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Title: LP back up Friday evening? Good chance
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Published: Aug 21, 2009
Author: palo verde
Post Date: 2009-08-21 10:08:51 by palo verde
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(by Palo) I woke up this morning and found this email in my Inbox from an LP poster The Liberty Post server is offline due to hardware problems. Repair/upgrade parts for the Liberty Post server have been installed and configured. The article database has been repaired and is undergoing testing. (Initial appearance is that database repair has been successful, but more testing is required to confirm.) If everything checks out, Liberty Post should be back online by Friday evening, 8/21/2009. Further updates will be reported as more information becomes available.
He must have read it on a site which gives updates on fixing LP
I seem to remember in his first email, he said "bookmark this link Palo"
but I didn't
He is very nice to copy the updates and email them to me as they appear
It now looks like very good chance LP will be up on Friday evening (tonight)
I will copy the email below
Many LP posters have discovered they prefer 4um and will stay here
Many discovered they like 4um and now want to be on both
Whatever preference anyone has
here is the latest update about LP
Love, Palo
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#29. To: 4 givan 1 (#28)
You aren't forgiven. You just run amok on the Internet thinking you are.
Prove it.
"You aren't forgiven." Frankly buckeroo, that is not your call. "You just run amok on the Internet thinking you are." You seem to be under the mistaken impression that we are having some kind of debate, argument or religious fight here. We are not. You are just making yourself look as if you ate paint chips as a child. I am simply trying to find out why you have chosen to attack someone that never said a cross word to you before you opened up on me, and even then I've tried to pull my jabs a bit....yet you seem as if you cannot just be satisfied to be an unbeliever, you seem to have an innate need to attack those who believe differently than you ESPECIALLY if that belief is in Jesus Christ. I'm sorry for you.
Google atheists against satan. They do not exist.
Yes it is. I see your high-falluting antics all the time, miss goody two shoes. Don't feel that my comments are targeted towards you directly; in fact, I am being nice to you.
in high school we spent an entire semester going over scientific 'PROOFS FOR GOD'S EXISTANCE'. Though it was not necessary and was a waste of time. common sense and your inherent nature know that you were created by a supreme being. to claim otherwise is contrary to your conscience.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. So where is this all-knowing, all-powerful hidden GOD behind the curtains? Is it a cretin afraid to show his face to his little children? Has this GOD that you admire so much, failed?
wait justa minute. arent you the one who claims that 911 was NOT an inside job, yet youre an athiest, and an obnoxious one at that. ha ha,. actualy i know you from LP. are you telling me that you BELIEVE the guv'ment BS stories,, but don't believe in God? Good grief man. that's enough. As far as God, He does not have to show himself outright.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I see your high-falluting antics all the time, miss goody two shoes." Is this your admission that you for no good reason chose to pick a fight with someone that had not spoken to you? "Don't feel that my comments are targeted towards you directly; in fact, I am being nice to you." I really do not care. You have become boring and somewhat repetitious....have whatever for you passes as a nice evening.
Google atheists against satan. They do not exist.
And yet He does in His own ways for those who choose to look.
Google atheists against satan. They do not exist.
I don't believe in government. And more than that, I don't believe in faerie-tales about government that run around the Internet. Does that answer your question?
You are welcome, cookie nice to see you on forum
palo, it's Saturday morning and LP is still down. Go fix it. Now.
Ditto ... gimme anarchy any day. Who needs an over funded enemy (Govt) when "every man for himself" is possible.
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.
Hi sweetie lol I was up most of night, I don't know why, I am just in excited frame of mind
LP is up and running.
we are all inter-dependent altho I am in favor of getting rid of all laws... Love, Palo
you are a sweetheart, abraxas
You are welcome, Sweetie. Some posters couldn't wait to hop on LP and talk smack about 4um, despite all the hospitality they received here over the past ten days. Since you are so sweet that you make even honey jealous, I'm sure you'll put in a good word for all the good folks who post here at 4um. Love, Ab xoxoxoxoxox
Thank you very much Abraxis for your kind loving words to me
I think that was prior to all the Ron Paul fans getting banned. We had some great threads then that were so much fun. The partisan bickering, insults and personal attacks on LP get rather tiresome, not to mention all the banning for infractions that are within the forum's stated guidelines. That gets on my nerves too. Posters here will be happy to see you on a more regular basis, Palo, especially me. We chat often on LP, but I haven't been hanging out there too much even prior to this recent banning and shut down. All but one of the 4um posters always say the nicest things about you. Love, Ab xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
Hi abraxis but we both believed letting Obama and the Dems win in this past election so you understand my darling beloved friend
Let's not mistake society for government. Societies are able to get along until they outgrow pleasantness and invite government in. When govt outgrows its usefulness and becomes an unnecessary burden it's time to 86 it.
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.
Common sense and inherent nature? Come on. Say what you really mean. You believe in god because you believe in god and are too cowardly to ask why you actually believe it. You believe in mythology.
I agree with you but only government can enforce its repression with LAWS, prison if you don't obey with society, I think people who couldn't stand it just moved to the mountain forests NYC subway stations still have that posted up "NO spitting on subway platform" LOL I can't imagine moving because of a NO spitting ordinance
these spitters liberation freaks became the first Adirondack Guides
but of course it must be done non-violently I am totally non-violent It must be done ... how that actually occurs will depend greatly upon the authorities. My hunch is that the power brokers will not readily forfeit their thrones. I'd prefer a non-violent return to some semblance of true liberty. I'm willing to be violent.
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.
Violence is out of the question for me
We know you are. You said something about slitting jews throats in the past. Also talked about nuking Israel.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
hi sweetie
Whah do u hate Amurka? Don't I remember it well. "The Day of the Bushbot". It sounds like a bad Sci-Fi film from the 1950's. Still I had fun pissing them off.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Burger King is too good for them.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Palo, you're so sweet and loving that it's impossible to ignore. I wish that the world truly operated in the manner that you would prefer. A K A Stone is on my BOZO list for being a Zio-NAZI apologist, please don't make apologies for me to this ignorant death squad supporter.
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.
Don't be too hasty OI ... they might offer swine burgers ... all that's necessary is to cook em and put em on a bun !
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.
I was there ... and I would say that our society threw off self-discipline and began to really distrust authority (repression) ... all of those lone nut assassins running around surely traumatized us, then there were Liars in Chief LBJ and Richard Nixon, ... now that I've gotten this far ... what is it that we seem to be so proud of about this country anyways ?
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.
Ezekiel Emanuel is the brother of White House Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel. They are both dedicated Zionists and hold Israeli passports. In a sane America, unfettered by Illuminated traitors and fifth columnists in its federal structure, they could not hold high office in the government of the United States. We no longer live in a sane America. We must not allow these infiltrated fifth columnists to destroy us. In order to take back this country from the Rockefeller/Rothchild communists and the British Oligarch/Bush Nazis, ordinary citizens must first gain the control and loyalty of local government and law enforcement. Local citizens need to look into establishing city, town, and county Attorney General offices, as advocated recently by Harvard trained attorney Carl Person in a series of radio interviews with Don Nicoloff. A city or county Attorney General would advocate of behalf of CITIZENS interests and rights, rather than the current situation where corrupt state and federal interests are perpetuated and protected under the guise or representing 'the people'. None of this will matter, however, if large numbers of people don't QUICKLY wake up to the LETHAL dangers posed by taking that bio-weaponized Swine flu poison this Fall. Sarah Palin Versus Ezekiel Emanuel "Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich aren't debating the moral philosophy of John Rawls, whose formulations Emanuel borrows." -Zeke Emanuel, The Death Panels, And Illogic In Politics by Marc Ambender, The Atlantic The Hegelian Dialectic is the ideological blueprint for manipulating people into fighting over issues. Skillful use of Hegelian tactics is a requirement for all modern politicians. The ultimate goal of every major political player in the game right now is to weaken both sides of every argument, so that a "middle ground" for the "common good" can be formed between them. This is the simple formula for tricking the world into accepting a totalitarian central government. It's happening in every country on the planet. When Betsy McCaughey published her article called "Deadly Doctors," she sure opened a big can of political worms. She identified the philosophy of Obama's new health advisor, Ezekiel Emanuel as "communitarianism." "Emanuel, however, believes that "communitarianism" should guide decisions on who gets care. He says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens . . . An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia" (Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec. '96). " (Betsy McCaughey, founder of the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths and a former New York lieutenant governor writing in "Deadly Doctors" about Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, Obama's health policy advisor and brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel) The problem is, the gods of globalism are still not ready to explain their new philosophy to the American people. Americans are much more effective if they continue to believe their sides still exist and keep the great political divides alive. Awareness of the emerging synthesis of all ideologies (called communitarianism) is reserved for insiders. To become an insider one must agree to go along with the big lie, for as long as the lie remains necessary. Once the world has completely adopted supremacy of communitarian law, the truth about the system won't matter much, because the communitarian police will have community enforcement authority over every individual in the world. The American public is just not ready to be told the truth about the real philosophy driving all new changes to US law. Citizens age 50 and beyond may never be told. Communitarians insist all nations must be eliminated and that would upset the people who still think the US Constitution and their state constitutions are valid legal contracts. So the former Lt governor of the state of New York provided way more information than the Americans need to know. Something radical had to be done quickly to drive the topic back into obscurity. Just as hundreds of Americans started asking what the heck communitarianism is, the global scriptwriters made major changes to the book. Enter Sarah Palin, stage right. On the surface it certainly appears that Sarah Palin and Barack Obama's Health advisor, Ezekiel Emanuel, are on "opposite" sides. Sarah clearly represents the fundamentalist Christian Republican Right, while Obama and Zeke obviously represent the open-minded non-denominational Democratic Left. Their millions of followers on both sides are totally convinced the "other" side are the bad guys and their own side is the good guys. This belief in their superior side means they never have to study the other side, or God forbid, to wonder what the outcome of all this fighting may be. Like mad dogs trained to fight in the arena, true believers go for the jugular veins of their opponents without a second thought as to why. Sarah Palin proved her worth to the communitarians when she entered the national political scene as John McCains' Republican running mate. They made her a star in the best horror soap opera ever written. It might look like they plan to kill her off, but rest assured, they'll bring her back whenever they need her to keep the story line alive. And right now, they need her. Upon entering the staged presidential campaign in a whirlwind of exposure, Palin made an easy target of herself and successfully fueled the inflated egos of every deluded Republican and Democrat in the country. All it took to keep (nonexistent) American attention away from any possible awareness of Obama's communitarian philosophy was to bring a superstar like Palin into the campaign. And all it took to steer (possible) attention away from Emanuel's exposed communitarian philosophy was to bring Palin into the "debate." "His views aren't limited to this one [the Lancet ] article. In 1996, he wrote a short article for the Hastings Center, in which he expounded upon the role that communitarianism might play in healthcare. Dr Emanuel's bio-ethical views are heavily fueled by adherence to this philosophy of communitarianism. Briefly put, communitarianism is a fairly new political philosophy that emphasizes the role of the community in defining and shaping individuals. Communitarianism focuses on the need to balance individual rights and interests with that of the community as a whole, and that individual people (or citizens) are shaped by the cultures and values of their communities." www.politicalevidence.com...-man-ezekiel-emanuel.html Now the debate is between the most uneducated politician on the national scene and the "esteemed" bioethics professor who cares about people. Their most dumbed down followers argue over who's the nicer, more credentialed player. Communitarian agents scour the Internet forums and steer any discussion of communitarianism back to outdated (and now discarded) left and right theories. The substance of the debate never became centered on the actual and verifiable philosophy that drives the National Healthcare agenda. The only political argument allowed is between the left and the right (just as the only religious debate allowed is between the Christians and the Muslims). These phony, misleading debates are led by second grade bullies who won't acknowledge communitarianism until their teachers make them write it a hundred times on the blackboard. When the American followers are finally told that communitarianism is their new political and justice system, their assigned Borg leaders will make sure everyone reaches consensus and agrees that it's a "good" thing. Hegelians don't care what the issues are. Neither do they care which "side" they are perceived to be on. Their role is to be a barrier to any authentic political discourse that may arise from thinking people. Hegelians do not think for themselves, they follow orders. They repeat words that have no meaning to them, throw around words they cannot define and have no interest in defining. When asked directly what they mean by a particular word, they always respond with "what do you mean what do I mean?" as if you're just too stupid to be answered. Most followers haven't got the first clue what sustainability, livability, health and safety, and quality of life means. They build "good communities" and only stupid people ask them what they mean by good. Appealing mainly to the egotistical and self-centered, the Hegelians promote the idea that they and their followers are superior to the common man in every way. Born again Hegelians may not be able to tell us who they follow, but they will always insist their ideas are more "enlightened" than common folks. Over educated, upper academic Hegelians believe God told Hegel the only reasonable future society is a friendly, caring, global police state. Uneducated Hegelians don't even know they're Hegelians. All unenlightened sheep are to be kept locked inside very publicized dialectical conflicts of opposites. Only the unseen, enlightened few understand the actual goal of all the conflicts. The most useful idiots are the ones who believe their side is the side that cares oh so much more about "people" than the other side. Completely brainwashed Hegelian thinkers go so far as to believe they are born smarter than the other side, with many convinced they were chosen by God himself to rule over all of mankind, forever. Taught to use any stupid argument at their disposal that enrages their assigned opposite "side," their job is to fuel established conflicts and say anything they want, as long as it keeps the masses distracted. The more outrageous their behaviors, the more outrageous the response is from their gullible public followers. This is why hateful slurs, mocking, sneering, racial insults, un-humorous "jokes," accusations, slander and Godlike condemnations are such a big part of our national political discourse. Like Hegel taught the leaders of the emerging supranational system, ideological conflicts that grow into violent clashes between huge groups of people are the best way to "help" save the world. Follower's on both sides of every conflict use the same, tired arguments because both sides follow the same Hegelian playbook. To the Man, Straw Man, Wag the Dog or fists and guns... they do whatever it takes. It's not an accident that every rebuttal I get to my articles on communitarianism insist it's an insignificant term that means nothing. I actually just got new comments on my blog that explained the "difference" between liberals and socialists, and anonymous never mentioned the word communitarian once! The debate between communitarianism and US constitutional law will never reach the public until it's completely over. First we all have to come together for a purpose greater than self. Then we can all rise together in perfect harmony, or we can fall into the pits with the others who refuse to be "free." "Clinton said Obama's election was the first one in which people were "self-consciously communitarian - understanding we are going to rise and fall together."" www.pittnews.com/node/19708 Niki Raapana www.pointofview.net/site/...d=6776&printer_friendly=1 www.nas.org/postings/how_...nitarian-bibliography.htm www.cpn.org/tools/dictionary/communitarian.html nord.twu.net/acl/commquotes.html www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communitarian/niki.htm Another group who are a danger to America and Christians world wide Lubavitchers
as I understand it, before USA was born it was considered people had to be ruled by a king we were an example to the world And always in USA, people came here from countries which fought with their neighbor I once witnessed this personally, my friend married a guy from India I read somewhere that the great wealth of the USA (other countries are so envious about it) Love, Palo
http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=105367 Allow me to open your eyes about dem meskins whose wants to kill yo white a$$.
Thank you very much noone222 for your kind loving words to me
LOL your post made me bust out gigglin'
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#30. To: Artisan (#27)
But God exists, He created you ...
#31. To: buckeroo (#29)
You aren't forgiven.
#32. To: 4 givan 1 (#31)
Frankly buckeroo, that is not your call.
#33. To: buckeroo (#30)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#34. To: Artisan (#33)
#35. To: buckeroo (#34)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#36. To: buckeroo (#32)
#37. To: Artisan (#35)
As far as God, He does not have to show himself outright.
#38. To: Artisan (#35)
#39. To: Sarajevo (#11)
Love, Palo
#40. To: palo verde (#0)
#41. To: buckeroo (#38)
I don't believe in government.
#42. To: TooConservative (#40)
palo, it's Saturday morning and LP is still down.
Go fix it. Now.
I am no techie I am amazed and proud of myself that I can swipe my card at supermarket
smooooch
Love, Palo
so please forgive all errors in posting
#43. To: palo verde, all (#42)
#44. To: noone222 (#41)
Gimme anarchy any day. Who needs an over funded enemy (Govt) when "every man for himself" is possible
plus people like helping each other out
maybe the ideal is absolute minimum of government
#45. To: abraxas (#43)
LP is up and running.
thank you for letting me know
I guess I should go post it as article on 4um now
my mind is a little ferblungit (sp?)
Yiddish for "not working right"
from being up all night
I can't stop making typos
but I will try to post it
Love, Palo
#46. To: palo verde (#45)
thank you for letting me know
#47. To: abraxas (#46)
I appreciate them
I will wait to return to LP
I am comfortable here right now
maybe tomorrow morning I will click on LP
I think after this two weeks when we (from LP) were all over here
it is clear we are sister forums
most LP posters seemed happy and comfortable here
some decided to stay, they like it better than LP
(you got some of our top posters)
some said now they want to be on both forums
and I bet there were lurkers from LP too
both forums have virtues
4um is a little quieter and more intimate
I have been so happy posting here
I totally enjoyed the change, and getting to know all your posters who I didn't already know
also some of the threads were so funnnnny to read
everyone's sense of humor kicked in big time
I had a lot of fun reading those threads
maybe smaller forums are more conducive to fun
I can't remember last time we had fun thread on LP
Love, Palo
#48. To: palo verde (#47)
maybe smaller forums are more conducive to fun I can't remember last time we had fun thread on LP Love, Palo
#49. To: abraxas (#48)
I have too much tenderness for some of the posters on LP to want to leave it now
there is one poster, I can't remember his name, I never hear from him except when he posts an article about a wondrous event
which will take place in the sky that night
like a very special eclipse
He posts his article, pings me to it, and I never hear from him again
he doesn't even go on his own thread
but I am so touched he thinks about me
also I love to tease byeltsin
I am very fond of him
plus there were posters who tortured me to death when I was posting Ron Paul articles all the time before the primaries
but when Sarah Palin came along, we both worked closely for her
(and to prevent Obama from winning White House)
I once read in a French novel, the author said
"when 2 countries have been to war with each other, they become best friends afterwards"
maybe this is true?
it certainly is true with the posters who made war on me when I was for Ron Paul
plus they were mad at me because I don't support the war on terror or any of the wars
would be very dangerous to our country
we worked as hard as we could to save our country
and we love each other now
(I understand most 3rd party posters don't believe it makes any difference who won this past election,
maybe only he and I did ?)
that for the time being LP remains my home
but no one knows what the future holds
LP could plotz, and we'd all make 4um our new home
I had a totally lovely experience here this past two weeks
I am so grateful
I love you
Palo
#50. To: palo verde (#44)
we are all inter-dependent plus people like helping each other out
#51. To: Artisan (#33)
in high school we spent an entire semester going over scientific 'PROOFS FOR GOD'S EXISTANCE'. Though it was not necessary and was a waste of time. common sense and your inherent nature know that you were created by a supreme being. to claim otherwise is contrary to your conscience.
#52. To: noone222 (#50)
When govt outgrows its usefulness and becomes an unnecessary burden it's time to 86 it.
but of course it must be done non-violently
I am totally non-violent
society can be repressive too
a lot of the '60s was about throwing off the repression of society
I'm guessing the '50s was so conformist, it caused a reaction...
LOL I once read a book about the Adirondacks, those are the mountains in NY State
she interviewed some of the earliest settlers there, they said they moved there from NYC
because they couldn't stand the law "NO spitting on sidewalk!"
Love, Palo
but those were different times
they wanted the right to spit when and where they liked
#53. To: noone222, All (#52)
it shows what a future there is in spitting
#54. To: palo verde (#52)
I agree with you
#55. To: noone222 (#54)
furthermore after Gandhi and Martin Luther King who showed the new way
I don't believe violence will work
it belongs to the past, its time is over...
#56. To: noone222, palo verde (#54)
I'm willing to be violent.
#57. To: A K A Stone (#56)
people say everything under the sun when they are seriously pissed off
I don't believe noone222 means those things
I try to not post my emotions
but I got so enraged at Obama admin bringing us fascism
that I posted "they can go to hell"
but in truth I don't want them in hell, I just want them out of power
and working at Burger King
Love, Palo
#58. To: Hayek Fan (#9)
According to both republicrats and democans both, dissent is unpatriotic. You should have been posting on LP and/or TOS in 2001-2002. If you weren't licking the boots of George Bush and calling for the nuclear annihilation of every country that "stood in our way" in the middle east then you were not only unpatriotic, but also a commie, a traitor, seditious, anti-American, a leftist, and many others I can't think of at the moment.
#59. To: palo verde (#57)
I try to not post my emotions but I got so enraged at Obama admin bringing us fascism that I posted "they can go to hell" but in truth I don't want them in hell, I just want them out of power and working at Burger King
#60. To: palo verde (#57)
#61. To: Original_Intent (#59)
Burger King is too good for them.
#62. To: palo verde (#52)
a lot of the '60s was about throwing off the repression of society I'm guessing the '50s was so conformist, it caused a reaction...
#63. To: noone222 (#62)
#64. To: noone222 (#62)
...what is it that we seem to be so proud of about this country anyways ?
that they could not rule themselves
we in USA demonstrated people do not need a king, we can rule ourselves
(Greece and Turkey, India and Pakistan, etc. etc.)
but here in USA, everyone no matter which country they came from, co-mingles on street corners, churches, MacDonalds, supermarkets, etc
we were all sitting on couch in front of fireplace my second year in Tucson
He was Hindu and he started to work himself up in a rage about Muslims
and then all of sudden, like waking from a dream, he said
"hey I am in USA I don't have to do that anymore"
and let his grievances go
but it comes from this, here everyone co-mingles and gets along
#65. To: palo verde, all (#64)
I read somewhere that the great wealth of the USA (other countries are so envious about it) but it comes from this, here everyone co-mingles and gets along
My rabbi is my dentist.
Gots to keep the money in the family.
#66. To: noone222 (#60)
Palo, you're so sweet and loving that it's impossible to ignore. I wish that the world truly operated in the manner that you would prefer.
I appreciate them
God bless you darling
Love, Palo 
#67. To: Original_Intent (#59)
smooooch
Love, Palo
#68. To: palo verde (#67)
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