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Title: McCain Evicts Angry Woman From Town Hall Meeting
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Published: Aug 27, 2009
Author: HuffPost
Post Date: 2009-08-27 14:34:11 by Brian S
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PHOENIX — Sen. John McCain met with an angry crowd at a town-hall meeting about health care reform Wednesday, sometimes having to fight to talk and telling one woman who wouldn't stop yelling that she had to leave. The Arizona senator hadn't yet opened up the meeting at McCain's central Phoenix church to questions when one audience member continuously yelled over him. "You're going to have to stop or you're going to have to leave," McCain told the woman. When security guards approached to escort her out, he told her "Goodbye, see ya" to a round of applause. After McCain opened it up to questioning, one man angrily pointed at him and asked the senator why he deserves a better health care plan than him. "I'm trying to get it for you," McCain told him. "We'll do it for you. We'll make it affordable and available to you." Other audience members in the crowd of 2,000 told McCain about their medical problems, such as HIV and multiple sclerosis. McCain urged them he would fight for health care reform but reiterated his opposition to President Barack Obama's plan to create a government option to compete with private insurers, arguing that it would be the eventual end of private insurers in the U.S. Obama and most Democrats say a government option would serve to balance the power of private insurers. But insurance companies see it as a step toward a government takeover, and many business groups agree. When McCain was trying to answer questions from reporters after the town hall, one audience member yelled at him that he gets hundreds of thousands of dollars from insurance companies every year. In a voice of feigned surprise, McCain said "Really? I didn't know that." "There's more interest and involvement in this issue than I've ever seen in many years on a domestic issue," McCain said afterward. "There's obviously strong feeling and emotions on this issue and I think the town-hall meetings are a very important way to get people's viewpoints and allow them to deal directly with their elected representative." The Democratic plan has repeatedly run into problems at such meetings. Throughout August, unruly opponents have tried to shout down lawmakers at local town hall meetings. McCain also spoke against the proposal at a much more subdued town-hall meeting Tuesday in the retirement community of Sun City. McCain canceled a Friday trip to Flagstaff so he can attend services for longtime colleague Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, who died Tuesday night.
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#1. To: Brian S, christine, Cynicom, farmfriend, CadetD, Rotara, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull, HOUNDDAWG, bluegrass, Kamala, Deacon Benjamin, HappyToBeMe-4um, Itistoolate, Esso, Shoonra, Weasel Mike, farmfriend, all (#0)
"I'm trying to get it for you," McCain told him. "We'll do it for you. We'll make it affordable and available to you." Other audience members in the crowd of 2,000 told McCain about their medical problems, such as HIV and multiple sclerosis. McCain urged them he would fight for health care reform but reiterated his opposition to President Barack Obama's plan to create a government option to compete with private insurers, arguing that it would be the eventual end of private insurers in the U.S. The key point of course is never discussed i.e., that the Feral Government has no business, nor right, to be involved in Hellthcare beyond public health measures PERIOD. By controlling and shifting the debate from should we allow the Feds to do this to Obamacare® versus Republicare® it totally eliminates the most important objection to federal intervention in healthcare i.e., it's none of their damn business. Of course the Sucker Class sees it as getting something for nothing when there is no such thing. Someone has to pay for all this government largess and that means extorting money from one group to pay for the upkeep of another. The false premise of socialism is that everyone should live in enforced economic equality - except for those running the show. Obamacare® is nothing more than a Trojan Horse for a eugenics agenda and forced population reduction by murdering millions of people. That is the stark reality no one wants to confront.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
with children targetted first, pregnant women second, and the elderly third.
Will the people get an international panel of doctors to treat their brain cancer?? You know, the same treatment Ted Kennedy got for his brain cancer???? Or will they get an end-of-life discharge from "the system"???????
_________________________________________________________________________ Another key point is people with active brain cells shouldn't discuss matters of government with McCain. They should be busy organizing to bring him down and then be ready to replace him with something resembling an American.
True, but seeing him pinned to the wall is entertaining. It is a useful exercise to the degree that it is revealing to the mind numbed robots, such as Dildoeheads, Freeptards®, and BOORtzbots that the R's are in bed with the Demoncrats. Most won't get it but some will, and that is an inroad. Any step forward is to be taken at this point.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
with children targetted first, pregnant women second, and the elderly third. Exactly. Reducing the rate of reproduction is one of their objectives and killing women and children is effective, if you are a morally degenerate psychotic ghoul who looks up admiringly to Hannibal Lectre - as do the NWO elite. As Bob Grant used to put it: "It's sick out and getting sicker."
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
I'm starting to lean your way, OI. Obama has been that much of a wake up call.
A NYC institution I began listening to in the early 70s. He's still kicking about.
Let me get this straight. Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong?
Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? Tag and bookmark.
That's a keeper, buckeroo. I'm going to email that to all of my old unreconstructed left leaning friends.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Your health under the new system?? Eat your Wheaties and take your multi- vitamins starting now......
_________________________________________________________________________ Thanks for my new tagline. :)
Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo And in the end, did it do him any good? He lived a little over 14 months from diagnosis, the median survival rate for his form of cancer.
wow, buck. you've got a hit with that one. ;)
At least he had access to the best doctors of his choice. Can you imagine an ordinary 77 year old person under the Obama plan??: "I'm sorry, there's nothing we can do because you fall outside our actuarial tables for treatment. Here's a bottle of aspirin for the pain...."
_________________________________________________________________________ I'm starting to lean your way, OI. Obama has been that much of a wake up call. We did not get into this pickle over night and there is not going to be a "magic bullet" that is going to take it all away quickly. I wish it were otherwise but I don't believe that to be the case. On the positive side once we get a good head of steam wit will go faster than it is now. There is an underswell building which will eventually rise as a tsunami, but we have to keep building it. Not going into agreement or accepting regurgitated propaganda from people we speak to is an act of resistance. I think I unsettled one of my company's HR geeks here a couple of weeks ago. We were going through a seminar about downsizing and she was spouting the rosy scenario bullshit about how things are beginning to turn around and that the economy would be better by the end of the year. To which I piped up and replied that no it would be at least 2012 to 2015 before we will see a significant recovery begin. Of course what I did not add, because it would not have been real to her, is that it would be contingent upon taking down the top Bankster criminals and exposing them. It would not have been real to her so there was no point in saying it. However, the certainty with which I delivered my comment shook her because it was real to her. Of course having passed the grueling 6 hour written exam and gained an NASD Series 7 License does help. While I don't like argument by authority it can be useful in informal settings in establishing credibility. The key point in approaching our less informed fellows is keeping it real to them. You and I can converse on topics and in detail that would be totally lost on the the average office worker or "man on the street" because we have the background knowledge to make it real. Unfortunately you have to spoonfeed them starting out. I'll use the "icewater dip" as I did with the HR geek where it might be effective - I was addressing the room as much as I was her so the point was to shake people out of their complacency. I don't make comments like that without reason since my objective is waking people not scaring them into a deeper retreat. Oh, well I'm becoming a long winded fifty something again.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? Niecly put Bucky, nicely put. Kudos. Yeah. What could go wrong? All we need now is Larry, Moe, and Curly to run it.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Figuratively speaking, the government stooges already perform at their maximum peak of personal power and true capability for the rest of us god-damned cretin citizens being turned into infinite tax-slaves.
And we should be thankful for all that they do "An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Sarcasm at its best! But never forget, as the government attempts to invoke these new programs upon us wee, little people the government does not fix anything. In effect, with the nation flat broke and in depression based upon past failed expansion programs the government wants to create a method of change to stimulate your conscience juices to achieve the real stimulus package: "get your "eye off the ball." Personally, I am not buying the BS.
Not only that the general legal consensus is that the Feral Government has no Constitutional Authority to mandate healthcare coverage and therefore the bill will be immediately challenged in court in the unlikely event it passes. They are still going to try and push it but they were not able to get it through fast enough and while Congress hasn't read it a lot of smart people have and the implications and mandates of the bill are being communicated to the general public and, bless their pointy heads, the sheeple are reaching for their pitchforks. So, we'll see where this settles out. The elites want this bill, not for improving hellthcare, but to improve the depopulation rate. So, they are going to try to continue to push it but the level of building outrage risks an explosion and our corrupt and worthless Congresscritters is gettin' afeared for their own worthless hides lessen some hothead take a shootin' iron and aim it their way. That of course would just break my liddle heart.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
knowing all you know though, it must be hard at times to hold back?
Thanks. Yes and no. I can be patient when I have to, and since I know that doing it the wrong way is simply going to turn them away the temptation is slight. You can actually do quite a bit without having to give a dissertation. Simply pointing out that the two party fraud is a fraud is a quick one that gets people thinking. Knowing that about 50% of all political donations in national elections come from one Zip Code (Upper Manhattan) is a useful factoid. At this point most intelligent people are at least vaguely aware of that and stating it simply confirms a conclusion they had almost reached. Pointing out that the Environmental Groups are largely funded by the Robber Baron Foundations is way to get around a lefty's defenses, because they just hate that someone might have more that they do. There are a lot of little facts that are useful for getting around the brick overcoat of resistance but their use is often situationally dependent. Like a guy who told me I was kook for saying 911 was an inside job. I asked him what kind of plane hit WTC 7? It took a couple of days before it filtered in but the next time I spoke to him the implanted, by the media, knee jerk reaction was gone.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? I have always believed in giving credit where it is due. That could well be the best post you have ever made (in my opinion).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Are you saying that you don't like or enjoy my Captain Morgan posts? Man, there is just no real justice is there?
Very little.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Why? Where is the fair&just doctrines supporting methods of our own quality of life that ensure all Americans even have the capability to stand on their own legs? Are you telling me, cretins get to vote, too? And are you telling me they have the same or equal leverage as you or I? Why doesn't America instill a method of test about voting capability to limit the capacity of the rif-raf/cretin/brown-noser/morlocks? Is there something wrong with my perspective?
Why doesn't America instill a method of test about voting capability to limit the capacity of the rif-raf/cretin/brown-noser/morlocks? Yes and yes. You and I will both have the glorious opportunity, every two and four years, to vote for either Tweedledumb or Tweedledumber. Both of whom happen to be ideological twins. Well, for one thing, if the test weeded out all those you have specified none of the scumbags who have infested Washington could ever win an election. I think that is the main reason there is no test.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. So, there is an implied or unspoken reason for not having requirements about voter capability; it is to buoy the current government system UP into perpetuity without restraints or even the US Constitutional model acting as the baseboard. There is a problem with American governance. As an opinion, we have allowed the worst sort of people to vote in the system; those cretins are government workers which were never envisioned in the framers conceptual writing of the US Constitution. All government workers should be expelled from having a vote in governance ..... yet, the same government worker body has more control on America than the US Constitution. And, Americans wonder why a president can not make or create any action about the direction of America? The singular or sole reason is because of the largesse of and about the rif-raf comprising the voting system.
After McCain opened it up to questioning, one man angrily pointed at him and asked the senator why he deserves a better health care plan than him.
#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)
Obamacare® is nothing more than a Trojan Horse for a eugenics agenda and forced population reduction by murdering millions of people. That is the stark reality no one wants to confront.
#3. To: Brian S (#0)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#4. To: Original_Intent, all (#1)
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
Another key point is people with active brain cells shouldn't discuss matters of government with McCain. They should be busy organizing to bring him down and then be ready to replace him with something resembling an American.
#6. To: christine (#2)
(Edited)
Obamacare® is nothing more than a Trojan Horse for a eugenics agenda and forced population reduction by murdering millions of people. That is the stark reality no one wants to confront.
#7. To: Original_Intent (#5)
Any step forward is to be taken at this point.
#8. To: Original_Intent (#6)
Bob Grant
#9. To: X-15, Jethro Tull, Brian S (#3)
#10. To: buckeroo (#9)
Let me get this straight.
#11. To: buckeroo (#9)
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#12. To: buckeroo (#9)
What could possibly go wrong?
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#13. To: buckeroo (#9)
Let me get this straight.
#14. To: X-15 (#3)
Will the people get an international panel of doctors to treat their brain cancer?? You know, the same treatment Ted Kennedy got for his brain cancer???? Or will they get an end-of-life discharge from "the system"???????
#15. To: buckeroo (#9)
#16. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#14)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#17. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
Any step forward is to be taken at this point.
#18. To: buckeroo (#9)
Let me get this straight.
#19. To: Original_Intent (#18)
All we need now is Larry, Moe, and Curly to run it.
#20. To: buckeroo (#19)
(Edited)
to for us.
#21. To: Original_Intent (#20)
And we should be thankful for all that the[y] do
to for us.
#22. To: buckeroo (#21)
(Edited)
Personally, I am not buying the BS.
#23. To: Original_Intent (#17)
#24. To: christine (#23)
knowing all you know though, it must be hard at times to hold back?
#25. To: buckeroo (#9)
Let me get this straight.
Lord Acton
#26. To: James Deffenbach (#25)
#27. To: buckeroo (#26)
Man, there is just no real justice is there?
Lord Acton
#28. To: James Deffenbach (#27)
#29. To: buckeroo (#28)
Are you telling me, cretins get to vote, too? And are you telling me they have the same or equal leverage as you or I?
Lord Acton
#30. To: James Deffenbach (#29)
I think that is the main reason there is no test.
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