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Title: Need Help.. H1N1 Info needed
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Published: Aug 31, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-09-01 00:11:38 by Refinersfire
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Ok.. here's the skinny.. as most of you know, my wife works at a cancer hospital, here on the east coast. Tonight when she got home, she informed me, that they (aka.. the hospital) was stating she had to (along with all other staff) get the H1N1 Flu Shot. To which my reply was HELL NO! So she called the big cheeses there and was told, if she could provide PROOF to back our concern, that the meds were more of a threat, they may consider, allowing her to avoid the shot, but she would need to wear a face mask for the next six months, in replacement of the shot. Can anyone post the info from a good soruce (aka.. one a hospital would accept), that show the dangers of this crap? I just don't have the time in the next two days, with taking care of both her mom and my dad (not even including the boys in all of that mess).. Many Thanks for any and all help on this issue!!!!
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#1. To: Refinersfire (#0)
The best website I've seen to date on this and all other viral concerns can be found HERE. It's "Recombinomics.com" and I've been following it for years now.
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#2. To: Refinersfire (#0)
This May Be Useful
#3. To: Refinersfire (#0)
Convert to Buddhism. A Buddhist must stay pure in mind and body. Pick up a "Statue of Buddha" on www.ebay.com and you have a Buddhist Temple at home. Om Mani Padme Hum.>!
HELL NO!
#4. To: Refinersfire (#0)
http://www.naturalnews.com/026866_swine_flu_flu_vaccine_swine_flu_vaccine.html Swine Flu Vaccine Linked to Paralysis, Leaked Memo Reveals http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1207270/A-nurses-refuse-swine-flu- jab.html A third of nurses (in Britain) will refuse to have the swine flu jab(shot) http://www.examiner.com/x-18173-Utah-County-Libertarian-Examiner~y2009m8d16-The- swine-flu-vaccination-linked-to-fatal-disorder The swine flu vaccination linked to fatal disorder (Guillain-Barre Syndrome) http://blogs.mercola.com/sites/vitalvotes/archive/2009/07/17/Squalene-The-Swine- Flu-Vaccines-Dirty-Little-Secret-Exposed.aspx Squalene: The Swine Flu Vaccine57;s Dirty Little Secret Exposed http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2008884/ h1n1_flu_vaccine_will_contain_mercury.html?cat=5 H1N1 Flu Vaccine Will Contain Mercury http://www.naturalnews.com/026717_swine_flu_flu_vaccine_swine_flu_vaccine.html Ten Things You're Not Supposed to Know about the Swine Flu Vaccine http://www.newsmax.com/health/vaccine_swine_flu/2009/07/07/232717.html Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31971355/ns/health-swine_flu/ Legal Immunity Set For Swine Flu Vaccine Makers http://www.whale.to/vaccines/mf59_h.html The Swine Flu Vaccines Contain Dangerous MF59 (Squalene) http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/safety-questions-over-swine-flu- vaccine-14415713.html?r=RSS Safety questions over swine flu vaccine http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/live-avian-flu-virus-placed-in- baxter-vaccine-material-sent-to-18-countries/ Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries http://www.prisonplanet.com/accidental-contamination-of-vaccine-with-live-avian- flu-virus-virtually-impossible.html 56;Accidental57; Contamination Of Vaccine With Live Avian Flu Virus Virtually Impossible http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/startling-new-evidence-that-the- swine-flu-pandemic-is-man-made/ Startling New Evidence That The 56;Swine Flu57; Pandemic Is Man-Made! http://www.infowars.com/h1n1-pandemic-pentagon-planning-deployment-of-troops-in- support-of-nationwide-vaccination/ H1N1 Pandemic: Pentagon Planning Deployment of Troops in Support of Nationwide Vaccination http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/29/ AR2009072903607.html?sid=ST2009072903827 Flu Vaccine Panel Creates Priority List -- Pregnant Women, Caregivers Are First http://www.naturalnews.com/026779_swine_flu_patents_vaccines.html Diseased African Monkeys Used to Make Swine Flu Vaccines; Private Military Contractor Holds Key Patents http://www.i-sis.org.uk/fastTrackSwineFluVaccineUnderFire.php Fast-tracked Swine Flu Vaccine under Fire http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2764 Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccines - Untested, Unsafe and Unnecessary http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5215-obama-administration-mulls-new-quarantine- regulations Obama Administration Mulls New Quarantine Regulations http://dprogram.net/2009/08/15/novartis-vaccine-consists-of-cancerous-cells- from-animals-warns-german-health-expert/ Novartis Vaccine Consists of Cancerous Cells from Animals Warns German Health Expert http://www.sv40foundation.org/ SV40 contaminated vaccines were injected into children up until 1963 'SV40 exposure could lead to cancer in humans under natural conditions' http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/cbs+60+minutes%2C+swine+flu+vaccine/ video/x9mh9f_swine-flu-1976-propaganda_webcam CBS 60 Minutes covers the 1976 Swine Flu Vaccine which killed more people than the flu http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090827/hl_nm/us_flu_vaccine_3 Many health workers won't take swine flu vaccine http://www.prisonplanet.com/polls-half-of-doctors-will-refuse-to-take-swine-flu- shot.html Polls: Half Of Doctors Will Refuse To Take Swine Flu Shot http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14851 What's the Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations? http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14869 The vaccines are far more deadly than the swine flu http://www.naturalnews.com/026940_vaccines_vaccination_health.html Historical facts about the dangers (and failures) of vaccines
#5. To: Refinersfire (#0)
Title: Early and Current Fears about Vaccine Dangers Public "may refuse pandemic vaccine" Polls: Half Of Doctors Will Refuse To Take Swine Flu Shot Title: What Travelers Need to Know About Swine Flu Most cases of swine flu are turning out to be mild and don't even require a trip to the doctor's office. It's just another flu to suffer through with your usual over the counter medications and your mother's chicken soup. Title: CDC leery of estimates about swine flu's toll 0f 90,000 dying this Fall Title: How many people die from (regular) flu each year in the United States? The number of influenza-associated (i.e., flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons often fluctuate in length and severity. CDC estimated that about 36,000 people died of flu-related causes each year, on average, during the 1990s in the United States. Title: Only one in ten people complaining of flu actually have swine flu Title: Half of swine flu deaths in high-risk people –study Many Swine Flu Deaths Actually Related To Underlying Medical problems, Not H1N1 Title: Adjuvant may stretch swine flu vaccine supply Title: Poll: Most Americans Not Concerned About Swine Flu Title: Swine Flu Shots May Be Too Little, Too Late to Halt Outbreaks British Newspaper Reveals Letters About Swine Flu Shot Risks Swine Flu 101: What do the numbers mean Swine flu vaccine may be deadly Title: A third of nurses will refuse to have the swine flu jab Title: WHO Withholding Tamiflu Resistant Pandemic H1N1 Locations Title: Refuse and Resist Mandatory Flu Vaccines Title: The swine flu vaccination linked to fatal disorder Title: Calling Big Pharma’s Bluff – Swine Flu Misfires in the UK Title: In India swine flu panic spreads faster than virus UK officials warn doctors of deadly swine flu vaccine danger The media is hyping this "epidemic" big time! Swine Flu May Not Be Any Deadlier This Fall: Experts Title: 'tube - 1976 Swine Flu propaganda US Air Force Study Suggests 2009 Influenza Pandemic in 1996 Previous Swine Flu Outbreak Originated At Fort Dix! Title: Military Poised to Help FEMA Battle Swine Flu Outbreak Bio Watch : CDC: "Never-before-seen mixture of swine, human and avian viruses Outbreak" Title: Squalene: The Swine Flu Vaccine’s Dirty Little Secret Exposed Title: Swine Flu Shot in U.S. May Rely on Emergency Use of Additives Title: Ten Things You're Not Supposed to Know about the Swine Flu Vaccine FLU SHOTS AND THE NEW ADJUVANTS: BEWARE! by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, DO Readying Americans for Dangerous, Mandatory Vaccinations Fears of 1976 ‘Swine Flu Debabcle’ Emerging Title: Swine Flu Vaccine of 1976- More Harm than Good? Mass flu vaccination would be madness Title: Drug groups to reap swine-flu billions Title: Swine flu vaccine a boon for Baxter Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu Title: New flu resembles feared 1918 virus, study finds Ft. Detrick Lab Missing 9000 Virus Vials; Scientists Still Dying from Unnatural Causes (06/24/09) Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus ‘Accidental’ Contamination Of Vaccine With Live Avian Flu Virus Virtually Impossible The Avian Swine Flu Strain Created in the Lab? On Purpose? Who Benefits? Baxter Pharmaceutical Mixed Avian Flu with Flu Vaccine (03/05/09) List of Dead Scientists Its now up to 88 DEAD MICROBIOLOGISTS since 9/11/01. Who’s Killing the World’s Microbiologists? A recent spate of dead microbiologists who worked for research firms with links to U.S. weapons development is raising some eyebrows. I wonder how many more leading microbiologists need to get killed or die before we really start demanding to know what is really going on. List of Dead Scientists - 2003 and prior deaths List of Dead Scientists - 2004+ On 1/13/2005 Steve Quayle theorized that a group of people plan to unleash "the ultimate epidemic" on the planet and are trying to eliminate scientists who might successfully combat it.
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#6. To: Refinersfire (#0)
Rense.com has a large archive on it - postings by Dr. Henry Niman and Dr. (not M.D.) Patricia Doyle. At the top of the Headlines look immediately to the left for several articles.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#7. To: Refinersfire (#0)
one concern might be that someone show up at the door of the private residence of the heads of this hospital and relocate them to the bottom of the local river.
if she could provide PROOF to back our concern
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials.
Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
#8. To: Refinersfire (#0)
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#9. To: Eric Stratton (#8)
A hospital isn't going to let some silly nurse infect sick patients with a potentially deadly virus because she believes conspiracy theories she read on a message board. People in the hospital can easily die of the flu.
Otherwise, if for some reason she is forced to get the shot, to tell the hospital's administrator that she will hold him personally accountable for any negative side effects with full intentions of enforcing that if that's the way it's going to be.
#10. To: Refinersfire (#0)
What PROOF has been provided that the vaccine is safe? Where does this hospital plan to get their vaccine? This information is essential for your information query. Multiple companies are hopping on that gravy train. There is no conformity other than all companies requesting and garnering legal immunity for bad reactions, including death.
if she could provide PROOF to back our concern
#11. To: Rhino369 (#9)
so are you going to get the shot?
#12. To: abraxas (#10)
I like the way you think. You nailed it. .
What PROOF has been provided that the vaccine is safe? Where does this hospital plan to get their vaccine? This information is essential for your information query. Multiple companies are hopping on that gravy train. There is no conformity other than all companies requesting and garnering legal immunity for bad reactions, including death.
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#13. To: christine (#11)
If its cheap and available sure. If I worked with sick people or children, I would get it no matter what. The average person will has a good chance surviving it. A person with a preexisting illness is much more likely to die. Medical professionals need to be protected so they don't kill a bunch of old sick people.
so are you going to get the shot?
#14. To: Refinersfire (#0)
Here's some good technical information: WHO and mass vaccination fever The mass vaccination order has come from the World Health Organization (WHO) [8]. In early July 2009, a group of vaccination experts concluded that the pandemic is unstoppable, and Marie-Paul Kieny, WHO director on vaccine research said all nations will need access to vaccines, and that a vaccine should be available as early as September. Critics point out that the ‘vaccination experts’ are dominated by the vaccine makers standing to gain from the enormously lucrative vaccine and antiviral contracts awarded by governments. But the decisive argument against mass vaccinations is that flu shots simply don’t work and are dangerous [9]. Flu shots ineffective and increase risks of asthma There are widely acknowledged reasons why flu vaccines won’t work, as already pointed out with regard to the much touted vaccines against the ‘pandemic bird flu’ that has yet to materialize [10] (How to Stop Bird Flu Instead, SiS 35). The flu virus changes quickly – even without the help of genetic engineering in the laboratory, and especially with the help of the intensive livestock industry – whereas the vaccines target specific strains. Furthermore, flu vaccination does not give permanent protection, and must be repeated annually; the vaccines are difficult to mass-produce, and some strains won’t grow at all under laboratory conditions. Numerous studies have documented that flu shots give little or no protection against infection and illness, and there is no reason to believe that swine flu vaccines will be different. A review of 51 separate studies in 2006 concluded that flu vaccines worked no better than a placebo in 260 000 children ranging in age from six months to 23 months [11]. A report published in 2008 found flu vaccines in young children made no difference in the number of flu-related doctor and hospital visits [12]. On the other hand, a study of 800 children with asthma found that those receiving a flu vaccine had a significantly increased risk of asthma-related doctor and emergency room visits [13]; the odds ratios were 3.4 and 1.9 respectively. This was confirmed in a report published in 2009, which showed children with asthma who received FluMist had a 3-fold increased risk of hospitalization [14] Flu vaccines are equally useless for adults, including the elderly, giving little or no protection against infection or illnesses including pneumonia (see [9]). Toxic adjuvants in flu vaccines Vaccines themselves can be dangerous, especially live, attenuated viral vaccines or the new recombinant nucleic acid vaccines [10], they have the potential to generate virulent viruses by recombination and the recombinant nucleic acids could cause autoimmune diseases. A further major source of toxicity in the case of the flu vaccines are the adjuvants, substances added in order to boost the immunogenicity of the vaccines. There is a large literature on the toxicities of adjuvants. Most flu vaccines contain dangerous levels of mercury in the form of thimerosal, a deadly preservative 50 times more toxic than mercury itself [9]. At high enough doses, it can cause long-term immune, sensory, neurological, motor, and behavioural dysfunctions. Also associated with mercury poisoning are autism, attention deficit disorder, multiple sclerosis, and speech and language deficiencies. The Institute of Medicine has warned that infants, children, and pregnant women should not be injected with thimerosal, yet the majority of flu shots contain 25 micrograms of it. Another common adjuvant is alum or aluminium hydroxide, which can cause vaccine allergy, anaphylaxis, and macrophage myofascitis, a chronic inflammation syndrome, In cats, alum also gives rise to fibrosarcomas at the site of injection [15]. Numerous new adjuvants are no better, and could be worse. According to a recent review in a science and business pharmaceutical publication [15], most newer adjuvants including MF59, ISCOMS, QS21, AS02, and AS04 have “substantially higher local reactogenicity and systemic toxicity than alum.” Current status of swine flu vaccines Five different companies have been contracted to produce vaccines worldwide: Baxter International, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis and Sanofi-Aventis and AstroZeneca [16]. Already stretched beyond capacity, there is every intention to make smaller vaccine doses go further with a range of new adjuvants [17], with the blessing of the WHO (see later). Flu vaccines are traditionally produced from non-virulent (attenuated or weakened) influenza viruses (see Box for a description of the viruses). To be effective, the genes of the non- virulent virus used must match those of the viral strain spreading in the population. Activation of the immune system by exposure to the non pathogenic form of the circulating pathogenic strain leads to the production of antibodies that will confer protection against the pathogenic strain. Producing the non-virulent virus involves first identifying and then recreating the subtypes of two of the virus’s surface proteins, haemagglutinin (H) and neuraminidase (N), which determine the strain’s virulence and ability to spread, and are also the target proteins for vaccine production. Influenza viruses There are 3 types of influenza viruses, A, B and C. The influenza A type virus is the main one that cause diseases in birds and mammals. Its genome consists of 8 segments of RNA coding for 11 proteins, and the viruses are further classified by subtype on the basis of the two main surface glycoproteins (proteins with complex carbohydrate side chains): haemagglutinin (H) and neuraminidase (N) [18]. The segmented genome enables the virus to’ reassort’ (shuffle) segments as well as recombine within segments, thereby greatly increasing the rate of evolution and generation of new strains. Reassortment is also widely exploited in the laboratory in the process of creating vaccine strains. To-date, 16 H and 9 N subtypes have been detected in numerous combinations circulating in wild birds [19]. Seed viruses are first made to provide the starting material for large scale production of live non-virulent flu viruses. The seed viruses are approved by the WHO or the United States Food and Drug Administration (USFDA). The usual method of seed virus production is reassortment (see Box). Fertilized chicken eggs are injected with both a standard non-pathogenic influenza strain known to grow well in eggs and the strain that carries the genes expressing the desired vaccine H and N protein subtypes. The two viruses multiply, and their eight genome segments reassort with 256 possible combinations. The resulting recombinant viruses are then screened for the desired virus with the six genome segments that allow the standard strain to grow so well in eggs and the H and N genes from the circulating strain. The seed virus is then injected into millions of eggs for mass production of vaccine. This conventional method of seed stock production takes about one to two months to complete [20]. Cell culture systems may eventually replace chicken eggs. Baxter International applied for a patent on a process using cell culture to produce quantities of infecting virus, which are harvested, inactivated with formaldehyde and ultraviolet light, and then detergent [21]. Baxter has produced H5N1 whole virus vaccines in a Vero cell line derived from the kidney of an African green monkey, and conducted phase 1 and 2 clinical trials with and without aluminium hydroxide as adjuvant [22, 23]. The main finding was that the toxic adjuvant did not increase neutralising antibodies against the vaccine strain. Baxter has agreed to ship H1N1 vaccine by the end of July or early August 2009 but details of the production of that vaccine have not yet been released to the public [16]. In December, a Baxter facility in Austria sent a human flu vaccine contaminated with the deadly H5N1 live avian flu virus to 18 countries, including the Czech Republic, where testing showed it killed the ferrets inoculated [24]. Czech newspapers questioned whether Baxter was involved in a deliberate attempt to start a pandemic. Novartis, another big pharma, announced on 13 June that it, too, has produced a swine flu vaccine using cell-based technology and the proprietary adjuvant MF59®. The MF59® adjuvant is oil based and contains Tween80, Span85, and squalene [25]. In studies of oil-based adjuvants in rats, the animals were rendered crippled and paralyzed. Squalene brought on severe arthritis symptoms in rats, and studies in humans given from 10 to 20 ppb (parts per billion) of squalene showed severe immune system impact and development of autoimmune disorders [26]. Novartis was in the news in 2008 for a clinical trial of a H5N1 vaccine in Poland. The trial was administered by local nurses and doctors who gave the vaccine to 350 homeless people, leaving 21 died; and were prosecuted by the Polish police [27, 28]. Novartis claimed the deaths were unrelated to the H5N1 vaccine [29], which had been “tested on 3500 other people without any deaths.” GlaxoSmithKline’s vaccine will be made up of antigens of the recently isolated influenza strain, and also contains its own proprietary adjuvant system AS03 that has been approved in the EU along with its H5N1 bird flu vaccine in 2008. According to the European Public Assessment Report [30], AS03 adjuvant is composed of squalene (10.68 milligrams), DL-a-tocopherol (11.86 milligrams) and polysorbate 80 (4.85 milligrams). The H5N1 vaccine also contains 5 micrograms thiomersal, as well as Polysorbate 80, Octoxynol 10, and various inorganic salts. The company is aggressively promoting various adjuvant systems as its ‘adjuvant advantage’ that reduces the dose of vaccines [31]. A recent WHO survey of primary vaccine producers concluded that the potential output of 4.9 Billion doses of H1N1 vaccine per year is a best-case scenario, assuming among other factors that the most dose-sparing formulation (that will include toxic adjuvants) be selected by each manufacturer and that production will take place at full capacity. WHO Director-General, Dr .Margaret Chan, and the United Nations Secretary-General, Mr Ban Ki-moon, met with senior officials of vaccine manufacturers on 19 May and asked them to reserve part of their production capacity for poor countries that would otherwise have no or little access to vaccine in the case of a pandemic [32]. The last mass-vaccination in the US was a disaster. In 1976, cases of swine flu were found in soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey, and one of them died, most likely of physical overexertion rather than from the infection [7]. This led to the launch of a mass vaccination of 40 million against a pandemic that never materialized. Thousands filed claims for injury. At least 25 died and 500 developed paralyzing Guillain-Barre syndrome [33, 34]. Swine flu syndromes mostly mild As of 22 July 2009, the CDC listed a total of 40 617 cases in the US, with 319 fatalities, giving a fatalites/case ratio of 0.8 percent [35]; though the real death rate – among all cases of infection including the mild ones that go unreported – is probably much lower. Experts estimate that only 1 out of 20 cases are reported [36]. The UK is the worst affected European country, and the pandemic is in the headlines everyday in July. A new telephone helpline was set up on 23 July to let people get advice and tamiflu without seeing a doctor. In that week, there has been a record rise in cases to 100 000 and a total of 30 deaths so far [37], giving a fatalities/case ratio of 0.03 percent, a more accurate reflection of the actual death rate. UK’s chief medical officer Sir Liam Donaldson has ordered the NHS to plan for as many as 65 000 deaths, with 350 a day at the peak [38]. There has been no plan as yet for mass vaccination; but the UK government has advance orders for 195 million doses of vaccine with GlaxoSmithKline (GSK). The vaccine that GSK is developing will be tested on a limited number of people as the UK drug company reportedly [39] “weighs the pandemic danger against the risks of an unsafe shot.” This was criticized as “risky” by Prof. Hugh Pennington, a retired microbiologist at the University of Aberdeen, Scotland. “By limiting clinical trials, Glaxo raises the danger that the vaccine dose isn’t properly calibrated, and could lead to shots that don’t protect people from the virus or at worse are unsafe,” Pennington said. Pennington added that the shot’s ability to trigger the body’s defences is crucial and requires tests to determine the best dose and whether an adjuvant is needed to bolster the immunity. (As we know, GSK is definitely promoting its new range of toxic adjuvants.) He also referred to the Fort Dix incident in 1976 (see earlier). France has ordered vaccines from Sanofi, GSK and Novartis, but sees no reason to ask vaccine makers to shorten or skip clinical trials [16]. Sanofi-Aventis, the French drug maker developing its own swine flu vaccine will begin testing the product in early August, and estimates it will need as much as two and a half months of tests before having a shot that’s “both safe and protective”, according to Albert Garcia, speaking for the company’s vaccine unit, “the vaccine will be ready in November or December, he said. Source also has a pdf written by experts that aren't bought and paid for by Big Pharma, which provides the buld of sites in this summation: http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=1031
#15. To: All (#0)
Thank you all, for your time and effort.. I an printing as much as I can, for her to look over and hopefully come up with, a plan to overcome their actions.. again, I am so grateful for your efforts on this.. :-)
#16. To: Rhino369, Eric Stratton, christine (#9)
Listen.. you and I have had our debates in the past.. but my wife, in your eyes, is off limits.. She has trained at John Hopkins and the Mayo Clinic, along with many other Cancer Centers.. and wishes to protect herself from what may be, a very dangerous drug, just like she does, with all Cancer Treatments, she handles.. Again, my wife is off limits to you.. end of story.. (Christine.. I pinged you to my post, as I want to make sure, that you see what I am writing here.. I know you understand why..)
some silly nurse
#17. To: Refinersfire (#16) (Edited)
By believing conspiracy theories about vaccines, especially when she is medically educated, she is behaving silly. I shouldn't have called her silly, but I should have said she is acting silly in this instance. One instance of silly, doesn't make a person silly, especially since we all do stupid things. So I should not have used that phrase. How would your wife like to kill a cancer patient with a weakened immune system because she read a bunch of wacko right wing paranoia about vaccines? I bet it would cause her immense anguish if that happened. Have her talk to Doctors who know what they are talking about before believing a word prison planet, natural news (a Luddite site), and a bunch of other conspiracy sites. I'm sorry for insulting your wife.
#18. To: Refinersfire (#0)
Refinersfire, Have your wife find out if the American version of this vaccine will contain Squalene as the European version does. Also, find out if it will contain any Thimerosal, Mercury or Aluminum? Can she get this in writing if it does not? Tell them she is allergic (which I think all of our bodies are) to these items mentioned. http://www.soundwaves2000.com/radio_liberty/ There are some very interesting talks regarding the shot some by doctors on One was done on the 8/4 show. I know there have been discussions since then I just don't see the title. Best wishes for you and your wife. Please let us know what happens.
#19. To: MiracleRose7 (#18)
thanks for your contribution, Rose, and welcome to 4um.
#20. To: Rhino369 (#13)
If I worked with sick people or children, I would get it no matter what. Are you on dope ?
If its cheap and available sure.
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.
#21. To: christine (#19)
Your welcome! I registered a while back as Miraclerose but I forgot my password. I have been lurking and a few times felt like posting but could not so I registered under Miraclerose7. It is nice to be able to post again.
#22. To: MiracleRose7 (#21)
i could have reset your password, so if it happens again, email me. ;)
#23. To: Refinersfire (#0)
Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter's Vaccine Mar 3, 2009 ... Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries. www.naturalnews.com/025760.html News: DVC and Baxter Granted $201.2M for Flu Vaccine Development. The HHS awarded DynPort Vaccine (DVC) and Baxter $201.2 million to develop Baxter's ... Crucell Wins $40.7M NIAID Contract to Develop Human Flu mAbs ... www.genengnews.com/news/b...e=27247758&source=genwire Baxter signs Austrian flu vaccine contract Nov 23, 2006 ... This new contract for Baxter comes days after the US government signed contracts ... GEA wins €15m order from China's Hisun Pharmaceutical ... www.in-pharmatechnologist...rian-flu-vaccine-contract
#24. To: Rhino369 (#17)
Vioxx, and numerous other things show that trusting the FDA is silly!
By believing conspiracy theories about vaccines, especially when she is medically educated, she is behaving silly.
#25. To: christine (#22)
I attempted to e-mail you on two different occasions. I do not know if the e-mail for some reason did not go through. Oh well it is all good now!
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