This guy is a fool. You can bet that the gun-grabbers are waiting with bated breath for some idiot to pull a gun out and start shooting so they can start screaming about gun control again.
I wouldn't doubt for a minute that they are even looking for some Dim mental cases to send to the meetings to stir up trouble in the hope he will get shot. Preferably a black or brown union member or members that attack protesters.
Yes,you DO have a right to carry a gun at a political rally. That doesn't mean it is an appropriate place to carry one because of the implied intimidation factor,just like the union goons with nightsticks. They don't have to actually beat on somebody with the nightsticks in order to suppress political speech or actions.
I carry a gun everywhere I go,but I wouldn't carry one to a political rally.
I'm of the same mind...after a fashion. If everybody is showing up and just talking/yelling, yeah, keep the heater at home. If union thugs show up with axe handles and big leers (and applied beatings to old men/women), then pack. But only after they initiate the intimidation tactics.
I'm of the same mind...after a fashion. If everybody is showing up and just talking/yelling, yeah, keep the heater at home. If union thugs show up with axe handles and big leers (and applied beatings to old men/women), then pack. But only after they initiate the intimidation tactics.
Hmmmmmmmmmm, Your comment seems to suggest that the old saying is true.
Better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.
Well, my thoughts run along this line. Town halls, in the way most of us "protesters" are approaching them, are local events. We all generally live in the area. The imported union thugs, on the other hand, don't. So they'll show up ahead of time and get off the buses and get their axe handles out (or we'll see 400 pound guys disembarking, with black leather boots on). We'll see, go home and get heat, return with little real effort.
Well, my thoughts run along this line. Town halls, in the way most of us "protesters" are approaching them, are local events. We all generally live in the area. The imported union thugs, on the other hand, don't. So they'll show up ahead of time and get off the buses and get their axe handles out (or we'll see 400 pound guys disembarking, with black leather boots on). We'll see, go home and get heat, return with little real effort.
Ahhhh, my friend this is where it gets fuzzy. According to janet napalitano and most of the leos in this country. Once you leave and return it is not considered self defense. Catch 22 anyone.
Either way, if I attend one of these and are confronted by what you've described; I will defend myself and others whether armed or not.
These people aren't carry guns for protection but as a vague threat. What they are doing is legal, but politically and ethically its disgusting.
And as soon as one nutjob gets to much in a frenzy and does something stupid, it will to unimaginable harm to gun rights in this country, especially concealed carry rights.
This will just let the media smear gun owners as hicks, and extremists. So when the next conservative terrorist pops up we all get lumped in.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but the union thugs, under the direction of the government, showed up first with their beatings and intimidation.
Maybe we should try, I dunno, casting disparaging words at them. I can't say I've heard anybody outside of a few people in this and other sites say a peep about those folks.
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but the union thugs, under the direction of the government, showed up first with their beatings and intimidation.
Maybe we should try, I dunno, casting disparaging words at them. I can't say I've heard anybody outside of a few people in this and other sites say a peep about those folks.
These days it may not be so unreasonable that everyone so inclined should be armed as if it's a Mexican wedding.
We're rapidly approaching a reality where people who attend rallies may be attacked.
Although in times past I didn't support carrying guns at political gatherings (except for Klan rallies of course) mainly because it seems that the level headed, courageous, voices of reason that you'd be proud to share a foxhole with aren't the ones who would pack. More likely it would attract those whose firearms are essential to their self esteem (fantasy commandos) or those who are loud, short tempered (you know, the mean old alkie widower who always calls the cops on the kids for everything) or those who think the gun is intended to help persuade officials not to enforce any ordinances or collect any taxes from him, especially if his debate skills are not up to the task.
In better times I'd say that it's just poor form to intimidate the meek because it could chill their desire to participate in the process. I mean, I'd probably keep my views about the right to work to myself if a bunch of union goons with political signs thumb tacked to Louisville Sluggers were also in attendance.
But in post-constitution America we never know when we'll be hosed at an otherwise peaceful gathering. It's now "as American as apple pie" to wish a horrible death on any who don't worship your god and the politicians he sent to you. In fact there are possibly millions who voluntarily programmed themselves as Manchurian Candidates through the unhealthy practice of Bush worship, for instance. And, if a govt agent-provocateur planted the suggestion and supplied the ammo it wouldn't be difficult in weak minded America to find a few loose cannons at TOS one and two who would be up for the job.
And the lower their IQs the more vicious they are. And, with the admin's blessing they'd simply love to work as a pack (like piranha or rats) and savage any who dare to question the talking points emanating from the men behind the curtain....
Hell, we see them here now that Geldenheeb's playpen for dysfunctional invisibots is down. They won't openly worship an OWL (at least not without an invitation) but they'll fall at Sarah Palin's feet, and that's a distinction with very little difference.
We're rapidly approaching a reality where people who attend rallies may be attacked.
Actually, we're past that time. People who attended rallies peacefully and unarmed, just last week, were set upon by union thugs at the behest of Obama's administration.
What would you have us do? Sign a harshly worded petition? Bleed extra hard to garner media sympathy?
I represented our Iowa store at a computer fair in Chicago years ago and the goonsters on the loading dock wouldn't allow us to unload our own equipment. It was "their job" by contract agreement, and they were downright thuggish and menacing when they informed me of it.
I hate those OC-linked bastards. And, if they interfered with me at any political function you'd be reading about my ass in the paper. And I could never live in a city where such forces have any influence.