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Title: Coverage under Obamacare will require an implantable microchip.
Source: http://www.abovetopsecret.com
URL Source: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread496625/pg1
Published: Aug 30, 2009
Author: abovetopsecret.com
Post Date: 2009-08-30 19:46:20 by freepatriot32
Ping List: *libertarians*     Subscribe to *libertarians*
Keywords: Obamacare, Coverage, implantable, microchip.
Views: 1966
Comments: 57

There's a pretty starling thing in the bill that 95% of Americans won't like.

The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable." Then on page 1004 it describes what the term "data" means in paragraph 1, section B:

14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15 formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1), 16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized 17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of 18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health 19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the 20 Secretary"

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Lets see...

Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency transponder system for patient identification and health information." The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as "claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."

This sort of device would be implanted in the majority of people who opt to become covered by the public health care option. With the reform of the private insurance companies, who charge outrageous rates, many people will switch their coverage to a more affordable insurance plan. This means the number of people who choose the public option will increase. This also means the number of people chipped will be plentiful as well. The adults who choose to have a chip implanted are the lucky (yes, lucky) ones in this case. Children who are "born in the United States who at the time of birth is not otherwise covered under acceptable coverage" will be qualified and placed into the CHIP or Children's Health Insurance Program (what a convenient name). With a name like CHIP it would seem consistent to have the chip implanted into a child. Children conceived by parents who are already covered under the public option will more than likely be implanted with a chip by the consent of the parent. Eventually everyone will be implanted with a chip. And with the price and coverage of the public option being so competitive with the private companies, the private company may not survive.

So will everyone be covered by the public option eventually??????

And does that mean everyone will be chipped?????

SOURCE: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text Subscribe to *libertarians*

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#5. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

More neocon nutter fear mongering, IMO.

And there is a lot of that these days.

tom007  posted on  2009-08-30   21:11:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tom007, freepatriot32, christine, all (#5)

More neocon nutter fear mongering, IMO.

And there is a lot of that these days.

So, are you saying the quoted text out of the bill is not text quoted out of the bill?

Uh, Tommy your infatuation with State Kontrolled Hellthcare has taken you over the deep end. Now you are denying things written into the text of the bill are not things written into the text of the bill. You want State Kontrolled Hellthcare so bad that you have disengaged your analytic capabilities and are operating under a purely reactive knee jerk response mechanism.

Rule 1. State Controlled Hellthcare is always good.

Rule 2. In the event contrary evidence is presented refer to "Rule 1.".

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-31   11:15:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent (#11)

neocon nutter

That moran uses terms loosely, eh ??

Fucking tools of the NWO and too stupid to know or care about it...

Rotara  posted on  2009-08-31   12:06:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rotara, Tom007, christine, all (#16) (Edited)

neocon nutter

That moran uses terms loosely, eh ??

Fucking tools of the NWO and too stupid to know or care about it...

The problem with "true believers" in State Controlled Hellthcare (regardless of whatever it is called whether "Universal", "Single Payer", or "Bob" it is still State Controlled and the State Controls who and what is covered thus killing the freedom to choose alternatives to bad Hellthcare) is that it is assumed to be always good, regardless of any valid contrary points, and to just label it as "Universal" or "Bob" is enough to shut down their analytic capabilities. People who normally look with a jaundiced eye at government malfeasance instantly turn into purring pussycats at the mere prospect that a Bill so named (regardless of the realities or details or consequences) will be passed into law thus forcing their fellows to do what they FEEL is right. Thus anyone who opposes the ineffable and unqualified good of any scheme so named is by definition evil (say, a "neocon nutter") regardless of what the Bill actually says or would do. This label is applied regardless of the history of that individual opposing the actions of the Bush Junta and their NeoTrotskyCon hoard.

P.T. Barnum had a name for such people: "Suckers".

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-31   12:18:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent (#20)

P.T. Barnum had a name for such people: "Suckers".

Suckers are also those who think that McCain/Palin would have been any different (other than possibly using different contractors) than Obama/Biden. In fact I bet many would be in favor of a similiar McCainCare as I sure didn't hear that Republican uproar over Medicare D when it was passed.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-31   12:37:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mininggold (#25)

P.T. Barnum had a name for such people: "Suckers".

Suckers are also those who think that McCain/Palin would have been any different (other than possibly using different contractors) than Obama/Biden. In fact I bet many would be in favor of a similiar McCainCare as I sure didn't hear that Republican uproar over Medicare D when it was passed.

You may speculate as you wish. I'm dealing in current realities.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-31   12:38:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Original_Intent (#26)

You may speculate as you wish. I'm dealing in current realities.

All political futures is speculation. Do you actually think McCain the great taker of rights via CFR would not have tried to take even more?

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-31   12:46:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold (#28)

Do you actually think McCain the great taker of rights via CFR would not have tried to take even more?

LOL

O_I has not once ever shown delusions of R&D grandeur. Anyone with a few functioning brain cells understands that at this point, R&D is the exact same thing in the final rinse. It's just how they market and appeal to the rubes.

LOL

Rotara  posted on  2009-08-31   12:48:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rotara (#30)

O_I has not once ever shown delusions of R&D grandeur. Anyone with a few functioning brain cells understands that at this point, R&D is the exact same thing in the final rinse. It's just how they market and appeal to the rubes.

Yeah right.... just bring the great white Palin and see the results you get here.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-31   12:53:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mininggold, Rotara, christine, all (#32)

O_I has not once ever shown delusions of R&D grandeur. Anyone with a few functioning brain cells understands that at this point, R&D is the exact same thing in the final rinse. It's just how they market and appeal to the rubes.

Yeah right.... just bring the great white Palin and see the results you get here.

You will do anything to avoid confronting the realities won't you?

The reality is that this is nothing more than a Trojan Horse to aggregate greater control over formerly free people in totalitarian hands.

Oh, and if you are going to try to deride me with Strawman arguments then at least have the courtesy to ping me to the attack.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-31   13:00:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Original_Intent (#36)

Mind numbingly frustrating to see the lack of critical thinking or reasoning...

Rotara  posted on  2009-08-31   13:17:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#43. To: Rotara (#41) (Edited)

Mind numbingly frustrating to see the lack of critical thinking or reasoning...

It so wonderful to be in the presence of such superior beings. Should all lesser beings bow down now or later?

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-31 13:22:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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