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Title: Is there a natural anti-liberty mindset?
Source: Rockwell
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Published: Aug 18, 2009
Author: Karen Kwiatkowski
Post Date: 2009-08-18 09:51:23 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 266
Comments: 18

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#2. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

Has anyone picked up any children's books lately?

Everything you see, for children, is about being like the rest of the herd. Not being independent of thought or spirit. Everyone needs to be like everyone else, and be LIKED by everyone else.

I have watched literature change dramatically over the last 30 years. When I was a kid growing up, there were stories about individuals striking out against the grain, and now, everyone is fighting the urge to be independent, in order to help the rest of the group.

People wonder why schools are failing to produce critical thinkers, and intelligent children. I have the answer. When a child is told that they must be like everyone else, it's a pass for them to be stupid, just like the rest of the herd. When I use the word herd, it's the truth. People are herd animals, they aren't individuals anymore. Everything is a team effort, and here's the real kicker, there's no incentive to do something extraordinary.

The schools are where all of this nonsense has started and for at least the last 35 years, we've had nothing but betrayal at the hands of the educational system.

You want change, throw out every book your child reads that smacks of the herd mindset. Make them read REAL books about real people that will inspire them to be better than the herd.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2009-08-18   10:38:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#2)

People are herd animals, they aren't individuals anymore.

People are both social and individual beings otherwise we wouldn't have lived together in groups since the beginning of human history.

lucysmom  posted on  2009-08-18   10:55:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lucysmom (#4)

People are both social and individual beings otherwise we wouldn't have lived together in groups since the beginning of human history.

We're social, without question. However, our methods of social interaction more resemble the pack mentality than the herd mentality. We have hierarchies, and we buck for position, and if consigned to a position aren't relegated to it forever, we try to climb again at opportune moments. Herds, you're born into it and your identity extends only as far as is necessary to distinguish you as a mother/father/protector and little else. Packs are social with a strong bent towards individualism, herds are the opposite (collectivist). Even the Chinese distinguish themselves individually from others in how they dress, act, laugh, etc. and they social climb as well, and they're the most conformist people on the planet. They can't even begin to match the behavior of a cow herd, socially.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-18   10:59:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SonOfLiberty (#7)

We're social, without question. However, our methods of social interaction more resemble the pack mentality than the herd mentality. We have hierarchies, and we buck for position, and if consigned to a position aren't relegated to it forever, we try to climb again at opportune moments. Herds, you're born into it and your identity extends only as far as is necessary to distinguish you as a mother/father/protector and little else. Packs are social with a strong bent towards individualism, herds are the opposite (collectivist). Even the Chinese distinguish themselves individually from others in how they dress, act, laugh, etc. and they social climb as well, and they're the most conformist people on the planet. They can't even begin to match the behavior of a cow herd, socially.

Well put comment SOL.

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-08-18   11:10:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#11. To: phantom patriot (#10)

Thanks man.

I think that this is one of the reasons that traditions tend to work for us better than social engineering. You can buck a tradition, and many have, and formed new paths in life without alienation from the bulk of humanity, and since they do it voluntarily they can only try to convince others and hope that the others choose to join (very anti-herd). Hell, many of them are our heroes. On the other hand, social engineering demands conformity or punishment up to and including death (herd). And while it works for a little bit of time, it pretty much always ends in some kind of war or mass disobedience. As humans, even the most conformist of our societies cannot function without the underlying pack social framework.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-18 11:15:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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