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Title: Orly Finally finds an Honest Journalist
Source: youtube
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Published: Aug 19, 2009
Author: Orly?
Post Date: 2009-08-19 13:32:00 by IDon'tThinkSo
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Views: 1033
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#1. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#0)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   13:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#2. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

So when are you going to find my posts about "denying any possiblilty" or retract your statement?

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-19   13:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

It's always good to hear from the ghostwriter of Rush Limbaugh's books.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-19   13:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#4. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#3)

I haven't a clue who this person is.

Is the material in error?

If so, where?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   13:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#5. To: mininggold (#2)

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...ArtNum=104976&Disp=63#C63

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   13:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#6. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#0)

Orly Taitz Interviews Herself

She's just stealing one of Joe Farrah's tried and true news creation techniques and this time it's guaranteed to reel in more ooglers.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-19   13:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#7. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

I haven't a clue who this person is.

Which one are you talking about?

Hannity is a half-wit political hack, while Fund works for the WSJ and ghostwrites books for conservatives on the side.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-19   13:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#8. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#7)

Ah.....for a guy who spends lots of time on a self described "progressive" (read, hard left of center) forum, comprised of Obama knee pad wearers, your objection to what is acceptable material is funny.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   13:56:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#9. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#0)

Hilarious.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-08-19   14:15:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#10. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Ah.....for a guy who spends lots of time on a self described "progressive" (read, hard left of center) forum, comprised of Obama knee pad wearers, your objection to what is acceptable material is funny.

I don't have any idea what you're talking about.

What objection? What "progressive" forum?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-19   14:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#11. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#10)

I don't have any idea what you're talking about.

What objection? What "progressive" forum?

JT's job today is to go around and try to play "pin the label on the poster". He can't wrap his little mind around the two party collusion theory.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-19   14:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#12. To: mininggold (#11)

JT's job today is to go around and try to play "pin the label on the poster". He can't wrap his little mind around the two party collusion theory.

And here all I thought was that this is a damn funny parody of Orly.

She'd probably like it.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-19   14:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#13. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#10)

The Nest would be the progressive forum I was speaking of, and you've yet to object to one left-wing POS they offer up as journalism. It seems you correctly ID the thorns on the political right, but are blind to the crapola on the left. What's that about?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   14:53:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#14. To: mininggold (#11)

You're just miffed because you cant name anyone who has seen Obama's BC of COLB.

Justice Roberts didn't quite work.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   14:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#15. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

The Nest would be the progressive forum I was speaking of, and you've yet to object to one left-wing POS they offer up as journalism.

Since this is the first time I've heard of the site that's not real surprising.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-19   14:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#16. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#15)

Ignorance is no excuse for hanging with folks who don Obama knee pads.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   14:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#17. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

There now he knows you, and you've now seen it.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-19   15:03:37 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#18. To: Rhino369 (#17)

What is that, who is holding it, when was that picture taken and by whom.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   15:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#19. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

Ignorance is no excuse for hanging with folks who don Obama knee pads.

I just told you I'd never heard of that site so I have no idea what you're talking about.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-19   15:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#20. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#15)

www.washingtonmonthly.com...vidual/2009_08/019544.php

Gotta love the unbiased way you carefully scrutinize the material posted here, when at the Nest this passes for news from a non partisan.

www.nndb.com/people/796/0001094 69/

bibliography

Steve Benen

AKA Steven Benen

Born: 15-May- 1973
Birthplace: Miami, FL

Gender: Male
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Pundit, Blogger
Party Affiliation: Democratic

Nationality: United States
Executive summary: The Carpetbagger Report

Former spokesman for Americans United for Separation of Church and State, and interned for President Bill Clinton's speechwriting staff.

Wife: ("Mrs. Carpetbagger")

    University: Florida International University
    University: MA, George Washington University

    The Washington Monthly Political Animal
    Americans United for Separation of Church and State

Official Website:
www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/" target=_blank>http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   15:26:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#21. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#20)

Robin's Nest.

Now, that is an article Mekons5 (a door knocker for Obama, btw) posted.

Why no laughter or mockery at that left wing swill?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   15:29:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#22. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

What is that, who is holding it, when was that picture taken and by whom.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-19   15:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#23. To: Rhino369 (#22)

FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.

The above from your link.

WTF are these FactCheck.org staffers and where and when did they develop the expertise to determine what is real or not?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   15:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#24. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

I have to admit that I haven't got the slightest idea what all of this crap you're posting has to do with a parody video of Orly Taitz.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-19   16:36:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#25. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#24)

he's trying to keep it real, man; that very funny parody is not real...well it is perhaps "real", its just not really real in an intentionally real sort of way. this thread direly needs reality expert.

postpunk  posted on  2009-08-19   17:56:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#26. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

The above from your link.

WTF are these FactCheck.org staffers and where and when did they develop the expertise to determine what is real or not?

Is there any reason you doubt the authenticity? Surely you don't automatically assume Obama wasn't born here, and demand he prove otherwise. Obama has shown more documentation of birth than any POTUS has ever shown.

Until you provide evidence real people are going to dismiss you as leading us on a wild goose chase. And real evidence isn't hearsay from incredible journalists and fake experts. Where is your reasonable suspicion if you will.

The real reason you think he wasn't born here is because you want to believe in a fantasy that he isn't president. He is, deal with it.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-19   18:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#27. To: IDon'tThinkSo, postpunk (#24)

I have to admit that I haven't got the slightest idea what all of this crap you're posting has to do with a parody video of Orly Taitz.

If you're going to position yourself as an arbiter of what are acceptable news outlets, look hard at leftist crap the socialists pigs post.

Example above from the Obama Door Knocker.

Thanks, postpunk.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   18:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#28. To: Rhino369 (#26)

Is there any reason you doubt the authenticity?

Papa O was a rolling stone and possibly a British citizen.

People like you, so quick to defend a socialist, aren't able to answer one simple question; name me one person in authority who has seen his paperwork and who have the expertise to determine whether the material might or might not be forged.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   18:24:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#29. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

If you're going to position yourself as an arbiter of what are acceptable news outlets,

Where, exactly, have I done that?

Don't keep making accusations; show me your evidence.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-19   18:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#30. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

from wikipedia:

Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro (November 29, 1942 – November 7, 1995), mother of Barack Obama, the 44th President of the United States, was an American anthropologist who specialized in rural development.[2] Dunham was born Stanley Ann Dunham and nicknamed Anna,[3][4] later known as Dr. Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro,[1] and finally Ann Dunham Sutoro.[1] Born in Kansas, Dunham spent her childhood in California, Oklahoma, Texas and Kansas and her teenage years in Mercer Island, Washington, and much of her adult life in Hawaii and Indonesia.

Dunham studied anthropology at the University of Hawaii and the East-West Center. Interested in craftsmanship, weaving and the role of women in rural communities and the marketplace, Dunham's research focused on women's work in Java and blacksmithing in Indonesia. She worked directly with poor craftspeople in rural villages to address the problem of poverty, and she created microcredit programs to service villages as a consultant for the United States Agency for International Development. Dunham was employed by the Ford Foundation in Jakarta and she consulted with the Asian Development Bank in Pakistan. Towards the latter part of her life, she worked with Bank Rakyat Indonesia where she helped apply her research to the largest microfinance program in the world.[5]

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-08-19   19:24:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#31. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#29)

You mock WND (I could care less) yet when it comes to the socialist crap that surrounds you at the Nest, you have a cork in your mouth. That's pure hypocrisy.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   19:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#32. To: Dakmar (#30)

www.politics.ie/foreign-a...e-massacre-indonesia.html

Barry is a fraud without paperwork.

Obama's Political Heritage - Massacre in Indonesia

This blogger sums it up -

patriotdems.wordpress.com.../24/the-soetoros-and-the- http://">patriotdems.wordpress.com.../24/the-soetoros-and-the- indonesian-massacres-1965-1999/" target="_blank">The Soetoros and the Indonesian Massacres 1965-1999 PatriotDEMs

Quote:

Time magazine described it this way: 60;Communists, Red sympathizers and their families are being massacred by the thousands70;Army units executed thousands after interrogation in remote jails. Armed with wide-blade knives called parangs, Moslem bands crept at night into the homes of Communists, killing entire families, burying the bodies in shallow graves. The murder campaign became so brazen in parts of rural East Java that Moslem bands placed the heads of victims on poles and paraded them through villages70;.Travelers from these areas tell of small rivers and streams that have been literally clogged with bodies, river transportation has at places been seriously impeded.61;

Pretty horrific by any standards, even genocidal ones.

Yet, Ann Dunham Soetoro, according to all of the MSM hype and Obama57;s whitewash of an autobiography, was teaching English as an American Embassy employee while her husband, Lolo, an Army Colonel under the monster Suharto was busy working as an oil company geologist cum government liaison.

Obama's mother Stanley Anne Dunham had a very short relationship with Obama57;s father in the early 1960s and then went to College, first in Washington and then in Hawai. In 1967 she got engaged to Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian army officer (like herself, a student of Russian in the University of Hawaii) and in 1968 they went to live in Indonesia. There she worked for the US Embassy in Jakarta and for the Ford Foundation in rural parts of East and West Timor. Obama lived there with her from the age of 8-11 and visited her there (and in Pakistan) summers thereafter. He was formally adopted by Lolo Soetoro and has a half sister. The marriage ended by 1970 but she stayed on in Indonesia.

Stanley Anne Dunahm Soetoro (Obama's mother) is portrayed in the media as a free spirit radical with a love for community development. Her work for the Ford Foundation and World Bank is mentioned.

Indonesia in 1968 was going through the later stages of an anti-communist bloodbath. There was a two stage coup (starting 1965) against the joint government of Sukarno and the Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI) : the US Intelligence services trained moslem students and a massacre of officers was staged to incite a bloodbath against the communists. In the initial stage at least 500,000 communist families, men, women and children were butchered by hand and in the following years hundreds of thousands imprisoned and a million or more estimated dead.

Sukarno's progressive regime that had kept Indonesia's oil and other natural hands out of the control on the multi national corporations was ended and an auction similar to the one last week in Iraq took place. A military regime of extraordinary brutality was installed. Slave labour was common in rural areas.

The horrific events and American role is described here:

http://www.namebase.org/scott.html" target="_blank">The CIA in Indonesia, 1965-1967

How the CIA handed over lists of names of PKI cadres to their killers

www.namebase.org/foia/indolist .html" target="_blank">CIA in Indonesia, 1965

Stanley Anne Dunham-Soetoro57;s worked at first for the US embassy in Jakarta and then for the Ford Foundation/USAID. Her work is described glowingly, without mention of massacres, here

www.eastwestcenter.org/news- http://">www.eastwestcenter.org/news- center/web-articles/spotlight-on-alumni-ewc-alumna-ann-dunham-mother-to- president-obama-and-champion-of-womens-rights-and-economic-justice/" target="_blank">Spotlight on Alumni: EWC Alumna Ann Dunham52; Mother to President Obama and Champion of Women57;s Rights and Economic Justice

Quote:

Dunham57;s research and consulting work took her around the world. She became a consultant for the United States Agency for International Development on setting up village credit programs, then a Ford Foundation program officer in Jakarta championing women57;s issues, and later in 1986 she served in Pakistan as a consultant to the Asian Development Bank focusing on women's welfare. In 1988, she joined Bank Rakyat Indonesia, Indonesia57;s oldest bank, and helped develop the world57;s largest sustainable microfinance program, creating services like credit and savings for the poor, which enabled people from rural areas to engage in cottage industries and emerge from poverty. As a pioneer in the field of microfinance, her anthropological research helped shape the policies set by the Bank. At present the Bank57;s microfinance program is the world leader in terms of savers, with an average of 31 million members, according to MIX (Microfinance Information eXchange Inc.)

This article gives a lot of nitty gritty information about the Asian CIA set up, based for some time in Manila, but also covering Indonesia.

www.derechos.org/ni zkor/filipinas/doc/cia.html" target="_blank">Equipo Nizkor - Covert Operations and the CIA's Hidden History in the Philippines

Quote:

American sociologist James Petras describes how progressive non-government organizations can be neutralized, if not coopted, thru US government, big business-backed funding agencies or CIA fronts and conduits masquerading as foundations. The purpose, according to Petras, is "to mystify and deflect discontent away from direct attacks on the corporate/banking power structure and profits toward local micro- projects ...that avoids class analysis of imperialism and capitalist exploitation."

Neo-liberalism today, according to Petras, encourages NGOs to "emphasize projects, not movements; they 'mobilize' people to produce at the margins, not to struggle to control the means of production and wealth; they focus on the technical financial aspects of projects not on structural conditions that shape the everyday lives of people."

While using the language of the Left such as "people empowerment," "gender equality," "sustainable development" etc., these NGOs funded by USAID, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), Asia Foundation, etc. have become linked to a framework of collaboration with donors and even with government agencies with whom they have partnerships that subordinate activity to nonconfrontational politics, rather than militant mass mobilization. (Petras, 1999)

It must be emphasized that the US places high premium on the ideological legitimation of its continuing neo-colonial domination over the Philipines and, as such, depends heavily on US-financed and US-sponsored institutions, especially on the ideological front. Thus, grants are generously poured in by such agencies like USAID, NED, Asia Foundation and the big business-sponsored Ford Foundation.

Training of students like Lolo Soetoro was a plank of the US / CIA strategy for bringing Indonesia under control. The Ford Foundation is named as the main Non-governmental funding agency involved.

www.cia-on- http://campus.org/internat/indo.html" target="_blank">Building an Elite for Indonesia

Obama described his mother in Dreams of My Father (one of very few references to her)

Quote:

"The poverty, the corruption, the constant scramble for security . . . remained all around me and bred a relentless skepticism. My mother's confidence in needlepoint virtues depended on a faith I didn't possess. . . . In a land where fatalism remained a necessary tool for enduring hard-ship . . . she was a lonely witness for secular humanism, a soldier for New Deal, Peace Corps, position-paper liberalism."


209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:bUrPEM- ">209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:bUrPEM- rPXkJ:www.chicagoreader.c...Obama+Indonesia+cruelty&c d=57&">rPXkJ:www.chicagoreader.c...+Indonesia+cruelty&cd=57& hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie" target="_blank">Chicago Reader | Obama-rama: What Makes Obama Run? Lawyer, teacher, philanthropist, and author Barack Obama doesn't need another career. But he's entering politics to get back to his true passion--c

Obama has never mentioned the political situation in Indonesia or the devastating impacts it had on the people his mother worked with. He does describe his mother as a strong, profound influence on his political life.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-19   20:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#33. To: Jethro Tull (#32)

Thanks, bookmarked.

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-08-19   20:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#34. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

Papa O was a rolling stone and possibly a British citizen.

Not possibly, definitely was a British Citizen. Obama doesn't deny this. This was known before he even thought of running for President. Its also irrelevant.

People like you, so quick to defend a socialist, aren't able to answer one simple question; name me one person in authority who has seen his paperwork and who have the expertise to determine whether the material might or might not be forged.

You are assuming Obama guilty and demanding we prove him innocent. It doesn't work that way.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-20   9:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#35. To: Rhino369 (#34)

You are assuming Obama guilty and demanding we prove him innocent.

No, I'm demanding from those who assume all is well with his BC or COLB to identify one person with forensic skills who has seen them.

You've proven incapable, as have the other goofs, who yuck hardy at the thoughts of an Interloper-in-Chief.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-20   9:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#36. To: Jethro Tull (#35)

No, I'm demanding from those who assume all is well with his BC or COLB to identify one person with forensic skills who has seen them.

You've proven incapable, as have the other goofs, who yuck hardy at the thoughts of an Interloper-in-Chief.

Why? You aren't asking that of any other office holder.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-20   10:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#37. To: Rhino369 (#36)

No other officer holder has such a questionable background, but hey, start a crusade.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-20   10:13:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#38. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

No other officer holder has such a questionable background, but hey, start a crusade.

What is questionable? What leads you to believe he wasn't born a citizen?

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-20   10:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#39. To: IDon'tThinkSo, Jethro Tull (#7)

Hannity is a half-wit political hack...

...Who just happens to be cleaning 0bama's clock day in and day out. And somehow exposing 0bama, 0bama's weak socialist policies, 0bama's hypocrisy, and 0bama's incompetence make Hannity a "hack"?

Whatever.

Fund works for the WSJ and ghostwrites books for conservatives on the side.

Wow. That's your "evidence" which supposedly invalidates John Fund's observations that 0bama is a disaster in every sense of the word?

Oh I forget - Brian Williams, Olbermann, HuffPo, and The Daily Kos are "credible."

Tell me - Just what has 0bama and his regime achieved thus far that actually benefits America? ANYONE??

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-20   10:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#40. To: Jethro Tull, IDon'tThinkSo (#4)

Is the material [of John Fund] in error?

If so, where?

I be interested in that erroneous material or claims of 0bama and the Regime as well...

Can you point to anything specific, IDTS?

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-20   10:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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