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Title: Israel seeks annual U.N. holocaust memorial day
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URL Source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.as ... C_0_-213135-1&sec=Worldupdates
Published: Aug 21, 2005
Author: Bill Rigby
Post Date: 2005-08-21 03:53:31 by Zoroaster
Keywords: holocaust, memorial, Israel
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World Updates August 19, 2005 Israel seeks annual U.N. holocaust memorial day By Bill Rigby UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Israel is urging the United Nations to establish an annual international holocaust memorial day, a top Israeli diplomat said on Thursday. An Israeli draft resolution, which it hopes will be adopted by the 191-member General Assembly during its 60th session opening next month, proposes Jan. 27 as a day to commemorate holocaust victims, marking the day in 1945 when Russian troops liberated Auschwitz, the largest Nazi death camp. More than 30 European countries support Israel's plan, British Deputy Ambassador Adam Thomson said in a letter to U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan and Assembly President Jean Ping made public on Thursday. "It is a universal resolution," said Israeli Deputy U.N. Ambassador Daniel Carmon in an interview. "A nonpolitical remembrance of the most atrocious event that happened in the last century -- it should be acknowledged by the United Nations." Six million Jews were exterminated in Nazi camps and millions of others including Poles, homosexuals, Soviet prisoners and Gypsies perished or were used as slave labor in the camps. The United Nations held a special session earlier this year to mark the 60th anniversary of the end of the holocaust. But Israel would like to see the world body devote more resources to the subject, including worldwide education programs, encouraging the preservation of Nazi camps and rejecting denials the holocaust took place. Last Jan. 27, more than 40 world leaders gathered at Auschwitz to mark its liberation, but Israel wants the day to become a regular commemoration. Israel holds its own holocaust remembrance day, Yom Hashoah, in either April or May, but the event has not taken on international prominence. The 28-member committee which sets the Assembly's agenda is to discuss Israel's resolution in the next few weeks, and it is widely expected that the Assembly will vote on the proposal during its next year-long session.
Poster Comment: Will god's darlings seek to add the Holocaust as the third book of the Christian Bible? Will the legendary 6-million Jewish martyrs join Christ on the Cross?
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#1. To: Zoroaster, Eoghan, 1776, robin, Zipporah (#0)
Wow. The article mentioned other besides the chosen. And, the Six million number remains alive and kicking. Still there is confusion here: Start out with 6 million. The Auschwitz Plaque originally said 4 million but the Zionist Holocuast revisioners changed that to 1.5 million--a difference of 2.5 million. And yet and, apparently due to some kind of new math, we still are left with-- TA DAH--6 million. Well, well, well... Anyway, why in the hell are American taxpayers footing the bill for a Holocaust museum/memorial in Washington, DC????? WHY was this museum/memorial built BEFORE an American WWII military memorial in Washington, DC??? How many Americans know: A) the number of dead in the "Holocaust" as opposed to B) the number of American military dead in WWII?? Oh, yes, someone, somewhere is setting our priorities for us. And how about an international day to remember those victims of Stalin's 20 million Holocaust or Mao's 30 million Holocaust. Why aren't there musuems/memorials in Wahsington, DC for those Holocausts??
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
This is NOT American history. It did NOT happen on American soil. It did NOT happen to Americans, maybe to some who immigrated here or to the relatives of some Americans. SO DID A GREAT MANY HORRIFIC EVENTS. By that standard we should have a Yugoslavian Holocaust Memorial Day. How about a Rwandan Holocaust Memorial Day? Or, an Armenian Holocaust Memorial Day? Or a White Russian Holocaust Memorial Day? Or a Holocaust Memorial Day for the 50 million murdered by Mao? Maybe a Memorial Day to the North Koreans starved to death by Kim Il Jong? Where do we stop? It all happened in the last century on another continent.
"Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't." - Mark Twain - Victory and Energy cartoon animations.
Local synagogues will all be converted to Holocaust Memorials if the AIPAC investigation hits critical mass...
If the pro-war Zionists are so keen about Israel, they should show true support and permanently emigrate. Then they can have a Memorial Day to their Holocaust every week. We know they won't have one for anyone else. They don't allow Christians, for example, to become Israeli citizens.
"Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't." - Mark Twain - Victory and Energy cartoon animations.
And that's supremely "democratic" for the only true "democracy" in the middle east. GAG, BARF, VOMIT
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
And that's supremely "democratic" for the only true "democracy" in the middle east. GAG, BARF, VOMIT I learned this at church from Messianic Jews, explaining the tough moral decision some must make who want Israeli citizenship. Some outright lie, then claim they converted afterwards. They said it was wrong, that they would never lie to become Israelis, but their disappointment was evident. So, how in the world, did the rabid pro-war Zionists hoodwink the Baptists?
"Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't." - Mark Twain - Victory and Energy cartoon animations.
Politics in the name of religion: somehow they've got these "Christian" idiots worshipping Israel. I guess the Zionists will next have them denouncing Jesus.
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
Or for a smaller but no less heinous atrocity, how about what the English did to the Boer? 27,000 died in concentration camps built for WOMEN AND CHILDREN. Never hear much about that one, do you? Here's a link that can help to fill y'all in. Oh yes, the lovely Brits. Tea, crumpets, and dead babies. It's just another day in the British Empire. Here's an excerpt for the page. "The Second War of Independence was fought from 1899 to 1902 when England laid her hands on the mineral riches of the Zuid-Afrikaansche Republiek (Transvaal) under the false pretence of protecting the rights of the foreigners who swarmed to the Transvaal gold fields. On the battlefield England failed to get the better of the Boers, and decided to stoop to a full-scale war against the Boer women and children, employing a holocaust to force the burghers to surrender."
Six million Jews were exterminated in Nazi camps and millions of others including Poles, homosexuals, Soviet prisoners and Gypsies perished or were used as slave labor in the camps.
#2. To: wbales (#1)
#3. To: robin (#2)
“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli
#4. To: Eoghan (#3)
#5. To: robin (#4)
They don't allow Christians, for example, to become Israeli citizens.
#6. To: wbales (#5)
They don't allow Christians, for example, to become Israeli citizens.
#7. To: robin (#6)
So, how in the world, did the rabid pro-war Zionists hoodwink the Baptists?
#8. To: wbales (#1)
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#9. To: Elliott Jackalope (#8)
Thanks for bringing this history to our attention. The Brits have always been good at propaganda and revisionist history, to be sure.
"Their only crime was that they stood between England and the gold of Transvaal."
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#10. To: robin (#9)
When I think of the number of times I was made to feel ashamed of my German heritage (for reasons all too very well known and retold a billion times a day), to see the tales of the Brits and what they did to the Boer should make everyone of English heritage hang their heads in shame. So, where is the apology from the Crown? Where is the restitution? Where is the justice? Oh, yes, I forgot, justice is a whore for sale to the highest bidder. Silly of me to forget... "Their only crime was that they stood between England and the gold of Transvaal."
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#11. To: Elliott Jackalope (#10)
When I think of the number of times I was made to feel ashamed of my German heritage (for reasons all too very well known and retold a billion times a day), to see the tales of the Brits and what they did to the Boer should make everyone of English heritage hang their heads in shame. So, where is the apology from the Crown? Where is the restitution? Where is the justice? Oh, yes, I forgot, justice is a whore for sale to the highest bidder. Silly of me to forget... "Their only crime was that they stood between England and the gold of Transvaal." I have heard many Americans speak of being made ashamed of, to the point of hiding, their German heritage; it makes me very angry. That the public schools choose to ignore the wonderful contributions Germans made in building this nation, speaks volumes. We really should explore the causes and histories of WWI and WWII all over again, without the propaganda. I'm about equal parts English, Scottish and German (plus a little Dutch), so I can be somewhat objective about the travails of the Boer. During WWII, Dutch women and children did not fair well at the hands of the Japanese in Indonesia either. Another untold history. Somehow this history ends up only English when it is told at all. Just one group in recent history has received reparations, and they continue to do so, given the enormous foreign aid we give to Israel every single year.
"Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't." - Mark Twain -
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#12. To: robin (#11)
All I know is that from here on out, whenever I hear about the "Holocaust" I'm going to start talking about the Boer women and children being put in concentration camps to die of starvation, their only crime being that they stood between bloody England and the gold of Transvaal. All anyone needs to do is to Google "boer concentration camps" and lots and lots of articles come up. Really, the whole story is so wild it's hard to believe. It's like England was trying to prove to the world, and for all time, that it would do anything to anyone anywhere anytime to get what it wanted, no matter how despicable, heinous, atrocious and loathsome the deed might be, so long as bloody England gets a few pounds of gold out of the deal. It helps to cast a whole new light on the way things worked out in the twentieth century.
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#13. To: Elliott Jackalope (#12)
They drove the Scots out of Scotland long before they got to the Boers. I read that in Communist China, this history of English aggression is called "Sheep ate people". Maybe we should each pick a holocaust to write about whenever the subject Holocaust comes up.
All I know is that from here on out, whenever I hear about the "Holocaust" I'm going to start talking about the Boer women and children being put in concentration camps to die of starvation, their only crime being that they stood between bloody England and the gold of Transvaal.
"Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't." - Mark Twain -
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#14. To: robin (#13)
I really, really like that idea. Everybody picks their favorite holocaust, keeps a short list of handy links or keywords for searching, and every time they hear about the "Holocaust"(TM), they can pipe up with tales from their favorite holocaust. Brilliant. Good thinking. Kudos. And anyone out there who wants to play along, feel free to jump right in! We've got Cambodia, Russia, Ukraine, and China up for grabs, and there's lots of other tales to tell as well. Everybody grab a partner and dance! It's time for the holocaust hoedown! Do a box step through Ukraine, a do-si-do to Cambodia, a dip into Transvaal, and back again to Siberia! Swing to the left, promenade!
Maybe we should each pick a holocaust to write about whenever the subject Holocaust comes up.
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#15. To: Elliott Jackalope, Diana, Eoghan, Bayonne, wbales (#14)
And anyone out there who wants to play along, feel free to jump right in! We've got Cambodia, Russia, Ukraine, and China up for grabs, and there's lots of other tales to tell as well. Everybody grab a partner and dance! It's time for the holocaust hoedown! Do a box step through Ukraine, a do-si-do to Cambodia, a dip into Transvaal, and back again to Siberia! Swing to the left, promenade! LOL! You make it sound like fun!
Everybody picks their favorite holocaust, keeps a short list of handy links or keywords for searching, and every time they hear about the "Holocaust"(TM), they can pipe up with tales from their favorite holocaust. Brilliant. Good thinking. Kudos.
"Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't." - Mark Twain -
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#16. To: robin (#15)
That's the idea. Make it fun, and laugh at them. Authority figures have no power when everybody is laughing at them...
LOL! You make it sound like fun!
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#17. To: Zoroaster (#0)
The "Jews" want to keep pushing a phony holocaust, that supposedly happened over 60 years ago, down people's throats, all the while they are engaging in a very real holocaust against Arabs and American military personnel today. Rachel Corrie was killed by these thugs in broad daylight and they, the "Jews" and their sympathizers, cheered with delight. God's vengeance upon these so-called "Jews" is on the horizon.
God is always good!
#18. To: all (#1)
Wow. The article mentioned other besides the chosen. And, the Six million number remains alive and kicking. -wbales Interesting how the article deliberately puts the suffering of Poles, Russians, etc in a secondary position to that of the jews. The sum of the suffering of multiple other groups does not equal the whole of the jews only. Strict rules apply as to what the jouralist can write. Unspoken rules. no numbers are quoted for any other group so people don't realize the depth of European suffering in WWII. Jewish suffering must be unique in order for only them to be entitled to money, special rights, and the power to monopolize control of the holocaust myth to advance their power. Goys must make concessions- the Holocaust entitles jews to powers that no other group can get. Under the cover of the holocaust suffering, jews are allowed to put the interests of their group above the majority and all other 'groups' in the US. Americans who do not accept this and demand that the interests of the majority be put above that of the jews (advanced by their hundreds of special interest groups and Israel) are portrayed as an implicit threat to the lives of all jews in the US. That's where the holocaust myth comes in. The behavior of the American who wants the interests of his majority group placed above those of the jewish group (represented by ADL, WJC, ZOA, etc) is smeared as a thought criminal via cultural Marxism dogma. The implication underlying the smear is that the behavior of that American is consistent with the behavior that led to the holocaust, and is therefore evil and the American is someone who supports behavior that can lead to another holocaust. Preventing another holocaust is of utmost importance and is used as an excuse to remove the rights and liberties of Americans... an excuse for anything the jews do, actually- never again will the euros do this to the jews... and all that. So, we see why the sacred 6 mil number cannot be revised. The higher the number, the more effective the power grab. In the statement, all of the 6,000,000 were 'exterminated', while the Euros and every other group 'perished' and were not necessarily killed. The goy groups just worked hard and died of miscellaneous causes. The jews were slave labor as well, but there is no mention that the Jews were also slave labor. The extermination of 6 mil is the only point Ams are suppose to take from prop articles like this. Saying Jews were slave labor as well challenges the myth, so it is avoided. It would weaken all the conditioning Americans are under, so strict rules are in place about how the holocaust can be portrayed and how the european suffering is minimized or avoided. This is a reason why the holocaust myth is propaganda- it is also totalitarian- there is only 1 story allowed. Any questioning that 1 allowed story is portrayed as criminal and extremist to protect the near universality of the myth. The myth was created to usurp power and almost every jew protects it so that power is always maximized.
" Six million Jews were exterminated in Nazi camps and millions of others including Poles, homosexuals, Soviet prisoners and Gypsies perished or were used as slave labor in the camps."
BOT mentality 'includes black-and-white thinking, extremism, irrational judgment, a lack of "normal" skepticism, idolization, and a host of other "disorders" that seem part and parcel for the Neocon'- Robert Parsons
#19. To: Bayonne (#18)
...and therefore any power base that could have generated with the knowledge that about 40 million Europeans perished (one way or another) never happened. There was no other group suffering to compete with the unchallenged power of the "Holocaust", used be even (or rather mostly) non-survivors among the Jewish community.
no numbers are quoted for any other group so people don't realize the depth of European suffering in WWII.
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#20. To: Zoroaster (#0)
The UN should respond by saying they will consider the subject AFTER Israel complies with the 65 UN resolutions against them and also the THIRTY resolutions vetoed by the United States during the period of September, 1972, to May, 1990 to protect Israel from council criticism: AS FOLLOWS, 1. ....condemned Israel's attack against Southern against southern Lebanon and Syria..." 2. ....affirmed the rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, statehood and equal protections..." 3. ...condemned Israel's air strikes and attacks in southern Lebanon and its murder of innocent civilians..." 4. ....called for self-determination of Palestinian people..." 5. ....deplored Israel's altering of the status of Jerusalem, which is recognized as an international city by most world nations and the United Nations..." 6. ....affirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people..." 7. ....endorsed self-determination for the Palestinian people..." 8. ....demanded Israel's withdrawal from the Golan Heights..." 9. ....condemned Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip and its refusal to abide by the Geneva convention protocols of civilized nations..." 10. ....condemned an Israeli soldier who shot eleven Moslem worshippers at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount near Al-Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem..." 11. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Lebanon..." 12. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Beirut..." 14. ....urged cutoff of economic aid to Israel if it refused to withdraw from its occupation of Lebanon..." 15. ....condemned continued Israeli settlements in occupied territories in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, denouncing them as an obstacle to peace..." 16. ....deplores Israel's brutal massacre of Arabs in Lebanon and urges its withdrawal..." 17. ....condemned Israeli brutality in southern Lebanon and denounced the Israeli 'Iron Fist' policy of repression...." 18. ....denounced Israel's violation of human rights in the occupied territories..." 19. ....deplored Israel's violence in southern Lebanon..." 20. ....deplored Israel's activities in occupied Arab East Jerusalem that threatened the sanctity of Muslim holy sites..." 21. ....condemned Israel's hijacking of a Libyan passenger airplane..." 22. ....deplored Israel's attacks against Lebanon and its measures and practices against the civilian population of Lebanon..." 23. ....called on Israel to abandon its policies against the Palestinian intifada that violated the rights of occupied Palestinians, to abide by the Fourth Geneva Conventions, and to formalize a leading role for the United Nations in future peace negotiations..." 24. ....urged Israel to accept back deported Palestinians, condemned Israel's shooting of civilians, called on Israel to uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention, and called for a peace settlement under UN auspices..." 25. ....condemned Israel's... incursion into Lebanon..." 26. ....deplored Israel's... commando raids on Lebanon..." 27. ....deplored Israel's repression of the Palestinian intifada and called on Israel to respect the human rights of the Palestinians..." 28. ....deplored Israel's violation of the human rights of the Palestinians..." 29. ....demanded that Israel return property confiscated from Palestinians during a tax protest and allow a fact-finding mission to observe Israel's crackdown on the Palestinian intifada..." 30. ...called for a fact-finding mission on abuses against Palestinians in Israeli-occupied lands..."-
But Israel would like to see the world body devote more resources to the subject, including worldwide education programs, encouraging the preservation of Nazi camps and rejecting denials the holocaust took place.
#21. To: robin (#19)
And since there are no other groups, Jews reap 100% of the victimhood power instead of sharing it with other groups. A characteristic of Jews as a group is that while they constantly work to increase there group power, they simultaneous work so that no other groups can challenge them. Say their was a strong group of European WWII survivors. The holocaust movement could be compared to the Euro group and thus exposed as a propaganda machine. They would be expected to conform to common, expected standards if other groups like their's existed. The uniqueness of the suffering would be diluted and they could lose the unquestioned right to place their group interest above that of the majority and other special interest groups. As an example, the ADL hate crime legislation that is currently making it's way thru Congress might be considered completely unacceptable because it places Jewish interests over that of all Americans. The way things are now, it will probably pass in the coming years. (BTW, in 1997, the ADl and numerous other Jewish groups were pushing what would become the Patriot Act because it served the interests of their group) They have a monopoly on global victimhood at this point. Thousands of Jewish groups throughout the world work toward this monopoly.
There was no other group suffering to compete with the unchallenged power of the "Holocaust"
BOT mentality 'includes black-and-white thinking, extremism, irrational judgment, a lack of "normal" skepticism, idolization, and a host of other "disorders" that seem part and parcel for the Neocon'- Robert Parsons
#22. To: Steppenwolf (#20)
To Amerisrael, apparently, there are two UNs and Amerisrael neither likes, appreciates nor listens to the one you're quoting. Excellent list, BTW.
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
#23. To: Bayonne, Eoghan (#21)
Unless we find a way to wake the sheeple. Good analysis. (BTW, in 1997, the ADL and numerous other Jewish groups were pushing what would become the Patriot Act because it served the interests of their group) Well, if they were also neo-commies it makes complete sense.
The uniqueness of the suffering would be diluted and they could lose the unquestioned right to place their group interest above that of the majority and other special interest groups. As an example, the ADL hate crime legislation that is currently making it's way thru Congress might be considered completely unacceptable because it places Jewish interests over that of all Americans. The way things are now, it will probably pass in the coming years.
"Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't." - Mark Twain -
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#24. To: Zoroaster (#0)
Okay, then they can tell us the total number killed in the camps & stand up as being only a minority of those victims. Maybe they will tell us what happened to the Jewish collaborators (Judenrat).
#25. To: Elliott Jackalope (#14)
Don't forget the Hungarian cha-cha-cha with Bela Kuhn...
And anyone out there who wants to play along, feel free to jump right in! We've got Cambodia, Russia, Ukraine, and China up for grabs, and there's lots of other tales to tell as well. Everybody grab a partner and dance! It's time for the holocaust hoedown! Do a box step through Ukraine, a do-si-do to Cambodia, a dip into Transvaal, and back again to Siberia! Swing to the left, promenade!
#26. To: SKYDRIFTER (#24)
hey, good to see you. :)
If you fall on the side that is pro-George and pro-war, you get your ass over to Iraq, and take the place of somebody who wants to come home.
#27. To: Lady X (#25)
And throw in the 1956 redux too.
Don't forget the Hungarian cha-cha-cha with Bela Kuhn...
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.
#28. To: Lady X (#25)
Dig on back in your history, Swing to the right, Promenade!
Don't forget the Hungarian cha-cha-cha with Bela Kuhn...
Be the biggest victim you can be!
Losing means you win, you know!
Grab a body, do-si-do!
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#29. To: Elliott Jackalope, Lady X (#28)
LOL! Okay, time to pick your partners. I'm having trouble making up my mind. I know you've chosen the Boers. What about you X?
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#30. To: robin (#29)
I'd suggest Ukraine. Look up Lazar Kaganovich, "The Wolf of the Kremlin" for lots of lovely details.
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#31. To: Elliott Jackalope, Diana (#30)
Diana might want the Ukraine, her German grandfather's family as I recall.
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