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Title: HEALTHCARE - Debate's Path Caught Obama by Surprise
Source: Washington Post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... /08/18/AR2009081803655_pf.html
Published: Aug 19, 2009
Author: Michael D. Shear and Ceci Connolly
Post Date: 2009-08-19 06:53:56 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 172
Comments: 17

President Obama's advisers acknowledged Tuesday that they were unprepared for the intraparty rift that occurred over the fate of a proposed public health insurance program, a firestorm that has left the White House searching for a way to reclaim the initiative on the president's top legislative priority.

Administration officials insisted that they have not shied away from their support for a public option to compete with private insurance companies, an idea they said Obama still prefers to see in a final bill.

But at a time when the president had hoped to be selling middle-class voters on how insurance reforms would benefit them, the White House instead finds itself mired in a Democratic Party feud over an issue it never intended to spotlight.

"I don't understand why the left of the left has decided that this is their Waterloo," said a senior White House adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "We've gotten to this point where health care on the left is determined by the breadth of the public option. I don't understand how that has become the measure of whether what we achieve is health-care reform."

"It's a mystifying thing," he added. "We're forgetting why we are in this."

Another top aide expressed chagrin that a single element in the president's sprawling health-care initiative has become a litmus test for whether the administration is serious about the issue.

"It took on a life of its own," he said.

In search of new momentum, Obama plans to discuss the matter Thursday with thousands of his most loyal supporters in a nationwide "strategy call" hosted by Organizing for America, a grass-roots arm of the Democratic National Committee.

He is likely to repeat what he and his top surrogates have said for months: that he will not "draw a line in the sand" about the inclusion of a public plan and that no one provision is a "deal breaker" as long as the final legislation embraces his broad principles for reform.

"That's what we said in June; that's what we've said in July; that's what we've said," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters Tuesday.

Anger about an optional government-sponsored insurance program has been simmering for months, but the flare-up has created legislative and communications challenges for the White House at a critical point in Obama's push for reform.

Polls suggest that support is dwindling for widespread changes to the health-care system, and Democratic lawmakers have begun second-guessing the bipartisan strategy advocated by Obama and being pursued in the Senate Finance Committee.

Since lawmakers left Capitol Hill for their August recess, the national conversation about health care has bounced from talk of "death panels" to insuring illegal immigrants to an outright government takeover of the system, GOP pollster Bill McInturff said.

"Those are bad questions to spend weeks litigating in the public," he said. "They have spent weeks talking about negative premises about the plan."

The president has maneuvered gingerly around the issue of a public plan, largely maintaining that he prefers to include the public option in a new insurance marketplace. He often argues that competition from a government plan -- without high executive salaries and the need to post profits -- could keep big insurance companies "honest."

But Obama and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel have also signaled a willingness to consider other avenues. Addressing a joint session of Congress in February, the president made no mention of a public insurance plan.

At a White House summit in March, he said: "If there is a way of getting this done where we're driving down costs and people are getting health insurance at an affordable rate and have choice of doctor, have flexibility in terms of their plans, and we could do that entirely through the market, I'd be happy to do it that way."

When the Obama campaign first crafted its health-care proposal, the creation of a government-sponsored insurance option "was not the most important thing," said David Cutler, a Harvard University economics professor and campaign adviser on health-care issues.

Obama, like Cutler, embraced the concept because it would afford consumers more options, Cutler said.

But while the idea has given conservatives an opening to attack Obama for allegedly supporting government-run health care, "to the left it's become this unholy grail" without which any reforms would be inadequate, Cutler said.

Richard Kirsch of Health Care for America Now said the idea was destined to become a flash point for the Obama administration as it began the health-care debate.

"They couldn't have avoided it," said Kirsch, an early proponent of the public option idea. "It was impossible. It was always going to be something that progressives really cared for."

Kirsch said early criticism of the concept by conservatives and insurance industry groups helped solidify liberal support for it.

"The right went on the attack," he said. "As a result, the issue got tremendously elevated. Because the right attacked it aggressively, it became a centerpiece of the battle."

Republicans signaled Tuesday that dropping the public option would not garner additional GOP backing. Jon Kyl (Ariz.), the second-ranking Senate Republican leader, criticized an alternative idea of creating a private insurance cooperative, calling it a "Trojan horse" that was effectively the same as the public option.

"It doesn't matter what you call it, they want it to accomplish something Republicans are opposed to," he said.

Kyl's comments came as other conservative Republicans joined in to bash the co-ops idea. Rep. Tom Price (Ga.) said, "A co-op that is simply another name for a public option, or government-run plan, will be rejected by the American people."

One Democratic strategist involved in coordinating the pro-reform message among many like-minded groups said the Republican response was predictable.

"We were always concerned about leading with our glass jaw," he said. "We felt we probably shouldn't make health-care reform be about this because it falls so easily into the socialized medicine, big-government theme."

Groups pushing for a public plan urged the White House on Tuesday to stick to its guns.

"They made a decision in June to be more public in their support for the public option," Kirsch said. "I think that was the right decision. They should stick with that, because it keeps their base with them."

One Democratic Obama ally lamented that the push for a public plan has become synonymous with victory on health-care reform.

"In the last 90 days, it has taken on an aura much more pronounced than it did the first four months of the year," said the activist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss White House strategy. He said Obama's advisers have stoked the controversy this week by creating the perception they were abandoning the public plan.

"If they made a mistake, it does go back to what I consider some inartfully framed phrases from the president and some other administration officials," the activist said. "To get where they had to go, they didn't have to depart too much from the language of June and July."

Jim Kessler, a vice president at the nonpartisan Third Way think tank, said that to the public, the health-care debate appears to be a "muddle." But the fierce sparring over the opposition may signal progress on the legislative front. He said: "We always knew this was going to be decided near the end."

Staff writers Perry Bacon Jr., Anne E. Kornblut and Lori Montgomery contributed to this report.


Poster Comment:

This article was posted at Drudge with the headline "DEMS go it alone". If this blatantly UNCONSTITUTIONAL THEFT and HIJACKING SCHEME is foisted upon Americans by the democrats alone we will have witnessed the two foxes eating lamb chops for dinner. De-mob-ocracy will have circumvented constitutional restraints upon government allowing for the 51% to enslave the other 49%.

The surprising thing to me is that while our elected oath taking liars ignore the CONstitution, the people have demonstrated a desire to maintain it.

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#1. To: noone222 (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-08-19   7:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: noone222 (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-08-19   7:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#0)

Our local Democrat congress-criminal is refusing to hold a public town hall. She's instead opting for an "electronic town hall" where she gets to hold the censor button and only let out information that she's comfortable addressing. Thus, for MARY JO KILROY, dissent is neither welcomed nor tolerated.

They were saying on the radio this morning that this is PRECISELY why she's skipping out on meeting the public directly. She's afraid of all of us nasty shouting people. She only wants to hear from supporters. The bitch.

MARY JO KILROY is a scum sucking coward. Period.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-19   8:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222, Cynicom (#0)

Our political system is now Third World just like our economy. The interest groups line up and bid on legislation. All we can say for sure is that Medicare will indeed be cut back and, yes, "rationed" because the Pentagon needs that revenue in time of collapsing tax receipts. The GOPers, Blue Dogs and other neocons and slaves to the MIC will provide the margin of victory for Medicare "reform."

Joe and Jane American will forever be screwed from this point on. The dumb@$$e$ can still turn out and vote every four years, if it makes them feel better. But their votes have ABSOLUTELY NO INFLUENCE over the tyrannical duopoly ruling over them.

Heads up, Cynicom: You may be on the verge of being euthanized in favor of the war effort. Stay well if you can.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-08-19   8:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Sam Houston (#4)

All we can say for sure is that Medicare will indeed be cut back

Good. It should be eliminated entirely. Medicaid too.

And once we're done there, nail welfare and ADC.

We're supposed to be free, independent and not servile and fawning towards government. There is no authorization in the Constitution for the government to take from us and give to others to make itself look charitable.

I do agree we should stop the whole foreign war thing of course. Troops should be stationed here only, and leave our borders only in time of an actual Congressionally declared war, to return at the end of that war.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-19   9:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: SonOfLiberty (#5)

It would be very entertaining to me to watch your "eliminationist" scenario play out.

It appeared to me that a large number of the "give 'em hell" town hallers are probably on Medicare. In fact, many of them screamed "hands off MY Medicare, federal government." If laughter is the best medicine, I have to thank those "seniors" for "keeping the doctor away" in my own case.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-08-19   9:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Sam Houston (#6)

It would be very entertaining to me to watch your "eliminationist" scenario play out.

Yes, in fact, it would be fun and entertaining. It's not an overnight job of course, once you have a crack addict in your presence you can't just yank all support at once, you have to wean him off. Same thing.

It appeared to me that a large number of the "give 'em hell" town hallers are probably on Medicare.

You should attend one in person. Lots of younger folks there too, who don't want this. The media crafts a very specific image for you to walk away with. Real life is generally a better indicator.

That said, sure, there are very confused seniors present as well. These are the same types who would literally sell their grandchildren to slavers if it guaranteed that they kept their nice cushy government benefits. If there was ever a better example of why government should not be in the "charity" business, I cannot find one. It breeds a hateful dependency and destroys the human spirit and soul like no other graft could do.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-19   9:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: SonOfLiberty (#7)

Eventually the government spending crowd will realize — in order to get ANYTHING passed — they have to preface every act of legislation they introduce with "National Defense ..." as in "National Defense Health Care Authorization Act" and route all funding through the Pentagon and its various agencies, so that the MIC contractors such as KBR can take the "cost-plus" contractual benefit to which they're accustomed (might even say "entitled" at this point).

If the votes aren't there even after that, call it "Emergency PATRIOT Homeland Security National Defense ..."

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-08-19   9:25:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Sam Houston (#8)

And in those cases, I would demand to see an official declaration of war from Congress, detailing exact enemies by nationality, and with declared goals contained therein.

I want government to be extremely small, well defined in scope and powers allotted, simple, heartless and without feeling, if there is to be one at all. It should be able to be programmed into a neat computer algorithm and managed from a command prompt by the average citizen.

C:> "Can I have free government money because I have wounds or I cry a lot?"

C:> No.

C:> "I don't like brown people who have not attacked me, can I send some semi-mercenaries over to kill some of them without going through the trouble of consulting Congress for an official declaration of war?"

C:> No.

C:> "I like little fuzzy animals, can I get money from the government to buy up 60% of total land space to help them?"

C:> No.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-19   9:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SonOfLiberty (#9)

You are gonna be in soooooooo much trouble when O'boingo outlaws dreaming.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-08-19   9:43:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Esso (#10) (Edited)

I'm like the anti-John Lennon. They say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one. :)

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-19   9:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: SonOfLiberty (#11)

You've just got to dream of the right things — imperial "cost-plus to private contractors" conquest (or, at least, eternal occupation) abroad or police state (once again with lots of private sector contractual overruns) tyranny at home.

Eventually our appropriate dreams will be authorized and monitored under the "Emergency National Defense USA PATRIOT Homeland Security Rapid Eye Movement Tracking Authorization Act."

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-08-19   9:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Sam Houston (#12)

I'm not entirely sure you're even posting to me at this point. I mean, I know you're hitting reply on my posts, but it appears that you're battling with your own preconceived notions and boogeymen.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-19   9:56:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Sam Houston, Cynicom (#4)

I have it from the highest source, Cyni is in the hills stocking his cabin with provisions for winter. As a hillbilly in good standing, he won't be easy to find.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   10:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SonOfLiberty, Esso (#13)

You're somewhat right. I meant for Esso to read my last reply to you as well.

There is nothing preconceived about what I am saying. I am describing the reality of living in a totalitarian imperial police state. And there is still a solid majority (including MOST GOPers as they proved when they howled and jeered at Ron Paul when he tried to debate them about it last year) in favor of this system of government.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-08-19   10:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: SonOfLiberty (#5)

There is no authorization in the Constitution for the government to take from us and give to others to make itself look charitable.

Aw. That's just good clean graft.

Anti-racism is code for white genocide

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-08-19   10:27:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Sam Houston (#8)

Emergency PATRIOT Homeland Security National Defense ..."

heheheheh

Anti-racism is code for white genocide

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-08-19   10:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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