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Title: U.S. military says force in Afghanistan isn't big enough
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.mercurynews.com/nationworld/ci_13190040
Published: Aug 24, 2009
Author: Helene Cooper
Post Date: 2009-08-24 10:02:16 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 918
Comments: 34

BAGRAM, Afghanistan — Military commanders with the NATO mission in Afghanistan told President Barack Obama's chief envoy to the region this weekend that they did not have enough troops to do their job, pushed past their limit by Taliban rebels who operated across borders.

The commanders emphasized problems in southern Afghanistan, where Taliban insurgents continue to bombard towns and villages with rockets despite a new influx of U.S. troops, and in eastern Afghanistan, where the father-and-son-led Haqqani network of militants has become the main source of attacks against U.S. soldiers and their Afghan allies.

The possibility that more troops will be needed in Afghanistan presents the Obama administration with a new problem in dealing with a nearly 8-year-old war that has lost popularity at home, compounded by new questions over the credibility of the U.S.-backed Afghan government, which has just held an as-yet inconclusive presidential election beset by complaints of fraud.

The assessments about troop needs came as the top American commander in the region, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, has been working to complete a major war strategy review, and as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, described a worsening situation in Afghanistan despite the recent addition of 17,000 U.S. troops ordered by the Obama administration and the extra security efforts surrounding the presidential election.

"I think it is serious,

and it is deteriorating," Mullen said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union" program. "The Taliban insurgency has gotten better, more sophisticated, in their tactics."

He added that McChrystal was still completing his review and had not yet requested additional troops on top of the those added by Obama.

The U.S. commanders in Afghanistan spoke at length this weekend with Richard Holbrooke, Obama's special representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Over the past two days, Holbrooke visited all four regional military command centers in Afghanistan, and the message from all four followed similar lines:

While the additional American troops, along with smaller increases from other NATO alliance members, have had some benefit in the south, the numbers remain below what commanders say they need.

With the forces added by the Obama administration, the total number of American soldiers and Marines in Afghanistan is now about 57,000.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Actually, it's not small enough. It needs to be reduced to 0. We've no business being there or attacking anybody. If there are souls that want vengeance for 9/11/2001, then they should be directing their energy against Saudi Arabia. Everybody knows this now, there is no excuse of ignorance to be had.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-24   10:57:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: SonOfLiberty (#1)

If there are souls that want vengeance for 9/11/2001, then they should be directing their energy against Saudi Arabia.

I don't remember any "dancing Saudis" in New Jersey on 9/11.

But not all of the eye-witnesses to the 9-11 slaughter were so saddened. On September 11, five Israeli army veterans were arrested by the FBI after several witnesses saw them "dancing", "high-fiving", and "celebrating" as they took pictures of the World Trade Center disaster from across the river in New Jersey.

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-08-24   11:08:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Sam Houston (#3)

No, because most of them were aboard the aircraft that slammed into the buildings.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-24   11:11:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: SonOfLiberty (#4)

So, show us some proof that Saudis were on those planes.

randge  posted on  2009-08-24   11:19:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#5)

Wait. Let me guess. You think it was Israelis? Right?

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-24   11:21:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: SonOfLiberty (#6)

I don't "think" thing that I don't have strong reason to believe are so. From my perspective, the jury is still out on who exactly did what.

Let me repeat my request:

Show us some proof that Saudis were on those planes.

randge  posted on  2009-08-24   11:34:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: randge, SonOfLiberty, Original_Intent, Wudidiz (#7)

Let me repeat my request:

Show us some proof that Saudis were on those planes.

Saudis Plan To Sue US Over 911

Washington has named 15 Saudis among the 19 hijackers.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-08-24   11:53:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: TwentyTwelve, randge, SonOfLiberty, christine, Wudidiz, Lod, Jethro Tull, IndieTX, ratcat, all (#14)

Victims Lists, Passenger Manifests, and the Alleged Hijackers

Flight Manifests and Passenger Lists

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As the number of strange anomalies and coincidences on the morning of 9/11 pile on top of each other, a reasonable investigator would at some point start to use the sheer force of so many convenient improbabilities against the official narrative. Add to that pile of suspicion the unusually low number of passengers aboard each of the hijacked flights that morning. Flight 11 and Flight 175, both Boeing 767s with approximately 180 available seats, had 76 and 46 passengers respectively. Flight 77 and Flight 93, both Boeing 757s with approximately 200 available seats, had 50 and 26 passengers respectively.

What this 30% passenger occupancy essentially means is that on each of the flights that were hijacked that morning, every passenger on every plane had an entire row to themselves to lie down. Any savvy, experienced traveler knows that when flying a major airliner, on a non-stop cross-country trip, at a commuter friendly morning flight time from one major U.S. city to another, it is incredibly good luck to get a row of surrounding open seats. On the morning of 9/11, every passenger on every plane had, essentially, an open row to themselves. And on Flight 93 that went down in Shanksville, PA, there were 10 more rows than passengers. ... (continued at link)

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