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Title: Swine Flu May Infect Half The U.S. Population This Year; May Cause 90,000 U.S. Deaths
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Bloomberg
URL Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a8_2nrwYD1kM
Published: Aug 25, 2009
Author: By Tom Randall and Alex Nussbaum
Post Date: 2009-08-25 00:36:12 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: Swine Flu, Media Hype, Made-In-A-Lab Flu
Views: 383
Comments: 36
Swine Flu May Cause 90,000 U.S. Deaths, Report Says (Update2) By Tom Randall and Alex Nussbaum http://simplybox.s3.amazonaws.com/baaea9452/94521251174861.jpg Aug. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Swine flu may infect half the U.S. population this year, hospitalize 1.8 million patients and lead to as many as 90,000 deaths, more than twice the number killed in a typical seasonal flu, White House advisers said. In a report by the President’s Council of Advisers on Science and Technology, President Barack Obama today was urged to speed vaccine production and name a senior member of the White House staff, preferably the homeland security adviser, to take responsibility for decision-making on the pandemic. Initial doses should be accelerated to mid-September to vaccinate as many as 40 million people, the advisory group said. Seasonal flu usually kills about 36,000 Americans, said Tom Skinner, a spokesman for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Swine flu, also called H1N1, causes more severe illness needing hospitalization among younger people than seasonal flu, while leaving people 65 and older relatively unscathed, said Mike Shaw of the CDC. “This isn’t the flu that we’re used to,” said Kathleen Sebelius, U.S. Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services. “The 2009 H1N1 virus will cause a more serious threat this fall. We won’t know until we’re in the middle of the flu season how serious the threat is, but because it’s a new strain, it’s likely to infect more people than usual.” Data from clinical trials to assess the safety and effectiveness of swine flu vaccines will start to become available in mid-September, health officials reported Aug. 21. Full results from the two-dose trials won’t be available until mid October. Mid-October Vaccine “We are making every preparation effort assuming a safe and effective vaccine will be available in mid-October,” Sebelius said today at the CDC’s Atlanta offices. According to what the advisory report describes as a “plausible scenario,” 30 percent to 50 percent of the country’s population will be infected in the fall and winter. As many as 300,000 patients may be treated in hospital intensive care units, filling 50 percent to 100 percent of the available beds, and 30,000 to 90,000 people may die, the report said. Peter Gross, chief medical officer at Hackensack University Medical Center in New Jersey, said if the group’s scenario comes true, “I think every hospital in America is going to be in a crunch. We’ll be hard pressed to deal with those predictions,” he said. Predictions ‘Overblown’ The predictions seem “overblown,” Gross said, given that swine-flu outbreaks in 1968 and 1957 failed to cause as many deaths, even with medical technology and disease surveillance less advanced than today. “Influenza, you can make all the predictions you want, but it’s more difficult than predicting the weather,” Gross said in a telephone interview today, after the advisory report was made public. “If influenza was a stock, I wouldn’t touch it.” The 775-bed hospital is planning for an outbreak, upping its order of flu medications and discussing where to put patients if the worst occurs, Gross said. The President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology is chaired by John Holdren, the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology, Eric Lander, the head of the Broad Institute of Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and Harold Varmus, the chief executive officer of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York. The 21-member group of scientists and engineers, created by Congress in 1976, advises the president on policy involving scientific matters. Four Months H1N1 has already reached more than 170 countries and territories in the four months since being identified, the Geneva-based World Health Organization said. Swine flu causes similar symptoms as seasonal strains. It has so far resulted in worse than normal flu seasons, with increased hospitalizations and cases of severe illness, the WHO said in an Aug. 12 release. The median age of those with the pandemic virus has been 12 to 17 years, the WHO said on July 24, citing data from Canada, Chile, Japan, U.K. and the U.S. “People who get infected with this strain happen to be the healthiest members of our society,” said Shaw, associate director of laboratory science at the CDC’s flu division, in a presentation today, also at the agency’s offices. The H1N1 strain is genetically related to the 1918 Spanish Flu strain that killed an estimated 50 million people. Variations of the Spanish Flu strain circulated widely until around 1957, when they were pushed aside by other flu strains. People whose first exposure to a flu virus was one of those Spanish Flu relatives may have greater immunity to the current pandemic, Shaw said. To contact the reporters on this story: Tom Randall in New York at trandall6@bloomberg.net Last Updated: August 24, 2009 16:38 EDT
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#1. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)
LOL we gots our electrical jew pappaganda mochine in full steam ahead
President Obama today was urged to speed swine flu vaccine production Swine flu may infect half of the U.S. population this year. This isn't the flu that were're used to As many as 300,000 patients may have to be treated in intensive care units. where to put patients if the worst occurs Precictions "Overblown" The H1N1 strain is genetically related to the 1918 Spanish Flu strain that killed an estimated 50 million people More "gloom and doom" panic propaganda scare tactics from National Media outlet Bloomburg. It's all a bag of crap. The only way these predictions come true will be as a result of the vaccine's sickening and deadly effects.
online.wsj.com/article/SB125116987620655909.html * AUGUST 25, 2009 Swine-Flu Report Details Number of Potential Cases By BETSY MCKAY A report by a panel of scientific advisers to President Barack Obama on Monday presented a "plausible scenario" in which 60 million to 120 million Americans -- or 20% to 40% of the U.S. population -- contract H1N1 swine flu this fall and winter, and 30,000 to 90,000 people die of the disease. The report by the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology made clear that the projection of up to 90,000 deaths -- which it said could be mostly children and young adults -- was "not a prediction," but a planning scenario for which public-health officials should be prepared. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said that a larger number of people could become ill with swine flu than contract seasonal flu because the H1N1 virus strain is new and few have immunity to it. About 36,000 people die of the seasonal flu every year, and about 90% of them are over 65 years old. [Return of the Swine] As many as half of the U.S. population could be infected, including many who wouldn't develop any symptoms, the panel said, and the vast majority of those infected wouldn't become seriously ill. But up to 1.8 million Americans could be sick enough to be hospitalized, with 300,000 of them requiring care in intensive-care units. That would put a strain on the U.S. health-care system, the panel noted, because those patients could occupy between 50% and 100% of available intensive-care beds at the peak of the epidemic in affected regions, while ICU units normally operate close to capacity. Seasonal flu normally causes about 200,000 hospitalizations a year. "This isn't the flu that we're used to," Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Monday at a meeting at the CDC in Atlanta. "We won't know until we're in the middle of the flu season how serious this is." The panel noted that officials faced serious time constraints. The report said peak infection of H1N1 swine flu could occur as early as mid-October -- the same time the government has tentatively planned to begin a vaccination campaign. "The potential mismatch in timing could significantly diminish the usefulness of vaccination for mitigating the epidemic and could place many at risk of serious disease," the panel said. The panel recommended that enough vaccine be ready as early as mid-September to vaccinate up to 40 million people so that vaccination could begin on high-risk groups such as pregnant women, health-care workers, and children and young people with underlying medical conditions could get shots as soon as the first results are available from a series of clinical trials on the vaccine. Officials said that manufacturers are already preparing some finished doses. Write to Betsy McKay at betsy.mckay@wsj.com Printed in The Wall Street Journal, page A3
Total jive. Like government mack daddies talkin bout "new pearl harbor" before 911 ever happen. Only stupid Goy will fall for dis setup. hahaha But ZioJews in controls of usa can make it happen if we think it good for the jew and dat what counts.
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Ding. They're going to have a catastrophe, if they have to go out and manufacture one on their own! I've never seen so much hype about something so trivial. This "flu" is less dangerous than getting the normal flu by a factor of thousands.
Most of those deaths will likely be due to the "vaccine." 9/11 II. So far its been ten times more deadly and kills younger people. I get that you don't trust the government, but just because they are liars doesn't mean everything in the world is a conspiracy theory.
This flu is ten times more deadly than the regular flu.
Yeah. Sure.
Prove it. Good luck doing that. I won't hold my breath. .
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Now THAT is a conspiracy theory. Hurry Rhino, go get your vaccine.
Title: Only one in ten people complaining of flu actually have swine flu
Many Swine Flu Deaths Actually Related To Underlying Medical problems, Not H1N1
http://bmartinmd.com/2009/08/h1n1-death-rate-near-1.html Normal flu is .1%
Right. Sure. Notice my failure of panic.
Notice my failure of panic. Your posts display a total lack of concern with reality. You don't really care what the truth is, you instead make up your own reality. If the world is different from your pre-constructed biases, well then, reality is wrong. The government is out to pollute your precious bodily fluids, and nothing is going to change your mind. Good luck.
Many of the "Swine Flu" deaths so far were actually related to other underlying medical conditions. Never trust the government statistics. The media is hyping "Swine Flu" big time. The Avian Swine Flu Strain Created in the Lab? On Purpose? Who Benefits?
My reality is, watching barely anybody worldwide get infected, and watching fewer of those who do get infected, dying. Meanwhile, 30k+ die every year from common flu in the U.S. That's the reality. I tend to place concern where concern is not warranted. How is it that two weeks ago, give or take, you were telling me "I'm not concerned, it's just something to keep an eye on", but now that the word from the left has come out to panic to justify, well all sorts of things, you're Captain Reality (in a non-reality kind of way)? That's interesting. Oh well.
If all the dead are Obummer-voters then I'll hope for 180,000 corpses.
_________________________________________________________________________ Many of the "Swine Flu" deaths so far were actually related to other underlying medical conditions. That is actually how the regular flu kills most everyone it kills. A healthy young adult will not die from the regular flu. However the swine flu kills healthy people much more than regular flu.
What are your sources and documentation?
Barely anyone is being infected because it is early on in the pandemic and its not flu season. This strain of flu is more lethal than normal. IF, and it definitely is only an if, this strain of the flu catches on, and stays are lethal as it currently is, many more than 30K will die, and those who die will not just be sick old people like the regular flu kills. You aren't just not concerned. I don't care if you aren't concerned. What you are doing is spreading disinformation about it. Its still nothing to panic over, but you are spreading false info. A 1918 like pandemic isn't out of the question. Conservatives spreading illogical fear during such a crisis could kill hundreds of thousands of people.
My noting that I'm not panicking is not spreading false info. As it has played out thus far, I've a better chance of dying of a shark attack or from a random coconut accident. As a person who notices odds, my panic levels remain flat lined on this. IF, and it definitely is only an if, this strain of the flu catches on, and stays are lethal as it currently is, many more than 30K will die, and those who die will not just be sick old people like the regular flu kills. IF, and it definitely is only an if, the moon crashes into the Earth, many more than 30k will die. *yawn* Does panic based manufactured crises bore anybody else? Sorry.
Under the paragraph "New Estimates".
Under the paragraph "New Estimates". http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a8_2nrwYD1kM ‘Overblown’ Estimates The estimates seem “overblown,” Gross said, given that swine-flu outbreaks in 1968 and 1957 failed to cause as many deaths, even with medical technology and disease surveillance less advanced than today. “Influenza, you can make all the predictions you want, but it’s more difficult than predicting the weather,” Gross said yesterday in a telephone interview, after the advisory report was made public. “If influenza was a stock, I wouldn’t touch it.”
Take plenty of Vit C and a good multiple Vit, eat right, get adequate exercise and sleep, stay away from hospitals, clinics and enclosed areas where there are mass congregation because that's where it will be found in the largest concentrations. What the flu statisticians also won't tell you is that during the earlier 20th century swine flu the average victim while young was also a victim of the food shortages mainly caused by the political strife prevalent during that era. And also don't forget the original Swine Flu epidemic death counts were only estimates, probably based on the methodology the CDC is currently employing.
As has already been documented, more than 30K will die from the REGULAR flu. And THAT many die while flu vaccines are dispensed across the country. There is not one iota of evidence that flu vaccines do any good. The flu mutates AFTER the vaccine has been produced. It is a scam for Big Pharma. Hurry and get your shot, Rhino.
The Swine Flu (H1N1) is a real virus. This virus has already killed many people. However, it was developed in a laboratory for the purpose of making big pharma lots of $$$$ and also to create fear to further the New World Order agenda. The bought and paid for media is really hyping the Swine Flu. 36,000 Americans die every year of the common cold virus.
My whole school class in 68 except for me and three others came down with it. Not one died or even had any apparent residual effect. School closed for a couple of days mainly because of too many sick teachers and then reopened with no problems. It was called the Hong Kong flu then. I had actually never heard of the Swine flu until in nursing school.
Let me guess, you're one of those who think fluoride is an essential "nutrient", right? Funny how a bit of propaganda in the way of a movie can affect generations of people in the way of making them think anything the corporate shysters wish to peddle is good and healthy, because to think otherwise is just plain nuts.
Did you rush to go get your smallpox "vaccine" when you were told to?
This virus has already killed many people. I don't doubt that it is a real virus with some potential, I do doubt the statistics concerning it's history. You do know that that almost anyone with vague symptoms and respiratory involvement requiring acute or intensive care that can't be attributed to a specific cause is now being classified as Swine flu regardless of whether the tests are positive for it or there are any other cases in the area.
Many Swine Flu Deaths Actually Related To Underlying Medical problems, Not H1N1
The highest level of rhino allergies occur in those who get flu shots year after year. It's a boon for the allergy medicine producers too.
I think that this thread is giving me a Rhino allergy...........lol.
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Swine Flu May Infect Half The U.S. Population This Year; May Cause 90,000 U.S. Deaths
My rabbi is my dentist.
Gots to keep the money in the family.
#2. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)
Bloomburg
#3. To: BlackSands (#1)
#4. To: TwentyTwelve (#3)
The report by the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology made clear that the projection of up to 90,000 deaths -- which it said could be mostly children and young adults -- was "not a prediction," but a planning scenario for which public-health officials should be prepared.
My rabbi is my dentist.
Gots to keep the money in the family.
#5. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)
#6. To: Eric Stratton (#5)
Most of those deaths will likely be due to the "vaccine."
#7. To: Eric Stratton (#5)
Yeah, and it may only reap the same old affects that any other similar strain of flu does.
#8. To: SonOfLiberty (#6)
This "flu" is less dangerous than getting the normal flu by a factor of thousands.
#9. To: Rhino369 (#8)
#10. To: Rhino369 (#8)
This flu is ten times more deadly than the regular flu.
#11. To: Rhino369 (#7)
So far its been ten times more deadly and kills younger people
#12. To: Rhino369 (#8)
This flu is ten times more deadly than the regular flu.
#13. To: Rhino369 (#8)
This flu is ten times more deadly than the regular flu.
#14. To: PSUSA, SonOfLiberty (#10)
Prove it. Good luck doing that. I won't hold my breath.
#15. To: Rhino369 (#14)
#16. To: SonOfLiberty (#15)
Right. Sure.
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#17. To: Rhino369 (#14)
Normal flu is .1%
#18. To: Rhino369 (#16)
#19. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)
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#20. To: TwentyTwelve (#17)
#21. To: Rhino369 (#20)
However the swine flu kills healthy people much more than regular flu.
#22. To: SonOfLiberty (#18)
My reality is, watching barely anybody worldwide get infected, and watching fewer of those who do get infected, dying. Meanwhile, 30k+ die every year from common flu in the U.S.
That's the reality. I tend to place concern where concern is not warranted.
How is it that two weeks ago, give or take, you were telling me "I'm not concerned, it's just something to keep an eye on", but now that the word from the left has come out to panic to justify, well all sorts of things, you're Captain Reality (in a non-reality kind of way)?
#23. To: Rhino369 (#22)
Its still nothing to panic over, but you are spreading false info.
#24. To: TwentyTwelve (#21)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a8_2nrwYD1kM
#25. To: Rhino369 (#24)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a8_2nrwYD1kM
#26. To: Rhino369 (#24)
#27. To: Rhino369 (#22)
IF, and it definitely is only an if, this strain of the flu catches on, and stays are lethal as it currently is, many more than 30K will die, and those who die will not just be sick old people like the regular flu kills.
#28. To: mininggold, Rhino369 (#26)
And also don't forget the original Swine Flu epidemic death counts were only estimates, probably based on the methodology the CDC is currently employing.
#29. To: TwentyTwelve (#25)
The estimates seem “overblown,” Gross said, given that swine-flu outbreaks in 1968 and 1957 failed to cause as many deaths, even with medical technology and disease surveillance less advanced than today.
#30. To: Rhino369 (#16)
A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#31. To: Rhino369 (#22)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#32. To: TwentyTwelve (#28)
The Swine Flu (H1N1) is a real virus.
#33. To: mininggold (#32)
You do know that that almost anyone with vague symptoms and respiratory involvement requiring acute or intensive care that can't be attributed to a specific cause is now being classified as Swine flu regardless of whether the tests are positive for it or there are any other cases in the area.
#34. To: abraxas (#27)
As has already been documented, more than 30K will die from the REGULAR flu. And THAT many die while flu vaccines are dispensed across the country. There is not one iota of evidence that flu vaccines do any good. The flu mutates AFTER the vaccine has been produced. It is a scam for Big Pharma.
#35. To: mininggold, Rhino369 (#34)
The highest level of rhino allergies occur in those who
#36. To: Rhino369 (#7)
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