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Title: Did Hitler Want War?
Source: Anti War.com
URL Source: http://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2009/08/31/did-hitler-want-war/
Published: Sep 1, 2009
Author: PJB
Post Date: 2009-09-01 20:48:44 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 176
Comments: 9

On Sept. 1, 1939, 70 years ago, the German Army crossed the Polish frontier. On Sept. 3, Britain declared war.

Six years later, 50 million Christians and Jews had perished. Britain was broken and bankrupt, Germany a smoldering ruin. Europe had served as the site of the most murderous combat known to man, and civilians had suffered worse horrors than the soldiers.

By May 1945, Red Army hordes occupied all the great capitals of Central Europe: Vienna, Prague, Budapest, Berlin. A hundred million Christians were under the heel of the most barbarous tyranny in history: the Bolshevik regime of the greatest terrorist of them all, Joseph Stalin.

What cause could justify such sacrifices?

The German-Polish war had come out of a quarrel over a town the size of Ocean City, Md., in summer. Danzig, 95 percent German, had been severed from Germany at Versailles in violation of Woodrow Wilson’s principle of self-determination. Even British leaders thought Danzig should be returned.

Why did Warsaw not negotiate with Berlin, which was hinting at an offer of compensatory territory in Slovakia? Because the Poles had a war guarantee from Britain that, should Germany attack, Britain and her empire would come to Poland’s rescue.

But why would Britain hand an unsolicited war guarantee to a junta of Polish colonels, giving them the power to drag Britain into a second war with the most powerful nation in Europe?

Was Danzig worth a war? Unlike the 7 million Hong Kongese whom the British surrendered to Beijing, who didn’t want to go, the Danzigers were clamoring to return to Germany.

Comes the response: The war guarantee was not about Danzig, or even about Poland. It was about the moral and strategic imperative “to stop Hitler” after he showed, by tearing up the Munich pact and Czechoslovakia with it, that he was out to conquer the world. And this Nazi beast could not be allowed to do that.

If true, a fair point. Americans, after all, were prepared to use atom bombs to keep the Red Army from the Channel. But where is the evidence that Adolf Hitler, whose victims as of March 1939 were a fraction of Gen. Pinochet’s, or Fidel Castro’s, was out to conquer the world?

After Munich in 1938, Czechoslovakia did indeed crumble and come apart. Yet consider what became of its parts.

The Sudeten Germans were returned to German rule, as they wished. Poland had annexed the tiny disputed region of Teschen, where thousands of Poles lived. Hungary’s ancestral lands in the south of Slovakia had been returned to her. The Slovaks had their full independence guaranteed by Germany. As for the Czechs, they came to Berlin for the same deal as the Slovaks, but Hitler insisted they accept a protectorate.

Now one may despise what was done, but how did this partition of Czechoslovakia manifest a Hitlerian drive for world conquest?

Comes the reply: If Britain had not given the war guarantee and gone to war, after Czechoslovakia would have come Poland’s turn, then Russia’s, then France’s, then Britain’s, then the United States.

We would all be speaking German now.

But if Hitler was out to conquer the world – Britain, Africa, the Middle East, the United States, Canada, South America, India, Asia, Australia – why did he spend three years building that hugely expensive Siegfried Line to protect Germany from France? Why did he start the war with no surface fleet, no troop transports, and only 29 oceangoing submarines? How do you conquer the world with a navy that can’t get out of the Baltic Sea?

If Hitler wanted the world, why did he not build strategic bombers, instead of two-engine Dorniers and Heinkels that could not even reach Britain from Germany?

Why did he let the British army go at Dunkirk?

Why did he offer the British peace, twice, after Poland fell, and again after France fell?

Why, when Paris fell, did Hitler not demand the French fleet, as the Allies demanded and got the Kaiser’s fleet? Why did he not demand bases in French-controlled Syria to attack Suez? Why did he beg Benito Mussolini not to attack Greece?

Because Hitler wanted to end the war in 1940, almost two years before the trains began to roll to the camps.

Hitler had never wanted war with Poland, but an alliance with Poland such as he had with Francisco Franco’s Spain, Mussolini’s Italy, Miklos Horthy’s Hungary, and Father Jozef Tiso’s Slovakia.

Indeed, why would he want war when, by 1939, he was surrounded by allied, friendly, or neutral neighbors, save France? And he had written off Alsace, because reconquering Alsace meant war with France, and that meant war with Britain, whose empire he admired and whom he had always sought as an ally.

As of March 1939, Hitler did not even have a border with Russia. How then could he invade Russia?

Winston Churchill was right when he called it “The Unnecessary War” – the war that may yet prove the mortal blow to our civilization.

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

Did Hitler Want War?

I'm trying to figure out exactly why we should care.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-09-01   21:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#0)

Was Danzig worth a war?

Yes.

But he made up for it with Jaguar God.

Anti-racism is code for white genocide

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-01   23:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#1)

I'm trying to figure out exactly why we should care.

Only if you care about how the little kiddies in the pubric skools are brainwashed on the subject. But there's no reason you have to. It's a contingent 'should' -- as all 'shoulds' ultimately are.

Anti-racism is code for white genocide

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-01   23:11:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: X-15 (#0)

Have you read the book? Personally I think it rocks.

Anti-racism is code for white genocide

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-01   23:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#1) (Edited)

I've learned from long and bitter experience that it is utterly useless to discuss Hitler or World War Two in any kind of a factual, or objective way with 99.9% of the population. Seventy years of non-stop propaganda have turned that whole era into a two-dimensional cartoon. It's utterly hopeless to discuss anything about what happened during that time, because the propaganda has created a wholly unassailable cartoon image of that era, and here's the particulars:

Hitler was Satan incarnate.
The Germans were Evil incarnate.
The Allies were Good incarnate.
And the whole reason for the war was to save the eternally put-upon Jews from the evils of the Holocaust.

That's pretty much it. And no amount of research or factual history or evidence or anything short of a massive de-programming effort rivaling the total expenditures of the New Deal, the War on Poverty, the War on Drugs, the Space Program and every war since Korea COMBINED will go exactly nowhere. The programming is thorough and complete. Any effort to educate the sheeple is utterly wasted.

The moral of the story? Propaganda will ALWAYS trump truth, provided it is totally widespread, utterly unrelenting and never-ending. Something to keep in mind for future reference. Truth is absolutely helpless in the face of unrelenting state-powered propaganda.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2009-09-01   23:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Elliott Jackalope (#5)

Truth is absolutely helpless in the face of unrelenting state-powered propaganda.

This state of affairs may be slowly changing for the better. For some strange reason the people are being reminded more and more frequently by unexpected 'outings' of the corruption and deception which are threatening the well being of the inhabitants of planet Earth.

I believe we're just beginning to enter that much anticipated time when 'the darkness' gives way to the light and all is finally made known. Doesn't it seem like the ultra wealthy are getting ever more desperate with their plan to achieve total control?

SCPO Blackshoe Retired  posted on  2009-09-02   2:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Elliott Jackalope (#5)

Hitler was Satan incarnate. The Germans were Evil incarnate. The Allies were Good incarnate. And the whole reason for the war was to save the eternally put-upon Jews from the evils of the Holocaust.

Ah, you've discovered that America loves Jesus and Hitler.

Discussion does seem kind of pointless.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-09-02   10:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#0)

MSNBC reacts after NJDC attack on Buchanan

By Eric Fingerhut · September 3, 2009

The National Jewish Democratic Council attacked MSNBC, the cable darling of the left -- and got results.

MSNBC.com has taken down a column by Pat Buchanan entitled "Did Hitler Want War?" from its Web site (here's the page with the column no longer posted) in which the MSNBC commentator argues that "Hitler wanted to end the war in 1940, almost two years before the trains began to roll to the camps" and blames World War II on Poland and Great Britain.

"Buchanan has a long history of insensitivity when it comes to issues surrounding the Holocaust, and he has taken the 70th anniversary of the start of World War II as an opportunity to voice these opinions once again," said NJDC president David Harris before the column was taken down.

In a statement after MSNBC removed it, Harris noted, as he did in his first statement, that MSNBC should reconsider the platform it gives Buchanan on its network.

"MSNBC took the responsible action and removed Pat Buchanan's column defending Adolf Hitler from their website, but no worthy news organization should employ and promote a commentator who engages in such vile fiction," said Harris.

Source: http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2009/09/03/1007645/msnbc-reacts- after-njdc-attack-on-buchanan

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-09-04   3:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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NJDC to MSNBC: Stop Promoting Buchanan’s Hitler Defense

David A. Harris, President of the National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC), released the following statement:

NJDC condemns MSNBC conservative commentator and former Republican presidential candidate Pat Buchanan’s recent column, “Did Hitler Want War,” in defense of Adolf Hilter’s actions in World War II. It is particularly disturbing that MSNBC is promoting this column on MSNBC.com.

Buchanan has a long history of insensitivity when it comes to issues surrounding the Holocaust, and he has taken the 70th anniversary of the start of World War II as an opportunity to voice these opinions once again.

This sort of historical revisionism is deplorable. Buchanan’s latest column should be removed immediately from MSNBC.com, and no worthy news organization should employ a commentator who engages in such vile fiction. The Constitution protects Buchanan’s right to say whatever he wants, but it does not require MSNBC or any other network to provide a prominent platform for such drivel.

Source: www.njdc.org/bl og/post/MSNBCStopPromotHitler090309

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-09-04   3:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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