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Title: Imagine if All Altheists Left America
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Published: Aug 21, 2009
Author: jeebsy12
Post Date: 2009-08-21 08:58:02 by A K A Stone
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#1. To: All, Ferret Mike (#0)

If all the atheists left America, ideologically we’d be back to the principals of the Founding Fathers.

4 posted on Friday, August 21, 2009 5:41:23 AM by GOP_Party_Animal

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-08-21   9:00:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Atheism/agnostic beliefs (or lack thereof) do not exclude a belief in the founding principles of this nation. We are not and have never been a theocracy. Americans can firmly advocate and believe in the freedom of man without having to subscribe to a religion. One can also fully understand and appreciate religion's role in society without having to condemn it, as an atheist or agnostic.

That said, there are an awful lot of atheists and agnostics who are total dick-cheeses, and many do fall on the statist side of the spectrum. But as is true with anything regarding people and groups, you have to judge each individual in his or her own merits.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-21 09:04:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#1)

If all the atheists left America, ideologically we’d be back to the principals of the Founding Fathers

Maybe you should show us how a good Christian behaves... Try taking down the article you put up on your site dissing the hostess here, while you are using her site as we post. That would show the world, you, at least, incorporated the Christian principles you expound into your OWN life.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-21 12:11:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#1) (Edited)

If all the atheists left America, ideologically we’d be back to the principals of the Founding Fathers.

oh good....atheists vs luciferians.........

The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were anti-Christ and anti-Christian documents....wish more people would understand that. [Ezekiel 17:7-10/Matthew 15:13]

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edit.

that flag says it all....[the floundering fathers weren't Christians; Christians wouldn't identify themselves with the serpent in Genesis 3:15]

btw....

"....Now you have the answers to what is and has happened to the American people. Truthfully, it started when President Washington used the first "emergency power’s act" in 1791, so he could, unconstitutionally in peace time, but constitutional in war time because it was "necessary" to install the first private bank in America. He then set up each State as a "district State" so the United States could control through its "district courts" what it could not do under the original constitution in time of peace. They took the physical State and overlaid it with a fictitious "district state." That is why you have U.S. district courts in every State of the Union. James Montgomery has documented this action, and I believe he has it posted on www.atgpress.com in his section immediately below the Informer's section.

To get to the bottom of all your woes today, one must go back in time to see how they accomplished this. This is why I have stated that IF the people, the common everyday people, had really drafted AND ratified their own creation of a contract, do you think they would, or rather put you in their position, drafted such a damaging piece of paper called the "Constitution?" I know I would not have. Especially the emergency powers part where once the President took control, constitutionally mind you, that it would be the engine for total control. Such has been the case since 1791. Patrick Henry and the other anti-federalists saw what was happening and the common average man on the street, just like today, said it could not happen and allowed this to happen out of shear ignorance. Today we have most of the people who have no clue what really took place. They cannot fathom why they rape them repeatedly again and cannot claim their unalienable rights. They cannot understand why the so-called Bill of Rights can no longer be used. They cannot understand why the Constitution that they thought was theirs, is not, and cannot be used in the prize courts of admiralty. Simply stated, "enemies have no rights."

What is fascinating is this passage from Solicitor of Lincoln's War Department, William Whiting's book on War Powers, where he wrote;

"The belligerent right of the government to confiscate enemy's real estates, situated in this country, can hardly admit of question. The title is to no inconsiderable part of real estate in each of the original States of the Union, rests upon the validity of confiscation acts, passed by our ancestors against loyal adherents to the crown. Probably none of these States failed to pass and apply these laws. English and American acts of confiscation were recognized by the laws of both countries, and their operation modified by treaties; their validity was never denied. The only authority which either of the States or colonies ever had for passing such laws was derived from the fact that they were belligerents."

Right here it is evident that the States, created the same way the United States was, by the aristocrats, would consider themselves belligerents against the common man on the street who had no say in the drafting and ratifying of any of the constitutions of any of the States. The common man had no money to speak of nor any large amount of real property to be able to become a member of the contract called the State. In all the States you had to have at least 500 pounds sterling or a land mass equivalent to that amount before becoming an elector or even thinking of running for office. This is but another small proof that you and me, the common man of that era, was considered as nothing. Just like we look at street bums of today, they looked at the common man. No dear people, we were never considered part of their posterity and never drafted nor ratified any constitution. The statement the constitution was "divinely inspired" is so far from the truth that it should be stated that it was the "works of the devil." ...."

www.atgpress.com/inform/wep033.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-08-21 14:50:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: A K A Stone (#1)

i know atheists and agnostics who are far kinder, not authoritarian or judgmental, and more moral than a lot of self professed christians i could name.

christine  posted on  2009-08-21 20:23:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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