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#1. To: christine (#0)

Not good, not good at all.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-24   13:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

First they came for the stainless banner.

Anti-racism is code for white genocide

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-08-24   14:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

Not good. Not good at all. Cops seemed to be decent folks this time around though.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-24   14:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#1)

It is not what "WE" want, it is what the government has already ordained.

Standing back and assessing this invasion, the question is, "Why does the government want these millions of barely civilized parasites".

For what reason??? Both "parties", left, right, whatever.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-24   14:25:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#0)

I used to say that you don't kick the dog because someone left the door open. When they act like this, it's past time to kick the dog.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-08-24   14:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#4)

For what reason??? Both "parties", left, right, whatever.

It boggles this humble mans mind. I'd bet if they were exposed to the elliment portrayed in the video on a daily basis they'd change their minds.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-08-24   14:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: phantom patriot. all (#6)

I actually found myself hoping for a tasing there.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-24   14:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#7)

I actually found myself hoping for a tasing there.

Too sensetive. Might get the mexis angry. We wouldn't want that oooohhhh nnnoooo.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-08-24   14:57:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#4)

A theory I've heard is that with a rapidly aging population, politicians see their tax base shrinking and their entitlement spending demands increasing. Since we're not having kids at the rate they deem acceptable, they're importing, so to speak, to keep the worker base up.

Valid? Maybe, or not, who knows? It is at least plausible.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-24   14:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#0)

In my neck of the woods the cops would have taken him in and beat the hell out of him.

Stupid people only understand getting beaten.

There's no place better thanTurtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-08-24   15:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: farmfriend. all (#3)

Cops seemed to be decent folks this time around though.

Agree. I watched it a second time to be sure that was HPD there.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-24   15:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: phantom patriot, Lod, All (#6)

There is but one sound reason I can accept as to why the government has allowed this invasion. Certainly we can all agree there are no Nobel Prize winners in the current influx, rather the vast majority are "consumers" of government handouts, one way or another.

Looking down the road, I see but ONE viable reason to allow in this rabble.

By comparison, the United States, Canada, and Russia have large land masses but small populations. Russia as a world power is in dire straits population wise because their Asian neighbors number in the billions.

Canada number two in size, is not a world power and is a basket case if they had to defend themselves. For that they depend on us.

Looking from Turkey Eastward thru China to the Pacific, we have untold BILLIONS of people. Billions.

The United States is in the Middle East militarily to stay. We lack one vital thing, boots on the ground. No war has ever been fought without masses of men on the ground, killing each other.

When push comes to shove, our "allies" will not fight, not a one. Look at our current stand in ME, we provide over 90 per cent of the boots on the ground.

With that in mind and a massive land war breaks out, we will need unlimited cannon fodder, millions. In WW2 we scraped the barrel, taking old men and anyone that could walk in.

I see unlimited cannon fodder available.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-24   15:08:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#12)

If we're going to have perpetual war, that makes as much sense as anything.

With that 'quality' of troop, we'd probably get our butts kicked even worse than we are now.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-24   15:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod (#13)

With that 'quality' of troop, we'd probably get our butts kicked even worse than we are now.

Yes.

With a nuclear standoff, we are at a very serious disadvantage.

The Asians can walk to war, recall the Golden Hordes rode ponies all the way to France. We are thousands of miles away.

Human life to Asian governments has always been of little interest. I read a few days ago that China alone could muster 20,000,000 men to battle in only a few months time.

Korea is a prime example. Chinese walked to war. A cheap cotton, padded uniform, a hat, a rifle and ammo and a small bag of rice, if thery were wounded, they were dead. Thousands froze to death.

We are about to engage in a war with which we have limited experience.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-24   15:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#14)

Actually, it's nukes that level the playing field for us in that situation. We (the U.S.) can split the core of the earth, what, 7 times or something with our nukes? 20 million man armies don't hold up well on a planet with a split core (nor do, I'm afraid, those who did split the core).

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-24   15:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: SonOfLiberty (#15)

Eisenhower and MacArthur wanted to use nukes from the opening bell of the Korean war, they were denied.

That left a ground war of attrition and we lost, a near stalemate land wise for nothing.

Ten years later we indulged in war on the Asian mainland and that time we lost big time. Once again nuclear was denied.

We now have an established pattern of accepting losing ground wars, that we did not and cannot win.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-24   15:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#16)

I think that a world level war against a 20 million man army with intents to wipe the nation off of the earth, would probably change some minds about nukes. Just a hunch.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-24   15:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-08-24   19:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#16)

Eisenhower ... wanted to use nukes from the opening bell of the Korean war

Cite?

Seems a strange thing for a president of Columbia University to demand.

A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're not talking real money

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2009-08-24   19:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: DeaconBenjamin (#19)

His published diary and NSC archives.

Stated very plainly.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-24   21:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: DeaconBenjamin (#19)

Cite?

Seems a strange thing for a president of Columbia University to demand.

Deacon...

Normally I do not do the students homework for them.

Excerpt...

"Somewhat ironically General Eisenhower, who happened to be in Washington for a routine physical examination, and who would inherit this situation some two years later, stopped at the Pentagon on 28 June.60 He later wrote in his diary that he was astonished by the complacency and indecisiveness he found. “My whole contention,” he went on in his diary, “was that an appeal to force cannot, by its nature, be a partial one. This appeal, having been made, for God’s sake, get ready! Do everything possible under the law to get us going. Remember in a fight (our side) can never be too strong. I urged action in a dozen different directions….........even if it finally came to the use of the A-bomb.......... (which God forbid).”61 General Ridgway, who was later to take over for MacArthur, made notes on the chewing out: “General Eisenhower dropped in…[and] stated in most vigorous language and with great emphasis his feelings that we ought at once to begin partial mobilization; perhaps reinforce our European forces by a division or two; publicly increase our security measures throughout the country; at once remove the limitation placed on MacArthur to operate south of the 38 th Parallel; even to consider the use of one or two atomic bombs in the Korea area, if suitable targets could be found"......

I might add what does Columbia U has to do with it?

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-24   22:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: DeaconBenjamin, Cynicom (#21)

Cite?

Ask ... and if you get his dander up with your lack of personal research skills ... you shall receive!!!

Phant2000  posted on  2009-08-24   22:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#21)

Thank you. Initially I found this information inconsistent with what I knew about Eisenhower; I guess there was more to him than I realized.

Also I am impressed that he conveyed his views to the Pentagon. I wonder if he spoke to Truman regarding this.

In 1948, Eisenhower became President of Columbia University.[38] In December 1950, he took leave from the university when he became the Supreme Commander of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), and given operational command of NATO forces in Europe.

A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're not talking real money

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2009-08-24   22:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: DeaconBenjamin (#23)

Deacon...

I apologize for being so abrupt.

I have tried to never ask anyone to cite their information. If I am ignorant of something, I state thus and ask if they might point me in the right direction.

For instance, you post mostly "finance/money" matters. Of which I am as ignorant as they come. Very often I have to spend time trying to reference what you and others are talking about.

Re Eisenhower...For past few weeks Ada has been posting articles that quote noted people as being against the use of A-bombs against the Japanese. Ike was one.

I did not question as to whether he said it at one time, but I did indicate to Ada that Ike was doing so, long after the fact, and that prior, that was NOT his opinion. Ada would not discuss it.

As for Columbia, I was aware of his position there, but Ike was neither an academic nor an intellectual, Columbia was merely a holding point until Baruch decided he should run for president.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-25   3:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#24)

No apologies necessary. I greatly appreciate the new information.

As for Columbia, I was aware of his position there, but Ike was neither an academic nor an intellectual,

Understood. Seeing as how that was where he was when North Korea invaded South Korea, I wonder how he justified -- in his mind -- his trip to the Pentagon to straighten them out.

Since nukes were not used in his administration in Korea, or even suggested, I wonder if his experiences as head of Nato caused him to to moderate his commitment to winning the war.

A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're not talking real money

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2009-08-25   7:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: DeaconBenjamin (#25) (Edited)

Understood. Seeing as how that was where he was when North Korea invaded South Korea, I wonder how he justified -- in his mind -- his trip to the Pentagon to straighten them out.

Since nukes were not used in his administration in Korea, or even suggested,

Deacon...

Unable to cite the military regulation but in the past ALL four star people theoretically remain on duty and available for consultation. In fact, it use to be that such people were kept up to date on all military matters as a courtesy and necessity.

That was true back then, now I dont know.

ON the contrary, nuclear use WAS INDEED considered during Ikes Presidency, mostly it was in the vein of veiled backdoor threats, just as Truman had done many times.

Historians are notorious for being biased, for lying, for distorting, for shaping and WORST OF ALL FOR OMITTING.

PS. I was in the Atomic bomb delivery business, in the Far East during Truman and Eisenhower.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-25   9:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#26)

Cool. I really appreciate your insights.

A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're not talking real money

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2009-08-25   19:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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