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Title: Judge Strikes Reference to God in Kentucky Law That Created The Kentucky Office of Homeland Security
Source: Associated Press
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Published: Aug 27, 2009
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2009-08-27 14:53:09 by Brian S
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Views: 2488
Comments: 91

Decision: Homeland Security's Dependence on "Almighty God" Akin to Establishing a Religion

(AP) It is one thing to trust in God, but quite another to be ordered to rely on protection from above during national emergencies, a judge has ruled.

Franklin Circuit Judge Thomas Wingate said in Wednesday's decision that references to a dependence on "Almighty God" in the law that created the Kentucky Office of Homeland Security is akin to establishing a religion, which the government is prohibited from doing in the U.S. and Kentucky constitutions. Ten Kentucky residents and a national atheist group sued to have the reference stricken.

"It is breathtakingly unconstitutional," said Edwin Kagin, national legal director for American Atheists Inc. in Union, "and Judge Wingate goes to great detail as to why it is."

The judge wrote in the 18-page ruling: "The statute pronounces very plainly that current citizens of the Commonwealth cannot be safe, neither now, nor in the future, without the aid of Almighty God. Even assuming that most of this nation's citizens have historically depended upon God, by choice, for their protection, this does not give the General Assembly the right to force citizens to do so now."

The language in the 2006 legislation had been inserted by state Rep. Tom Riner, D-Louisville, a pastor of Christ is King Baptist Church in Louisville.

Riner said he planned to ask Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway to seek a reconsideration of the order. Conway has 10 days to do that, and 30 days to appeal.

"They make the argument ... that it has to do with a religion," Riner said, "and promoting a religion. God is not a religion. God is God."

A spokeswoman for Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway says he has not yet decided whether to appeal.

The state Office of Homeland Security was created in response to the Sept. 11 attacks, Wingate said in the order, and two amendments added to the statute creating the office were at issue.

One required that training materials include information that the General Assembly stressed a "dependence on Almighty God as being vital to the security of the Commonwealth." The other required a plaque to be placed at the entrance to the state's Emergency Operations Center in Frankfort that said, in part, "the safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty God."

Wingate noted in the order that there are 32 references to God or Almighty God in state statutes and the state constitution.

But the reference in the homeland security law "places an affirmative duty to rely on Almighty God for the protection of the Commonwealth," Wingate wrote. "This makes the statute exceptional among thousands of others, and therefore, unconstitutional."

Riner said he was not willing to consider rewording the phrases to make them pass muster.

"This is no small matter, the understanding that God is real," he said. "There are real benefits to acknowledging Him. There was not a single founder or framer of the Constitution who didn't believe that."

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#1. To: Brian S, Alan Chapman, christine, all (#0)

Fuck the atheists. They are a bunch of neurotic/psychotic screwballs who are scared shitless that someone, perhaps God, will hold them to account for their misdeeds. Thus their mania to attack religion and promote their atheism as the only acceptable belief.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-27   15:00:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#1)

F*ck the atheists. They are a bunch of neurotic/psychotic screwballs who are scared shitless that someone, perhaps God, will hold them to account for their misdeeds. Thus their mania to attack religion and promote their atheism as the only acceptable belief.

That's pretty much the way it is, isn't it?

But even that doesn't explain why they apparently prefer to live in a society devoid of Godly standards.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-27   15:54:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: F16Fighter (#15)

But even that doesn't explain why they apparently prefer to live in a society devoid of Godly standards.

God's standards are the moral standards of bronze age nomads. Why would you choose to live under their rules?

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-27   16:02:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Rhino369 (#22)

God's standards are the moral standards of bronze age nomads. Why would you choose to live under their rules?

Dude, as a result of following biblical principles and tenets, America and our Republic has been forged, and foundation still standing. Denying that would be monumentally disingenuous and intellectually dishonest...

Do you really feel America is a better place as an atheistic society?

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-27   16:07:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: F16Fighter (#24) (Edited)

Dude, as a result of following biblical principles and tenets, America and our Republic has been forged, and foundation still standing. Denying that would be monumentally disingenuous and intellectually dishonest...

What about America follows biblical principles? Things like representative republics, liberty, and the like aren't in the bible. Other principles like capitalism are expressly preached against by Jesus. Materialism is rejected by Jesus. The beatitudes call for poverty, hunger, pacifism, and meekness. The discourse on ostentation is about is unamerican as you can get.

Rebellion itself is unbiblical.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, not found in the bible, but in enlightenment era philosophical essays.

Do you really feel America is a better place as an atheistic society?

Yes.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-27   16:16:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#62. To: Rhino369 (#29)

What about America follows biblical principles? Things like representative republics, liberty, and the like aren't in the bible. Other principles like capitalism are expressly preached against by Jesus. Materialism is rejected by Jesus. The beatitudes call for poverty, hunger, pacifism, and meekness. The discourse on ostentation is about is unamerican as you can get.

Honesty, fairness and honor - hallmarks of biblical principles which are the backbone of law and order. Accountability to an Almighty has in no small measure been a catalyst in maintaining business ethics and wealth in America.

* Main Entry: cap·i·tal·ism
* Pronunciation: Èka-pY-tY-Ìliz-Ym, Èkap-tY-, British also kY-Èpi-tY-
* Function: noun
* Date: 1877

An economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market.

(source: Merriam-Webster's Dictionary)

Even Jesus - as a carpenter - needed to be paid for his services. He was NOT anti-business, nor pro-communist, which advocates stealing time and wealth and work.

As to Christ and his beatitudes, His context is taken out of context - He spoke in aphorisms and parables in addressing His audience about humility, spiritual hunger, and yes - rejecting the worship of earthly wealth on their way to His Kingdom.

Rebellion itself is unbiblical.

The Bible itself tells us Man is rebellious...against good. Against, the Bible must be understood in context - and when it is, it takes on a whole different meaning that is not so much literal - but not that it isn't as well.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, not found in the bible, but in enlightenment era philosophical essays.

True - much of the concepts of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness were philosophies forged in the Age of Enlightenment by deists. However it doesn't detract from the biblical tenets nor high composition American Founders. Deists were odd birds; They reject supernaturalism, yet believed in God. They believe this same God had bailed out on Man - apparently just after His Creation, thus presuming Man has invented virtue.

Q: America has historically NOT based on atheistic ethics and morals - what makes you thinks the Republic and liberty would thrive - much less survive?

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