is?

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-08-17   17:01:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)

Please you could not fight your way out of a wet paper bag....

robnoel  posted on  2009-08-17   17:04:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: robnoel, A K A Stone (#14)

Please you could not fight your way out of a wet paper bag....

You want to know the funniest part of the whole thing? His signature is from Thomas Jefferson, the man who invented the Separation of Church and State, and a man who rejected Christianity.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-17   17:52:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Rhino369 (#20)

His signature is from Thomas Jefferson, the man who invented the Separation of Church and State

Do you mean it's not in the Constitution?

Or are you saying that Jefferson participated in the Constitutional convention?

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2009-08-17   19:38:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#60. To: DeaconBenjamin, Rhino369 (#54)

His signature is from Thomas Jefferson, the man who invented the Separation of Church and State

Do you mean it's not in the Constitution?

Or are you saying that Jefferson participated in the Constitutional convention?

Ooops.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-17 20:50:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: DeaconBenjamin (#54)

Do you mean it's not in the Constitution?

Or are you saying that Jefferson participated in the Constitutional convention?

Yes of course it is.

The first amendment is modeled after "An Act for Establishing Religious Freedom," in Virginia, 1786, written by Thomas Jefferson.

This is some basic American History 101 stuff.

The Virgina Constitution was very influential in creating the US Constitution.

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