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Title: EPA to declare CO2 a dangerous pollutant
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URL Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic ... /c/a/2009/08/31/MNM219GIJD.DTL
Published: Sep 2, 2009
Author: Jennifer A. Dlouhy
Post Date: 2009-09-02 23:41:29 by christine
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Carbon dioxide will soon be declared a dangerous pollutant - a move that could help propel slow-moving climate-change legislation on Capitol Hill, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency said Monday. EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson told reporters that a formal "endangerment finding," which would trigger federal regulations on greenhouse gas emissions, probably would "happen in the next months." Jackson announced her timeline even as top senators said they were delaying plans to introduce legislation that would set new limits on carbon dioxide emissions. Senators had been scheduled to unveil legislation next Tuesday, but the date has now been pushed back to later in September. The House narrowly passed a broad energy and climate-change bill in June, but supporters have moved more slowly in the Senate, where the issue has been trumped recently by work on the health care overhaul. The EPA kick-started the regulatory process in April when it proposed declaring carbon dioxide and five other greenhouse gases as pollutants that jeopardize the public health and welfare. EPA scientists believe the greenhouse gases contribute to global warming by trapping heat in the Earth's atmosphere. The EPA can formalize the finding anytime, now that it has closed a 60-day public comment period that netted more than 300,000 responses. A formal endangerment finding would obligate the agency to regulate greenhouse gas pollution under the Clean Air Act - even if Congress doesn't pass a final climate-change bill. President Obama and Jackson have said they would prefer that Congress - rather than the EPA - take the lead in implementing new greenhouse gas limits. Businesses and energy industry leaders also have largely favored congressional action over EPA-imposed limits, because they believe lawmakers are better positioned to combine economic safeguards with any new carbon cap. "Legislation is so important, because it will combine the most efficient, most economy-wide, least costly (and) least disruptive way to deal with carbon dioxide pollution," Jackson said. "We get further faster without top-down regulation." But Jackson insisted the EPA would continue on a path that began when the Supreme Court ruled in 2007 that greenhouse gases qualified as pollutants and could be regulated if the government determined they threatened the public. "Two years is a long time for this country to wait for us to respond to the Supreme Court's ruling," Jackson said. Supporters of climate change legislation are hoping the threat of EPA-mandated limits will spur congressional action. Sens. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., and John Kerry, D-Mass., had been planning to introduce their own climate change bill next week. But in a joint statement Monday, the pair said they were delaying the bill introduction until "later in September" because of the death of Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., Kerry's hip surgery in August, and Kerry's membership on the Finance Committee, which is negotiating health care. Sen. James Inhofe of Oklahoma, the top Republican on Boxer's Environment and Public Works Committee, said the delay "is emblematic of the division and disarray in the Democratic Party over cap-and-trade and health care legislation."
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#1. To: christine, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)
Let's ban dihydrogen monoxide while we are at it.
The atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 0.9% argon, and 0.03% carbon dioxide. I guess I'll be exhaling a "dangerous pollutant" then. ------- These "experts" are the same people that told 1st responders in New York that the air wasn't dangerous.
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.
Good point. Where are we at now - about 80% of them having or dying from lung disease from breathing the air at Ground Zero?
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
LOL !
There is a war being waged upon Americans by the Federal (reserve bank) Government that most haven't perceived even though almost all have been wounded !
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.
There is a war being waged upon Americans by the Federal (reserve bank) Government that most haven't perceived even though almost all have been wounded ! You have to look higher than the Fed. The Fed is merely a tool - which is owned through the back door by the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, and the rest of the "usual suspects". At this point their tentacles are so pervasive, and reach into so many aspects of our lives, that its presence eludes most people - they are unwilling, or unable, to think on the scale of this criminal enterprise. Of course some of that inability to look and see is the result of several generations of Psychiatric conditioning through the media etc., .... "Conspiracies don't exist." If you point out obvious connections the trained and conditioned response is "that's just a crazy 'conspiracy theory'". That message is continually pumped throughout the media to shut down people's analytic awareness and their ability to "see". I could spend an hour just outlining some of the connections, and methods, and still have not done more than outline it at its most basic levels. I am half tempted, now that you have me thinking about it, of trying to master the material well enough to give a good summary laying out the basics. Most on this forum are aware of it to some degree but the basics, so far as I know, are not laid out anywhere in a document short enough to hand to someone not already initiated in the basic facts.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
That's why I say ... There ain't no bad targets !!!
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.
That would be a great public service, O_I
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#2. To: christine (#0)
Carbon dioxide will soon be declared a dangerous pollutant
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#3. To: christine (#0)
There is 30X more argon than CO2.
What planet to those people live on. Not this one.
Perhaps I'll have to haul my hairy ass in for a government emissions check. You never know, I might be exhaling too much and killing polor bears.
"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.
#4. To: christine (#0)
#5. To: noone222 (#4)
These "experts" are the same people that told 1st responders in New York that the air wasn't dangerous.
#6. To: christine (#0)
World Gone Completely Insane
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#7. To: Original_Intent (#5)
Where are we at now - about 80% of them having or dying from lung disease from breathing the air at Ground Zero?
#8. To: noone222 (#7)
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Where are we at now - about 80% of them having or dying from lung disease from breathing the air at Ground Zero?
#9. To: Original_Intent (#8)
At this point their tentacles are so pervasive, and reach into so many aspects of our lives, that its presence eludes most people - they are unwilling, or unable, to think on the scale of this criminal enterprise.
#10. To: Original_Intent (#8)
I am half tempted, now that you have me thinking about it, of trying to master the material well enough to give a good summary laying out the basics.
Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when that card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ashes of the totalitarian game!
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