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Title: In Hot Water: World's Ocean Temps Warmest Recorded
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Associated Press
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Published: Aug 20, 2009
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2009-08-20 15:50:30 by Brian S
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(08-20) 11:00 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) -- The world's oceans this summer are the warmest on record. The National Climatic Data Center, the government agency that keeps weather records, says the average global ocean temperature in July was 62.6 degrees. That's the hottest since record-keeping began in 1880. The previous record was set in 1998. Meteorologists blame a combination of a natural El Nino weather pattern on top of worsening manmade global warming. The warmer water could add to the melting of sea ice and possibly strengthen some hurricanes. The result has meant lots of swimming at beaches in Maine with pleasant 72-degree water. Ocean temperatures reached 88 degrees as far north as Ocean City, Md., this week. The Gulf of Mexico, where warm water fuels hurricanes, has temperatures dancing around 90. Most of the water in the Northern Hemisphere has been considerably warmer than normal. The Mediterranean is about three degrees warmer than normal. Higher temperatures rule in the Pacific and Indian Oceans. It's most noticeable near the Arctic, where water temperatures are as much as 10 degrees above average. Breaking heat records in water is more ominous as a sign of global warming than breaking temperature marks on land. That's because water takes longer to heat up and doesn't cool off as easily, said climate scientist Andrew Weaver of the University of Victoria in British Columbia. "This is another yet really important indicator of the change that's occurring," Weaver said. Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/08/20/national/a101659D19.DTL#ixzz0OkqRrny0
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#1. To: Brian S (#0)
Central and South Texas would welcome a hurricane or two. The drought of '09 sucks.
LOL! It's been cooling globe wide since 1998. This summer has been practically frigid. We've had like 6 to 9 days this entire summer where it's been over 85 (central Ohio). If the ocean is warming (sorry, I doubt it), I'd say, you need to look below the surface to see what's going on. It ain't us.
This doesn't seem right. I'm running it by my climate friends. Stay tuned for their reaction.
Now something just occurred to me. Every raucous hurricane season where we have a brajillion hurricanes we hear about how it's because of such hot water temps and all that rot. Yet this year the season is almost passed and we've had only a very small number, only very recently, and they seem to build and dissipate pretty quickly. I'm smelling BS here.
#2. To: Brian S (#0)
#3. To: Brian S, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#4. To: farmfriend (#3)
#5. To: Lod (#1)
The 3300 Argo bathythermograph buoys deployed throughout the world's oceans since late in 2003 have shown a slight cooling of the oceans over the past five years, directly contrary to the official theory that any "global warming" not showing in the atmosphere would definitely show up in the first 400 fathoms of the world's oceans, where at least 80% of any surplus heat would be stored. Source: ARGO project, June 2009. (Reference)
 | "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C. S. Lewis |
#6. To: sourcery (#5)
Uh oh. Looks like some reporters or scientists are in hot water! So to speak.
#7. To: sourcery. SoL, FF, all (#5)
Central and South Texas have stolen all the world's and its ocean's heat this year.
#8. To: farmfriend (#3)
At least once before when they were caught jiggering the data they had to make a substantial revision downwards on the air temperature data.
This doesn't seem right. I'm running it by my climate friends. Stay tuned for their reaction.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#9. To: Original_Intent (#8)
My understanding is that oceans have been cooling. Both the PDO (Pacific decadel oscillation) and the ENSO (El Nino southern oscillation) have moved into cooling phases.
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#10. To: Brian S, Original_Intent, Lod (#0)
Andrew Weaver is a computer programmer (modeller). He is not a climatologist.
"This is another yet really important indicator of the change that's occurring," Weaver said.
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#11. To: sourcery (#5)
Good to see your handle, I haven't seen it in a while.
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#12. To: sourcery (#5)
Thursday's NASA SpaceWeather site included the following, BLANK SUN: The sun is entering its 41st consecutive day without sunspots. This remarkable string of blank suns shows that we are still in the pits of the deepest solar minimum in a century. If the streak continues for 11 more days, it will match the longest blank spell of the current cycle.
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#13. To: sourcery, *Agriculture-Environment* (#5)
The National Aeronautics and Space Administration has presented somewhat different information on this summer's ocean temperatures than presented in Seth Borenstein's article. Oscillation Rules as the Pacific Cools, dated December 9, 2008 and in the NASA link at http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/jason-20081209_prt.htm begins with the following statement, "The latest image of sea-surface height measurements from the U.S./French Jason-1 oceanography satellite shows the Pacific Ocean remains locked in a strong, cool phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, a large, long-lived pattern of climate variability in the Pacific associated with a general cooling of Pacific waters." -and- Atlantic and East Pacific Ocean Hurricane Seasons Begin for 2009, dated June 1, 2009 and in the NASA link at http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hurricanes/archives/2009/new_season.html, includes the following statements, "NASA data currently indicate that sea surface temperatures in the tropical Atlantic are below normal. These cooler than normal ocean temperatures could "starve" developing hurricanes of their driving force, which are waters warmer than 80 degrees Fahrenheit, thus suggesting a damping of hurricanes." Borenstein apparently chose not to review these NASA reports on the strong, cool phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation and the cooler than normal temperatures in the tropical Atlantic.
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#14. To: farmfriend (#13)
SCREW ALL THAT SCIENCEY STUFF! TAX ME BABY!
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#15. To: Esso (#14)
LOL
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
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