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Title: Judge Strikes Reference to God in Kentucky Law That Created The Kentucky Office of Homeland Security
Source: Associated Press
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Published: Aug 27, 2009
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2009-08-27 14:53:09 by Brian S
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Decision: Homeland Security's Dependence on "Almighty God" Akin to Establishing a Religion

(AP) It is one thing to trust in God, but quite another to be ordered to rely on protection from above during national emergencies, a judge has ruled.

Franklin Circuit Judge Thomas Wingate said in Wednesday's decision that references to a dependence on "Almighty God" in the law that created the Kentucky Office of Homeland Security is akin to establishing a religion, which the government is prohibited from doing in the U.S. and Kentucky constitutions. Ten Kentucky residents and a national atheist group sued to have the reference stricken.

"It is breathtakingly unconstitutional," said Edwin Kagin, national legal director for American Atheists Inc. in Union, "and Judge Wingate goes to great detail as to why it is."

The judge wrote in the 18-page ruling: "The statute pronounces very plainly that current citizens of the Commonwealth cannot be safe, neither now, nor in the future, without the aid of Almighty God. Even assuming that most of this nation's citizens have historically depended upon God, by choice, for their protection, this does not give the General Assembly the right to force citizens to do so now."

The language in the 2006 legislation had been inserted by state Rep. Tom Riner, D-Louisville, a pastor of Christ is King Baptist Church in Louisville.

Riner said he planned to ask Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway to seek a reconsideration of the order. Conway has 10 days to do that, and 30 days to appeal.

"They make the argument ... that it has to do with a religion," Riner said, "and promoting a religion. God is not a religion. God is God."

A spokeswoman for Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway says he has not yet decided whether to appeal.

The state Office of Homeland Security was created in response to the Sept. 11 attacks, Wingate said in the order, and two amendments added to the statute creating the office were at issue.

One required that training materials include information that the General Assembly stressed a "dependence on Almighty God as being vital to the security of the Commonwealth." The other required a plaque to be placed at the entrance to the state's Emergency Operations Center in Frankfort that said, in part, "the safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty God."

Wingate noted in the order that there are 32 references to God or Almighty God in state statutes and the state constitution.

But the reference in the homeland security law "places an affirmative duty to rely on Almighty God for the protection of the Commonwealth," Wingate wrote. "This makes the statute exceptional among thousands of others, and therefore, unconstitutional."

Riner said he was not willing to consider rewording the phrases to make them pass muster.

"This is no small matter, the understanding that God is real," he said. "There are real benefits to acknowledging Him. There was not a single founder or framer of the Constitution who didn't believe that."

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#1. To: Brian S, Alan Chapman, christine, all (#0)

Fuck the atheists. They are a bunch of neurotic/psychotic screwballs who are scared shitless that someone, perhaps God, will hold them to account for their misdeeds. Thus their mania to attack religion and promote their atheism as the only acceptable belief.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-27   15:00:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)

Fuck the atheists. They are a bunch of neurotic/psychotic screwballs who are scared shitless that someone, perhaps God, will hold them to account for their misdeeds. Thus their mania to attack religion and promote their atheism as the only acceptable belief.

God is a myth buddy. Don't get all pissy because you are so afraid of death you have to make up an afterlife.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-27   15:31:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Rhino369, Original_Intent (#2)

God is a myth buddy. Don't get all pissy because you are so afraid of death you have to make up an afterlife.

Energy does not dissipate. That alone leads to life after death. Course my views on God are...a bit different.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-27   15:34:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: farmfriend (#3)

Energy does not dissipate. That alone leads to life after death.

You clearly don't understand energy.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-27   15:35:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Rhino369, Original_Intent (#5)

You clearly don't understand energy.

Such snap judgments. I do understand energy. Too bad you would rather pass judgments on me rather than discuss concepts.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-27   15:40:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: farmfriend (#7)

Such snap judgments. I do understand energy. Too bad you would rather pass judgments on me rather than discuss concepts.

Discuss concepts? Energy is the potential to do work, which is F dotted with the displacement vector. Energy isn't your mind or your soul. When you die your energy is still where it was when you were alive. Its in your body. Microorganisms "eat" you for it. The rest of the energy stays in the chemical bonds in your bones and remnants.

You are a complex chemical reaction.

Conservation of energy does not imply an afterlife. Asserting it does betrays significant ignorance.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-27   15:46:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rhino369 (#9)

Discuss concepts? Energy is the potential to do work, which is F dotted with the displacement vector.

A better reply.

Conservation of energy does not imply an afterlife. Asserting it does betrays significant ignorance.

My apologies for not wording my initial response scientifically enough.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-27   15:53:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: farmfriend (#14)

A better reply.

Conservation of energy does not imply an afterlife. Asserting it does betrays significant ignorance.

My apologies for not wording my initial response scientifically enough.

I'm sorry for acting like a dick, but your post seemingly made a ridiculous claim. And ridiculous claims can't be met with logic, and instead should only be met with dismissal.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-27   16:00:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Rhino369, Original_Intent (#19)

I'm sorry for acting like a dick, but your post seemingly made a ridiculous claim. And ridiculous claims can't be met with logic, and instead should only be met with dismissal.

Well my concepts are hard to grasp and difficult for me to put into words. As I said they are not...normal. I am a Bible believing Christian though. I have simply broadened my view to incorporate science. I don't see the disconnect everyone tries to make exist. I see harmony where others see discordance. Too me is it like arguing whether an E is better than an F and claiming they should never be played together, yet I have seen them used in beautiful music. Carmina Burna being one example.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-27   16:16:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: farmfriend (#28)

Carmina Burna being one example.

One of the best arguments for the existence of divine inspiration. The most beautiful choral work ever written. Therein lies proof of the existence of the human spirit as there can be no other explanation for something so ethereal as music - which has absolutely has no utilitarian rationale and yet exalts the human spirit like no other art.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-27   16:22:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent (#32)

One of the best arguments for the existence of divine inspiration. The most beautiful choral work ever written. Therein lies proof of the existence of the human spirit as there can be no other explanation for something so ethereal as music - which has absolutely has no utilitarian rationale and yet exalts the human spirit like no other art.

Amen!

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-27   16:27:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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