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Neocon Nuttery See other Neocon Nuttery Articles Title: The "Intolerance" Party? GOP Strategists Worry Ideologues Are Bad For The Party's Future A major rift has emerged within the Republican Party. On one side: Ideologues who are inciting the base with wild rhetoric and banking on a "great American awakening" that will sweep conservatives back into power. On the other: Strategists, who see the party's growing intolerance as a prescription for minority status. So far, the ideologues are winning. "Nobody helps the cause when they use name-calling instead of substantial criticism," says strategist Charlie Black, a senior adviser to almost every Republican presidential campaign since Ronald Reagan first ran. But name-calling and demagoguery are the hallmarks of the movement conservatives and media celebrities like Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, who are increasingly being viewed as dominant forces in the modern GOP. Palin's allegation that Obamacare would result in creation of government "death panels" has been widely criticized within her own party. Republican strategist Whit Ayres, who is no fan of the Democratic health care plan, noted: "Wildly inappropriate comments hurt the argument that the comments are supposed to support." As early as last October, conservative New York Times columnist David Brooks called Palin "a fatal cancer on the Republican Party," and George F. Will, a voice of the Republican establishment, dismissed the former Alaska governor as "an inveterate simplifier." On July 28, Glenn Beck asserted on Fox News that Obama has "a deep hatred for the white people or the white culture...This guy, I believe, is a racist." And Rush Limbaugh -- not one to moderate his rhetoric - spent part of his August 6 broadcast discussing "the similarities between the Democrat Party of today and the Nazi party in Germany." Alex Castellanos, strategist and media consultant to George W. Bush's presidential campaigns and to Mitt Romney, said, "We have a case to make and sometimes I think we draw more attention to the battle than to the message." Despite this intra-party struggle, there is one area of common ground: Both the strategic and ideological factions are convinced that the outspoken public opposition to the Obama health care plan voiced at House and Senate town halls during the August recess has been highly advantageous to the GOP. Conservative radio and television hosts have fanned the flames of protest but professional Republican operatives -- some of whom initially voiced concerns that the expressions of intense anger might backfire - are now on board. The town hall forums on health care "have been a huge benefit," said Castellanos. "This has gone far beyond the base of Republican activists." Charlie Black, in turn, argued that "people who don't normally get involved are looking at the news stories and getting involved" in the health care debate. Ayres warned "incivility almost never helps," but added, "energy and passion go a long way toward furthering an argument. The town halls really raised serious doubts about the health care plan, and intensity matters in politics." * * * The split between Republican ideologues and strategists has deep roots. Many GOP operatives, consultants, and tacticians believe the party will be relegated to enduring minority status unless elected officials aggressively tone down and reach out: Tone down the hard-edged stands on such issues as gay marriage and abortion to avoid alienating socially liberal young voters; And reach out to minorities, specifically to Hispanics, once immigration returns to the front burner. Party professionals, in stark contrast to movement conservatives, argue for the necessity of a version of immigration reform which makes possible -- at least for some -- a "path" to citizenship. "How about we actually look at ourselves as an ordinary, non-political business, selling a commercial product?" asks Republican consultant Bill Greener, founder of Greener & Hook. Citing the strength of Democrats among growing minority groups -- and the continuing Republican dependence on white support when the share of the electorate that is white is declining -- Greener poses the question, "Who would ever start down a path that essentially said that we will be strong in all the declining markets while we let our only significant competition be strong among the emerging and growing markets? Unless North Dakota suddenly gets 54 electoral votes, would someone please show me another way for Republicans to realistically conclude we can compete at the national level?" On the "movement" side, social and fiscal conservatives are convinced that Democratic successes in 2006 and 2008 were aberrant -- caused by Republican wavering on core principals and the party's deviation from a hard line. In their view, the only change that is needed is the restoration of backbone. Democrats, they believe, will run aground on the shoals of reckless spending and failed "social engineering" -- giving the GOP renewed legitimacy. This struggle has played out in the past in primary challenges to moderate Republicans from candidates aligned with the conservative Club for Growth. The current Republican conflict will be on center stage in the 2010 Texas Republican gubernatorial primary. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, a centrist Republican, has announced that she will take on incumbent governor Rick Perry, a movement conservative. "I do not want a governor who is going to narrow our base, make it dwindle," Hutchison told Texas voters. "I will work to build the Republican Party, not make it narrower." Perry, who has strong support from the far right of the party, countered: "it's a fight between a real, proven conservative and one who is not so conservative." The power of movement conservatives has created major political problems in the home districts of Republican moderates. In 2005, then-Rep. Chris Shays, a Connecticut Republican, complained bitterly that the "Republican Party of Lincoln has become a party of theocracy." Although the strategic wing of the party is currently challenging the hard right, those challenges still remain well within the bounds of Republican orthodoxy. One of the most outspoken GOP strategists is Tom Doherty, a partner with John McCain's campaign manager Steve Schmidt in the firm Mercury Public Affairs. Doherty notes that some in the party are convinced that appealing to blacks, Hispanics and gays "somehow means you are giving up our party principles." Conservative author and public relations guru Craig Shirley offers a more elaborate variation: "This period of 2009 reminds me greatly of 1977-78. The GOP was feckless, moribund and still attempting to shed Nixonism, as it now is attempting to shed itself of Bushism. A vacuum developed then as now; the conservative movement led to fill it just as it is now. Then, the conservatives led on opposition to the Panama Canal Treaties, SALT II, ERA, high taxes, the Departments of Energy and Education, etc. Jimmy Carter tried to do too much, as Obama now is." For elected Republicans, the split between the ideologues and the tacticians/strategists poses a major dilemma. In private conversation, many side with the strategists, but are unwilling to publicly offend the core of their party -- the primary voters, the donors, the talkers, and the workhorses -- by publicly arguing that, health care aside, the growth of the Hispanic electorate, the strong tilt of young voters toward the Democratic Party, and the rise of a socially liberal, professional "new" class require change in both substantive policy and rhetoric. The dangers facing elected Republicans who share the views of the strategists are reflected in the firestorm that hit Georgia Republican Congressman Phil Gingrey when he had the temerity to confront Limbaugh: "It's easy if you're Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh or even sometimes Newt Gingrich to stand back and throw bricks. You don't have to try to do what's best for your people and your party. You know you're just on these talk shows and you're living well and plus you stir up a bit of controversy and gin the base and that sort of thing," Gingrey said. On April 30, Republican House Whip Eric Cantor (Va.), top House and Senate leaders, and potential presidential candidates such as Mitt Romney, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal formed the National Council for a New America (NCNA) designed to be "the foundation of a concerted, policy-based forum to listen to, partner with, and empower the American people with ideas and solutions that speak directly to the needs of our great nation." Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest
#1. To: Brian S (#0)
Whose job is to lose politely
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
There is nothing wrong with intolerance per se. It's about time the Republican party became intolerant of socialism, "rino's", deficit spending, the "nanny state", and less freedom.
------- There are more Independents than there are democrats or republicans. Many of those still claiming to be dems or reps are leaning towards becoming an Independent as the parties continue to push their agendas against the will of the people. The republicans were able to fool their constituents into voting for Bush twice after another lackluster campaign between two skull and boners. The result is Obubba and all of this fakery is planned to deprive people of a real choice intentionally by the leadership of both parties. The big problem for both parties is that finally the people are awakening to the uselessness of electing anyone from either of the mainstream parties but more interestingly to me is the fact that people are seeing the ridiculous federal imposition for the actual harm it's doing to the nation. The question is whether the people will create a completely independent political organization to replace that which currently imposes its will on them or will they withdraw from the all intrusive federal monstrosity and keep their politics local ? You couldn't get me to support any of these usurpers of freedom. Truly independent people find politics difficult because an honest appraisal of the political animal turns out to be a scraggly, drunken dog licking its own balls looking in the cats bowl for food to steal.
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.
A point upon which she has been proven, in light of further analysis, essentially correct. Obamacare® would use a calculus based on Rahm Emmanuel's brother's "Life Curve". Slaves in their productive prime would be given more than those who are judged unworthy. Essentially care would be rationed and denied to the very young and very old. "A rose by any other name still smells the same." The reality is that when the Republican's have run on true conservative/libertarian platforms and issues they have won and in '92 they won BIG despite the eventual betrayal by Gingrich and the Republican leadership which then frittered away the advantage by selling out. Of course the controlled media played a big role in that by distorting the issues and misrepresenting them. Bush was a pawn of the Rockefeller/Globalist/Bankster wing of the party which is represented by the so called, from the liberal point of view, "reasonable" Republicans (they lose elections so they are "reasonable"). As for that all purpose whipping boy and Judas Goat "With Talent on Loan from Drugs", the Mahajunkie, a.k.a. "Pills" Limbaugh he is no more representative of true conservative thought than was Ted Kennedy. Limbuggerer is a paid whore who dances to the tune his master dictate and is paid off with a salary that is likely in excess of the advertising revenue generated by his show. So, why would he be paid more than the revenue generated by his program - he delivers his segment of the Rockefeller Wing of the party while blathering on about how conservative NeoConservatism is while doubletalking his way around the reality that he is pushing Neoconservativism (Trotskyism in a Gray Flannel Suit). Strategists regardless of which party you are talking about are paid milquetoasts who have about as much conviction as a whore for her latest "john". They are professional wafflers who have no solid principles that are not negotiable and are ultimately rudderless therefrom.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
What a fucking mess !! Anyone else ready to shoot their way out yet ? Get ready...there is a solution on the horizon and nobody is going to like it. Kind of like ipecac; no one likes it, but it works and works and works. Tree of Liberty tagline bump
The first thing we need to do is liquidate all the partisans. I'm fine with Commie RATS first, eh B.S. ???
Yes, it is near time to nourish it.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
It's hard to take anyone seriously who quotes David Brooks and George Will. On top of that, fuck the Republicrat Party. Alex Castellanos, strategist and media consultant to George W. Bush's presidential campaigns and to Mitt Romney, said, "We have a case to make and sometimes I think we draw more attention to the battle than to the message." You made your case for eight years. That case was big government and collectivism. I'm not interested in whatever case you are trying to make because it is a lie Mr. Castellanos. You bring nothing new to the table but the same ol' sam ol.' Your party and the Democan Party are a danger to this country and its people. Both parties need to be completely destroyed.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 19731976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
I have to admire your ability to avoid cynicism.
Try '94.
I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man. - Sam Houston
When I see a title of an article using the word intolerant posted by an Obama supporter and voter, it isn't worth my time and effort to read it.
George H.W. Bush once called the "two-party system" of the U.S. "sacred." David Rockefeller, G.H.W.'s mentor, sent his agents to see Ross Perot in the summer of 1992 to let the latter know he would be "sacrificed" as a sacred burnt offering to appease the jealous two-party system god. Perot then "dropped out" for a while, only to come back a few months later to make a half-hearted finish to what he'd started. At the time Rocky got to him, he was leading in the polls.
I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man. - Sam Houston
I do my utmost best !
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.
I think I'll tolerate my wife tonight. She deserves it.
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
How did their boy McCain fair in the last Presidential election, these Strategists, I wonder? Oh, that's right, rank and file Republicans were running from him as fast as they could. To advocate something positive you have to reject the opposing view (which would mean, rejecting what you know is wrong). If this is intolerance, then I think we all need a bit more of it in our lives. We've been lorded over by "strategic pragmatists" for nigh on fifty years and all it has bought us is a society so unfree as to leave the common man practically in chains from nose to toes these days. When you go in pre-compromised and without ideals, then it's a guarantee that evil will win.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
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