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Title: Sarah and the Death Panels
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URL Source: http://townhall.com/columnists/PatB ... ah_and_the_death_panels?page=2
Published: Aug 21, 2009
Author: Pat Buchanan
Post Date: 2009-08-21 08:37:46 by Eric Stratton
Keywords: None
Views: 542
Comments: 54

Sarah and the Death Panels
Pat Buchanan
Friday, August 21, 2009

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil."

Of Sarah Palin it may be said: The lady knows how to frame an issue. Culture of Corruption by Michelle Malkin FREE

And while she has been fairly criticized for hyperbole about the end-of-life counselors in the House bill, she drew such attention to the provision that Democrats chose to dump it rather than debate it

And understandably so. For if Congress enacts universal health care coverage, we are undeniably headed for a medical system of rationed care that must inevitably deny care to some terminally ill and elderly, which will shorten their lives, perhaps by years. Consider:

Democrats call Medicare the model of government-run universal health care. But Medicare is a system whereby 140 million working Americans pay 2.9 percent of all wages and salaries into a fund to pay for health care for 42 million mostly older Americans. And Medicare is already going bust.

If Obamacare is passed, the cost of health care for today's 47 million uninsured will also land on those 140 million. And if Obama puts 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens on a "path to citizenship," as he promises, they, too, will have their health care provided by taxpayers.

Here is the crusher. The Census Bureau projects that, by 2050, the U.S. population will explode to 435 million. As most of these folks will be immigrants, their children and grandchildren, the cost of their heath care would also have to be largely born by middle-class and wealthy taxpayers.

Now factor this in.

In 2000, the average American male in a population of 300 million lived to 74; the average female to 80. But in 2050, the average male in a population of 435 million Americans will live to 80 and the average female to 86. And, according to U.N. figures, 21 percent of the U.S. population in 2050, some 91 million Americans, will be over 65, and 7.6 percent, or 33 million Americans, will be over 80 -- and consuming health care in ever-increasing measures.

Now if a primary purpose of Obamacare is to "bend the curve" of soaring health care costs, and half of those costs are incurred in the last six months of life, and the number of seniors will grow by scores of millions, how do you cut costs without rationing care? And how do you ration care without denying millions of elderly and aged the prescriptions, procedures and operations they need to stay alive?

Consider two beloved Americans: Ted Kennedy and Ronald Reagan.

Since he was diagnosed with brain cancer more than a year ago, Sen. Kennedy has had excellent care, including surgery and chemotherapy, which have kept him alive and, until very recently, active.

For a decade, President Reagan, because of round-the-clock care, lived with an Alzheimer's that had robbed him of his memory and left him unable to recognize his own family and close friends.

In the future, will a man of Kennedy's age, with brain cancer but without the means of offsetting his own health care costs, be kept alive, operated on, given chemotherapy -- by a government obsessed with cutting health care costs?

Will a bureaucracy desperate to cut costs keep alive for years the tens of thousands of destitute 80- and 90-year-old patients with Alzheimer's, as was done with Ronald Reagan?

What if, in 2050, Palin and her husband are not here. And 42-year-old Trig, with Down syndrome, has been in an institution for years, and the cost of his care and that of hundreds of thousands like him with Down syndrome is draining the resources of the health care system?

Will there not be voices softly suggesting a quiet and merciful end?

In Oregon, the law permits doctors to assist in the suicide of terminal patients who wish to end their lives. Let us assume numerous patients have Alzheimer's and, so, cannot be part of the decision to end their lives. Who then makes the decision to continue or end life? Would it be unfair to call the decision-makers in those cases a death panel?

Almost a third of all unborn babies in America have their lives terminated each year with the consent of their mothers. Fifty million since Roe v. Wade have never seen the light of day. For many, the quality of life now supersedes in value the sanctity of life. That is who we are.

Between 2012 and 2030, 74 million baby boomers will retire, cease to be the major contributors to Medicare and become the major drain on Medicare. How long will an overtaxed labor force in a de-Christianized America be wiling to pay the bill to keep all those aging boomers alive?

Rationed care is coming, and the death panels will not be far behind.

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#5. To: Eric Stratton (#0) (Edited)

So socialized medicine will kill our grandparents despite the fact that medicine is already socialized for everyone over 65?

And never mind Sarah Palin lied about death panels, because it worked?

Doesn't this bull s**t insult conservatives? They really think you are that stupid I guess.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-21   10:02:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rhino369 (#5)

So socialized medicine will kill our grandparents despite the fact that medicine is already socialized for everyone over 65?

When you want to cover "everyone" for "less," you will eventually have to do cost/benefit analysis.

4 givan 1  posted on  2009-08-21   10:29:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: 4 givan 1 (#8)

When you want to cover "everyone" for "less," you will eventually have to do cost/benefit analysis.

And you'll have to have bureaucrats decide who gets covered and who doesn't for critical treatments.

Sarah used a bit of hyperbole in language use, but the fact fundamentally is true. Of course there is no provision called "Death Panels", which is why liberals go around screaming that it's a lie. They're using the words of the rhetoric literally, in order to deny what is actually in the bill but not called the words of the rhetoric.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-21   10:32:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SonOfLiberty (#9)

And you'll have to have bureaucrats decide who gets covered and who doesn't for critical treatments.

Instead of the corporate bureaucrats who do so now?

A business has every incentive to provide as little coverage as possible. Every dime it doesn't spend is profit. Government, for better or worse, doesn't really care. In fact if history is any guide, they'll probably spend too much, provide too much service.

Sarah used a bit of hyperbole in language use, but the fact fundamentally is true.

No, it was fundamentally false. She picked a specific portion of the bill and called it a death panel. When in fact that section of the bill didn't have any power to deny coverage, it was basically therapy for people who were dying. This was rhetoric, it was a downright lie.

Sarah Palin's understand of the health care debate is strong as her knowledge of the walstreet bailout, that she didn't understand during the election.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-21   10:48:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rhino369 (#10)

In fact if history is any guide, they'll [gubmint] probably spend too much, provide too much service.

You have GOT to be kidding...

Government "provide too much service"??

She [Palin] picked a specific portion of the bill and called it a death panel. When in fact that section of the bill didn't have any power to deny coverage, it was basically therapy for people who were dying. This was rhetoric, it was a downright lie.

What's the matter? Don't much like euphemisms anymore?

Isn't "Affirmative Action" actually "Racial profiling"?

Aren't "Progressives" nothing more than "Liberals"?

Isn't "pro-Choice" code for "pro-baby-murder"?

Potentially 0bamaCare is riddled with several "Death Panel"-type provisions - So much so that 0bama and the Dems have panicked. The Senate is even stripping "end of life" counseling language - not that it'll matter much in any case. This thing is DOA.

Btw, a Federal Health Board, aka DEATH PANEL established by 0bamaCare would be charged with collecting data on various forms of treatment for different conditions to assess which are the most effective and efficient. Those recommendations may well decide that Gramma is a lost cause and treatment denied.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-21   11:23:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: F16Fighter (#13)

One wonders too, if there were no "death panels", why did the dems say they were taking those provisions out of the bill? How can you take out, what didn't exist?

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-21   11:27:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: SonOfLiberty (#14)

One wonders too, if there were no "death panels", why did the dems say they were taking those provisions out of the bill? How can you take out, what didn't exist?

It was counseling for end-of-life issues, that she called death panels. The democrats took it out because people believed Palin.

Guess what? In 2003 the Republican medicare bill first funded, counseling for end-of-life issues. So these "Death Panels" have been operating for 5 years! Holy s**t maybe they killed my grandmother! I better check.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-21   11:41:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rhino369 (#19)

It was counseling for end-of-life issues, that she called death panels. The democrats took it out because people believed Palin.

And well that they did.

Remember, the income tax was only for the wealthiest 1% of the population at one time, and that parking meters in most cities were installed during World War II only to fund the war and would be taken out afterwards.

We all know where this is going. I'm sorry, but we're not the dupes that statists believe that we are.

Guess what? In 2003 the Republican medicare bill first funded, counseling for end-of-life issues. So these "Death Panels" have been operating for 5 years! Holy s**t maybe they killed my grandmother! I better check.

Wouldn't surprise me. The GOP is full of corrupt hacks and crooked players, just like the democrats. No big news there.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-21   11:48:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#25. To: SonOfLiberty (#23)

And well that they did.

Remember, the income tax was only for the wealthiest 1% of the population at one time, and that parking meters in most cities were installed during World War II only to fund the war and would be taken out afterwards.

We all know where this is going. I'm sorry, but we're not the dupes that statists believe that we are.

You can't use the slippery slope argument when the counseling isn't at all like a death panel. They literally have nothing in common. Not one damn thing.

I'd support stripping it because if grandma wants counseling for dealing with the end of her life she can pay for it herself.

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