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Title: Mullen worried over public support for Afghan war
Source: AP
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090823 ... _go_ca_st_pe/us_us_afghanistan
Published: Aug 23, 2009
Author: RICHARD LARDNER
Post Date: 2009-08-23 09:54:54 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 474
Comments: 33

WASHINGTON – The U.S. military's top uniformed officer expressed concern Sunday about eroding public support for the war in Afghanistan and said the country remains vulnerable to being taken over again by extremist forces.

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said President Barack Obama's new strategy for defeating the Taliban and al-Qaida was a work in progress as more U.S. troops are put in place.

In broadcast interviews, Mullen wouldn't say whether more American forces troops would be needed. A large number of civilian experts is also required to help bring stability to Afghanistan's government and develop the economy.

The Obama administration is awaiting an assessment about the situation from the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan. That report is expected in about two weeks.

Just over 50 percent of respondents to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released this past week said the war in Afghanistan is not worth fighting.

Mullen, a Vietnam veteran, said he's aware that public support for the war is critical. "Certainly the numbers are of concern," he said. But, he added, "this is the war we're in."

Three years ago, the U.S. had about 20,000 forces in the country. Today, it has triple that, on the way to 68,000 by year's end when all the extra 17,000 troops that Obama announced in March are to be in place. An additional 4,000 troops are arriving to help train Afghan forces.

The new strategy is intended to disrupt and defeat al-Qaida, the Taliban and its extremist allies. These forces have become much stronger and use safe havens in Pakistan to hide and plan attacks, he said.

"I recognize that we've been there over eight years," Mullen said. "This is the first time we've ever really resourced a strategy on the civilian and military side."

Arizona Sen. John McCain, the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said he wants the military leadership in Afghanistan to use the same aggressive approach that Gen. David Petraeus used successfully in Iraq.

He said the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, should say exactly how many troops he needs in Afghanistan, let the Congress debate it and Obama would make the ultimate decision.

Troops in Afghanistan should "clear and hold" an environment for people so that economic and political progress can be made, he said. McCain said he worries McChrystal will be pressured to ask for lower troop totals than he needs.

"I don't think it's necessarily from the president," he said. "I think it's from the people around him and others and that I think don't want to see a significant increase in our troops' presence there."

On the question of what it will take to turn the tide in Afghanistan, McCain said: "I think within a year to 18 months you could start to see progress."

McCain acknowledged that public opinion on Afghanistan is slipping. But he said that opinion could be reversed.

"I think you need to see a reversal of these very alarming and disturbing trends on attacks, casualties, areas of the country that the Taliban has increased control of."

Mullen appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press" while McCain's interview Friday with ABC's "This Week" was aired Sunday.

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#1. To: All (#0)

It sounds like it might be time for another false flag operation in order to shore up support. I wonder how many Americans the two-party fraud controlled federal government will murder this time.

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-23   9:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Hayek Fan (#1)

Mullen need not worry, 130 million Americans voted for more war.

All Mullen and the troops need are more money and enemies willing to die.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-23   9:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#2)

Mullen need not worry, 130 million Americans voted for more war.

All Mullen and the troops need are more money and enemies willing to die.

You have a point. I've often said that the American people will vote for one side or the other of the two-party fraud regardless of what they do. Still, I foresee a false flag operations.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-23   10:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Hayek Fan (#0)

Does anyone know how members of the military are considered in the nation's employment numbers? Are they considered as being employed?

Disgusted  posted on  2009-08-23   10:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Hayek Fan (#3)

Still, I foresee a false flag operations.

Possible.

I see no need for one presently. The military is floating in money, they are ensconced in the Middle East, everyone getting promotions, times could not be better.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-23   10:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Disgusted (#4)

Does anyone know how members of the military are considered in the nation's employment numbers? Are they considered as being employed?

I would imagine that all government workers are considered as being employed.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-23   10:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Hayek Fan, Cynicom (#1)

recall Biden's warning of a crisis for Obama?

It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government~Thomas Paine

christine  posted on  2009-08-23   10:10:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#7)

recall Biden's warning of a crisis for Obama?

Yes...

It would have to be huge to over shadow the current turmoil in the country.

Huge.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-23   10:12:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#7)

recall Biden's warning of a crisis for Obama?

I remember. The two-party fraud has no problems murdering as many Americans as they need to in order to further their agenda.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-23   10:18:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#2)

Mullen need not worry, 130 million Americans voted for more war.

All Mullen and the troops need are more money and enemies willing to die.

Americans are about to get all the war they've ever dreamed of.

A big order of bunker busters is being readied for shipment in a couple of months to our little helpers, "the only democracy in the Middle East." Provocations are well underway across the border with Pakistan to further destablise that country.

As you can see, everything is going according to plan, and we're well on the way to WWIII. All we need to add to this mix is an increasingly estranged Russia and China.

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randge  posted on  2009-08-23   10:19:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: randge (#10)

A big order of bunker busters is being readied for shipment in a couple of months to our little helpers, "the only democracy in the Middle East." Provocations are well underway across the border with Pakistan to further destablise that country.

have you a link for this? i missed it.

It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government~Thomas Paine

christine  posted on  2009-08-23   10:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#2)

Mullen need not worry, 130 million Americans voted for more war

Exactly.

And anyway, the sheeple are now distracted from the Amerisrael war(s) by healthcare town hall meetings.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-08-23   10:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: randge (#10) (Edited)

As you can see, everything is going according to plan,

Indeed.

This is an illustration of how American voters have become programmed sheep.

In 1940 Roosevelt had millions of unemployed, many were hungry, war was brewing in Europe, BUT, FDR had the decency while running for a new term as President to PROMISE us that American boys would NEVER be sent to fight in foreign wars.

With 20 million unemployed and people hungry, the voters returned him to office because of their fear and hatred of war. The war started in 1941 and FDR had lied.

Now look at Obomawicz and McKooK in the past election. They BOTH guaranteed more endless war, and 139 million sheep voted with enthusiasm.

Now tell me we are not programmed.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-23   11:40:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#13) (Edited)

Now look at Obomawicz and McKooK in the past election.

Actually obama promised to bring them home, iirc in 6 months.

I wonder how well that timetable is progressing... Surely he wouldn't lie about that.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-08-23   11:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: PSUSA (#14)

Paul was the only man to promise to bring all the troops home and he was laffed out of the race.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-23   11:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: wbales (#12)

When I hear of Americans begging for "reform" in government, it makes me sick.

They need to learn the definitions of ...ERADICATE and ELIMINATE.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-23   11:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#16)

Here is a good one:

Big O to the Obots: "I shall CLOSE Guantanamo!!"

Obots: "Yeah. Rah."

Now, Big O is MERELY MOVING Guantanamo.

Obots make like crickets.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-08-23   12:32:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#16)

When I hear of Americans begging for "reform" in government,

They be stalwart viewers of MSNBC and Fox: the respective DNC and RNC media outlets of the same propaganda machine.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-08-23   12:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: christine (#11)

have you a link for this? i missed it.

I heard this from Webster Tarpley, and as usual, he was on target with the facts. It didn't take much time to unearth this in a search. Here's UPI:

U.S. fast-tracks new bunker-buster bomb

Published: Aug. 17, 2009 at 11:38 AM

WASHINGTON, Aug. 17 (UPI) -- Amid continuing tension over political upheaval in Iran, the U.S. Defense Department says it wants to accelerate production of a 30,000-pound "ultra-large bunker-buster" bomb designed to destroy deeply buried installations.

The Pentagon has requested Congress to provide the necessary funding to ensure that the Massive Ordnance Penetrator, a next-generation bomb known as MOP and built by Boeing, would be ready by July 2010, spokesman Bryan Whitman said on Aug. 3.

The non-nuclear weapon will be the biggest conventional bomb the United States has ever deployed. It carries 5,300 pounds of high explosive inside a 25.5-foot bomb casing of hardened steel and would be delivered by the radar-evading Northrop Grumman B-2 stealth bomber. The B-2 can carry two of the bombs.

www.upi.com/Security_Indu...S-fast-tracks-new-bunker- buster-bomb/UPI-64691250523534//

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randge  posted on  2009-08-23   12:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: randge (#19)

hmmmm..even under Obama. /s

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christine  posted on  2009-08-23   12:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#11)

Emerging ThreatsView archive | RSS Feed Lebanese fears of Israeli strike swell

BEIRUT, Lebanon, Aug. 20 (UPI) -- Reports that Israel has ordered 100 "bunker buster" bombs from the United States has caused tremors of concern in Lebanon that the weapons are for use against Hezbollah in the event of war between Iran and the Jewish state.

The Jerusalem Post reported Aug. 3 that the Israeli Defense Ministry ordered the laser-guided Joint Direct Attack Munition kits earlier this summer.

The kits are fitted onto conventional bombs to transform them into precision- guided weapons that are highly accurate and capable of destroying bunkers built deep underground.

Since Hezbollah's 2006 war with Israel, the Iranian-backed Shiite movement has rebuilt an elaborate network of bunkers in South Lebanon and constructed a whole new defensive line north of the Litani River.

www.upi.com/Emerging_Thre...-fears-of-Israeli-strike- swell/UPI-55251250785116/

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randge  posted on  2009-08-23   12:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: randge, McCarthy, Os, *Leftwing Loon Alert* (#21)

McCarthy has told me he's willing to go to Afghanistan now that Obama is the boss man. I'm sure some of the other Os will likewise find a new patriotism now that Bush is off center stage.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-23   12:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull, The Weasel, Ferret Mike (#22)

McCarthy has told me he's willing to go to Afghanistan now that Obama is the boss man.

They started a new unit especially for the weasel

"America without her freedoms, is like a body without a soul" - Adam Kokesh

Flintlock  posted on  2009-08-23   19:36:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#15)

Paul was the only man to promise to bring all the troops home and he was laffed out of the race.

I can't believe you said that cynicom. I know it was just a slip of the finger. But there were other third party candidates our there that supported that. Oh and Dennis the midget did too.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-08-23   19:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Hayek Fan (#0)

Afghanistan and said the country remains vulnerable to being taken over again by extremist forces.

As in people like General Ray Ordinio (sp), a nut case that fight in Iraq the same way the US fought the Indian wars in the 1880's?

Or maybe like Eric Prince of Blackwater fame (shame) who is ona crusade to kill all the antichrist Muslims?

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-08-23   19:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Hayek Fan (#0)

But, he added, "this is the war we're in."

WOW, what insight - no wonder he is a General in the US army.

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tom007  posted on  2009-08-23   19:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#13)

Now tell me we are not programmed.

We are not programmed. We are not programmed. We are not programmed. We are not programmed. We are not programmed. We are not programmed. We are not programmed.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-08-23   19:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#24)

I recall Paul as being the only one of the talking heads on national TV to propose such.

The nite McKooK laffed Paul off stage was too much. I stopped watching the charade.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-23   19:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: randge (#19)

It carries 5,300 pounds of high explosive inside a 25.5-foot bomb casing of hardened steel and would be delivered by the radar-evading Northrop Grumman B-2 stealth bomber. The B-2 can carry two of the bombs.

Its the barrel of a 105mm howitzer packed with time delayed high explosives.

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tom007  posted on  2009-08-23   19:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: tom007 (#27)

Tom...

Watching the past "election" charade, I was not able to understand how anyone over 30 years old could watch the campaign on TV and not realize the entire operation was a farce. Yet 130 million patriotic Americans turned out and did their duty.

A black man was elected, one that took in $700 million without asking, and still the sheep see nothing amiss.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-23   19:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: tom007 (#29)

Speaking of the reality of all this insanity - how's Adam doing?

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-23   20:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lod (#31)

He can walk a few hundred yards with two canes. He has those new prosethic (sp) hands that allows him to do a few things. Last I heard he has had thirtytwo surguries.

I will make a rough guess that when it is all accounted for he will cost the taxpayer five million or so.

His parents will likely die caring for him, and their lives have been altered beyond comprehension.

But we did bring peace to Iraq so it is Mission Accomplished.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-08-23   20:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Flintlock, McCarthy (#23)

THAT-IS-FUNNY!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-24   10:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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