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Title: Cheney Advocated Attack On Iran, But Bush Wanted Diplomacy
Source: HAARETZ
URL Source: [None]
Published: Aug 30, 2009
Author: News Agencies
Post Date: 2009-08-30 19:53:25 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 449
Comments: 11

Former U.S. vice president Dick Cheney told Fox News Sunday that while he advocated taking military action against Iran's nuclear program, ultimately, it was not his choice to make.

When asked in the interview broadcast whether he considered it a mistake that the U.S. did not take out Iran's program, Cheney answered by describing himself as "a bigger advocate of military action than any of [his] colleagues."

Still, he said, "It was not my decision to make... The president made the decision and, obviously, we pursued the diplomatic avenues."

"I think it was very important that the military option be on the table," Cheney said. "I thought that negotiations could not possibly succeed unless the Iranians really believed we were prepared to use military force. And to date, of course, they are still proceeding with their nuclear program and the matter has not yet been resolved."

"We can speculate about what might have happened if we had followed a different course of action," added the former vice president. "As I say I was an advocate of a more robust policy than any of my colleagues, but I didn't make the decision."

Did they disagree on other national security policy decisions? Certainly. But was Cheney frustrated or even disappointed when overruled by his boss, President George W. Bush? Not at all, the former vice president says.

"The fact of the matter is, he encouraged me to give him my view on a whole range of issues. I did," Cheney said.

"Sometimes he agreed. Sometimes he did not. That was true from the very beginning of the administration," Cheney said.

Cheney said that while he supported taking military action against Iran's nuclear program, Bush, wanted to try engaging Iranian leaders first.

Earlier reports cast Bush and Cheney at opposite ends on several other issues. Cheney reportedly disagreed with Bush's decision to stop waterboarding terror suspects - a harsh interrogation tactic that critics call torture. He also reportedly differed with the president on whether to pursue diplomatic talks with North Korea.

On the flip side, Cheney reportedly agreed with Bush on closing secret prisons where interrogators have greater latitude to question terror suspects than at the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay.

Asked directly about each, Cheney punted.

Does he feel Bush was less tough on foreign policy during his second term in office than in his first?

"I wouldn't say that," Cheney told Fox News.

Cheney also said the Obama administration shouldn't be driven by a deadline to leave Iraq if the country isn't stable enough by then to remain secure.

"I think there's a danger there that you're going to let the drive to get out overwhelm the good sense of staying long enough to make certain the outcome is what we want," he said.

However, the deadlines in the U.S. security agreement with Iraq - which calls for all American combat troops to leave by the end of 2011 - was negotiated by the Bush administration.

In the end, being a consummate Washington power player, Cheney plugged his upcoming book to provide the answers about where he butted heads with Bush.

"I think you are going to have wait and read my book," he said.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

...while he supported taking military action against Iran's nuclear program, Bush, wanted to try engaging Iranian leaders first.

"I think there's a danger there that you're going to let the drive to get out overwhelm the good sense of staying long enough to make certain the outcome is what we want," he said.

Cheney's ultimately becoming the 'Vice President' was clearly the Zionist Illuminist 'play on words.' There cannot be too much doubt about who was really the 'senior partner' in that charade.

Those who aren't aware of Cheney's 'vices' and love of violence would be most interested in the recovered memories contained within "The Trance-Formation of America."

A devout Zionist, Cheney most certainly has acquired the very unique 'Jewish psyche.'

Shoot first (start the war) then keep it going until the 'outcome is what we want.'

America's 'foreign policy' is a spittin' image of the Israeli 'Palestinian Policy.'

How can that possibly be?

SCPO Blackshoe Retired  posted on  2009-08-30   21:51:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: SCPO Blackshoe Retired (#1)

A devout Zionist, Cheney most certainly has acquired the very unique 'Jewish psyche.'

Shoot first (start the war) then keep it going until the 'outcome is what we want.'

America the Mark

From a game theory perspective, what is the probability of a violent reaction in the Middle East after more than a half-century of serial Israeli provocations—in an environment where the U.S. is identified (correctly) as the Zionist state’s special friend and protector?

During the 1967 War, the Israeli killing of 34 Americans aboard the USS Liberty confirmed that a U.S. president (Democrat Lyndon Johnson) could be induced to condone murderous behavior by Israel. Two decades later, Operation Trojan confirmed that a U.S. president (Republican Ronald Reagan) could be induced to attack an Arab nation based on intelligence fixed by Israel.

For more than six decades, the U.S. has armed, financed, befriended and defended Zionism. This “special relationship” includes the U.S.-discrediting veto of dozens of U.N. resolutions critical of Israeli conduct. From a game theory perspective, how difficult was it to anticipate that—out of a worldwide population of 1.3 billion Muslims—19 Muslim men could be induced to perpetrate a murderous act in response to U.S support for Israel’s lengthy mistreatment of Arabs and Muslims, particularly Palestinians?

Israeli game theorists operate not from the Center for Morality or the Center for Justice but from the Center for Rationality. As modeled by Zionist war planners, game theory is devoid of all values except one: the ability to anticipate—within an acceptable range of probabilities—how “the mark” will react when provoked. Thus we see the force-multiplier potential for those who wage war with well-planned provocations and well-timed crises.

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X-15  posted on  2009-09-02   2:19:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: X-15 (#8)

...how difficult was it to anticipate that—out of a worldwide population of 1.3 billion Muslims—19 Muslim men could be induced to perpetrate a murderous act in response to U.S...

If, that in reality is what truly happened.

The advance preparations for that 'event' could only be carried out by a group well acquainted with the inner workings of The District and all who do their 'business' there.

Cui bono?

SCPO Blackshoe Retired  posted on  2009-09-05   21:54:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SCPO Blackshoe Retired (#9)

The advance preparations for that 'event' could only be carried out by a group well acquainted with the inner workings of The District and all who do their 'business' there.

There's no business like shoah business!

X-15  posted on  2009-09-08   17:38:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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There's no business like shoah business!

Bullseye!!

SCPO Blackshoe Retired  posted on  2009-09-11 20:07:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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