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Title: Independent Investigation Into Pentagon Attack Yields Alarming Information
Source: http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2009/08/30/in
URL Source: [None]
Published: Aug 30, 2009
Author: PRLog
Post Date: 2009-09-03 23:06:04 by rack42
Keywords: 911, Pentagon
Views: 510
Comments: 53

Researchers present new eyewitness testimony which they say proves the government's story to be a "monstrous lie"

A three year independent investigation into the September 11, 2001 attack on the Pentagon has yielded new eyewitness evidence which, according to the Southern California-based researchers who conducted the investigation, "conclusively (and unfortunately) establishes as a historical fact that the violence which took place in Arlington that day was not the result of a surprise attack by suicide hijackers, but rather a military black operation involving a carefully planned and skillfully executed deception."

They have compiled the most pertinent testimony into an 81 minute video presentation entitled National Security Alert, which has earned the respect and praise of a growing number of distinguished academics, journalists, writers, entertainers, pilots, and military personnel.

The investigation involved multiple trips to the scene of the crime in Arlington, Virginia, close scrutiny of all official and unofficial data related to the event, and, most importantly, first-person interviews with dozens of eyewitnesses, many of which were conducted and filmed in the exact locations from which they witnessed the plane that allegedly struck the building that day. It was primarily conducted by two men named Craig Ranke and Aldo Marquis, also known as Citizen Investigation Team, or CIT.

"There were a growing number of people in the United States and around the world who were suspicious of the government's story about what had happened at the Pentagon that day," Ranke explains. "The doubts were initially fueled by the dubious damage to the building, which seemed incompatible with a 757 crash, the deliberate lack of transparency by the authorities, and many other issues, but they really intensified after a team of professional pilots (Pilots for 9/11 Truth) analyzed the data obtained from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) via a Freedom of Information Act request in 2006, which was supposedly from the black box of American Airlines Flight 77, and found that the last reported altitude of the plane was far too high to have struck the light poles or the building. This meant that either the plane did not cause the observed physical damage, that the government had released fraudulent data, or both."

"We were tired of the cover-up, but we were also frustrated with the dead-end theorizing that was taking place", says Marquis of the project's genesis. "We knew that the only way we were ever going to know what had really happened was if we actually went to the area, knocked on doors, and interviewed everyday people about what they saw."

NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT from Citizen Investigation Team on Vimeo.

When these eyewitness accounts are aggregated, they paint a very disturbing picture, say the researchers.

"To put it as concisely as possible, the plane had to have flown on a very specific flight path in the final seconds before it reached the Pentagon in order to have caused the observed damage, starting with the light poles that were photographed on the ground and ending with the directional damage to the building itself which was outlined in detail by the American Society of Civil Engineers," explains Ranke. "The government claims the plane flew on this flight path and hit the building. The eyewitnesses in all of the most critical vantage points, on the other hand, independently, unanimously, and unequivocally report a drastically different flight path, proving that the plane absolutely could not have hit the light poles or the building. It is a non-controversial scientific fact that a strike from this trajectory would have caused a very different damage path."

It wasn't just witnesses who watched the plane approach the building that the team spoke with, however.

"We've also published our interview with a Pentagon police officer who saw the plane flying away from the Pentagon immediately after the explosion", says Marquis. "We already knew that the plane could not have hit based on the testimony of the witnesses on the other side of the building who watched it approach, but it was still vindicating to get this kind of confirmation."

A 2006 Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll found that "More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East." Nevertheless, Ranke and Marquis acknowledge it is still quite controversial to claim, as they do, that "criminal elements within the U.S. government" were complicit in the attacks.

"If you are skeptical of (or even incensed by) this statement we do not blame you," reads a note on the front page of their website, CitizenInvestigationTeam.com. "We are not asking you to take our word for it, nor do we want you to do that. We want you to view the evidence and see with your own eyes that this is the case. We want you to hear it directly from the eyewitnesses who were there, just as we did."

Many people seem to be taking them up on this offer. Their video has already received almost 70,000 views online since it was first posted to their website a few weeks ago with only a grass roots promotional effort behind it.

Perhaps more notable than the size of the audience, however, is the caliber of some of the people in it. A newly-published compendium of endorsements on the CitizenInvestigationTeam.com website includes praise from a wide array of distinguished and well-respected Americans.

Emmy-award winning actor and former president of The Screen actors Guild, Ed Asner, calls the film a "reasoned, and methodical look at witness testimony the day the Pentagon was attacked on Sept. 11th".

Prolific non-ficition author Dr. Peter Dale Scott, Professor Emeritus of the University of California, Berkeley affirms that the film "successfully rebuts the official account of Flight 77's flight path on 9/11 as it approached the Pentagon".

"If you accept the placement of the plane as independently and unanimously reported by the witnesses presented in CIT's video National Security Alert, science proves that it did not cause the physical damage at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001", says FAA certified pilot Robert Balsamo.

Dr. David Ray Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor Revisited: 9/11, the Cover-Up, and the Exposé and many other titles, says he is "pleased to be able to recommend this important film with enthusiasm", while scholar, author, and radio host Dr. Kevin Barrett says that the film proves "that the official version of the attack on the Pentagon is false, and that the attack must have been a deceptive military operation, not the kamakaze crash of a hijacked commercial jet."

Scott McKinsey, an award-winning network television director, says "The DVD offers no theorizing or speculation; only corroborated eyewitness evidence contradicting the official flight data to support an overwhelming argument that a plane did not slam into the Pentagon on 9/11".

Architect Richard Gage, AIA, founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth.org), a coalition of over 700 professional architects and engineers calling for a new independent investigation of the destruction of the three skyscrapers in New York on 9/11 (the third was World Trade Center 7), calls the film "long overdue, but worth waiting for" and says that it "deserves serious attention".

Retired Navy Commander and aviator James R. Compton calls National Security Alert "the best reporting I've seen in a long, long time" and "a must see for every citizen in our country".

"Government and media figures who dare ignore evidence this conclusive do so at their own peril", warns Lt. Col. Shelton Lankford, a retired Marine pilot who has flown 303 combat missions.

The full quotes from these individuals and others can be read at here.

National Security Alert can be viewed for free online here.


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#1. To: All (#0)

Can't edit after posting.

stupid

thanks

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-09-03   23:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rack42 (#1) (Edited)

Why not show photo of of the landing gear of the aircraft...INSIDE... the Pentagon.

Be interesting how they smuggled that in thru a solid wall.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-03   23:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#2)

Show me two engines, 8000 lbs (I built these type engines). So me the debis of these engines.

We went through this before. There is no evidence of two 4 ton engines of the JT-8 similar configuration (which I am familiar and were on those planes) in the debris.

Just stop it. And just stop crying "civility" when you can't take the heat for your unsupported claims.

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-09-03   23:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: rack42 (#3)

Show the photo, and tell us how they got that gear that weighs hundreds of pounds into the building.

You have all the answers, tell us how it was done.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-03   23:24:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#4)

Show the photo, and tell us how they got that gear that weighs hundreds of pounds into the building.

You have all the answers, tell us how it was done.

Show me the gearbox.

Do you know what that is?

If anything survived, it would have been the gearbox and the high turbine.

Do you know that those are?

Do you know how these engines are constructed? I do. I built them.

Where is the gearbox? Where is the high turbine which drives the fan? No fan blades survived, as in broken-off?

You know nothing about these engines. The high turbine would not be destroyed in a fire yet it was never presented.

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-09-03   23:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#5)

I must correct myself.

The high turbine drives the high compressor. The low turbine drives the low compressor and the front blades. Brain fart (been 40 years).

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-09-03   23:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: rack42 (#5)

The photo is readily available on the net.

Find it, post it and explain how that portion of an aircraft landing gear was taken in, without someone noticing it.

If you have time you might find this interesting reading.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3912/is_200209/ai_n9094704/http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3912/is_200209/ai_n9094704/

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-03   23:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: rack42 (#0)

"monstrous lie"

The "movives" for the "monstrous lie"

1. Justify war with Middle East.

2. Massive Insurance fraud to rebuild the Pentagon.

3. Get George W. Bush re-elected.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-09-03   23:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: rack42 (#3)

Prolific non-ficition author Dr. Peter Dale Scott, Professor Emeritus of the University of California, Berkeley affirms that the film "successfully rebuts the official account of Flight 77's flight path on 9/11 as it approached the Pentagon".

So what happened to Flt 77? Are the dead people just figments of our imagination?

buckeroo  posted on  2009-09-03   23:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sizzlerguy, rack42, cynicom (#8)

johnmccarthy90066.tripod.c om/id206.html

The above URL is to an article written by a journalist at the Naval PostGraduate School. She has evidence and reliable witnesses that there was a bomb that went off 3 1/2 minutes before what was alleged to have been Flight 77 struck the building. The bomb killed the military auditors who were trying to trace the 2.3 trillion dollars that Rumsfeld said the day before on 9-10-2001 he could not trace.

As for those phots, I do remember seeing a hole in the building much smaller than tho plane parts that were alleged to have been inside the building.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2009-09-03   23:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#9)

buck...

Here is a url, that tells about the medical team that removed the remains.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3912/is_200209/ai_n9094704/

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-03   23:53:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Horse (#10)

Here are the people that removed the remains. Gruesome reading. I dont know how all these remains were smuggled in, during broad daylight.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3912/is_200209/ai_n9094704/

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-03   23:55:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#7)

You might find it MORE interesting how an engineered product(the high turbine) that is engineered to accept temperatures far above "burning kerosene" is not found in the building.

What has "Handling the dead" to do with "no engine metal parts found?"

You're presenting me with some landing gear and I'm asking for two 4 ton engines.

Hello?

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-09-03   23:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#11)

Thanks.

Keep in mind, Flt 77 went down on the pentagon. It was a horrible tragic affair; I think the REAL issue for most people playing with Internet folklore is how did it go down? Many think it was shot down by the US. In any event the ground damage and all aboard the craft was REAL.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-09-03   23:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: rack42, All (#13)

You are the self proclaimed expert.

Simple, show the photo, then explain to us how it got there.

As for the human remains, I am sure the self styled experts can explain that also.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-03   23:58:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeroo (#9)

I don't know.

Just tell me where two 4 ton engines disappeared, especially since the High Turbine of the engine would in normal opperation had a much higher temperature exposure than Kerosine in normal air.

Do you get what I'm saying?

I had a kerosine heater in the 1980's that had a platinum catalyst. It didn't melt. Yet, I'm to believe that the High Turbine of a jet engine melted.

Get the drift?

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-09-04   0:05:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo, rack42 (#14)

The remains were all identified with the exception of five.

ALL PASSENGERS WERE IDENTIFIED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE...FROM THE REMAINS RECLAIMED BY THE MORTUARY TEAMS.

All IN the Pentagon.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-04   0:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#15)

You are the self proclaimed expert.

No, I'm not a "self proclaimed expert." I simply said that I've build these type of engines. Nice try (insert nasty reply here).

Now, you show me the melted High Turbine components. The high turbine takes the most heat. I won't go past that because you don't seem to understand anything about what I've posted reguarding thermodynamics.

As for the "human remains," how were they identified when the plane "melted?" Heat so great that the plane "melted," yet there was "human remains."

I'm suppose to be so stupid?

No more time for your silliness.

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-09-04   0:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: rack42 (#18)

Well, if you cannot tell us how the landing gear got there, how about all those bodies the mortuary found, and relatives claimed????

Odd the relatives of the passengers on the flight, claimed their loved ones.

Dental records matched, DNA matched, the relatives were satisfied, how were these people conned into this scam????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-04   0:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#19)

how were these people conned into this scam????

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-09-04   0:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sizzlerguy (#20)

They agreed to die for money????

Damn. I didnt know that.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-04   0:38:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#21)

die for money????

Negative.

The dental records were "rigged", and the "victims" are alive and well enjoying life in a foreign country with new faces and names.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-09-04   0:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#19)

Well, if you cannot tell us how the landing gear got there, how about all those bodies the mortuary found, and relatives claimed????

Odd the relatives of the passengers on the flight, claimed their loved ones.

Dental records matched, DNA matched, the relatives were satisfied, how were these people conned into this scam????

Tell me how the plane "burned-up" yet bodies were found.

Where is the plane? How can "bodies" be found, yet the "plane" "burned-up?"

Landing gear survives but two 4 ton engines disappear?

Where are the two 4 ton engines?

Something doesn't add up.

The combustion chambers should have survived since it takes the most heat. Composed mostly of Cobalt and rather fragile.

Where are the fan blades?

Again, I say, there are certain components that should have survived but are not in evidence.

As for the FBI claims: Yeah, I trust the government.

Goodnight.

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-09-04   0:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: rack42 (#23)

Aw shucks.

I was going to ask you if you have been present at the time of a large aircraft crash.

Darn.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-04   3:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#24)

Let's see : the government conspiracy theory is that the wings of the plane that hit the Pentagon "foulded" and the entire plane went into that little hole.

Let's take a view of physics of motion (which I explained to you several months ago).

The "plane" hits the Pentagon, it's motion causes the wings of the plane to "fold back." That's the problem. The engines are 4 tons each. In order for the wings to "fold back" their forward motion must stop and the foward motion of the engines must stop and move in a new direction. That direction is toward the fusalage and backward. I'll repeat: toward the fusalage and backward.

Tell me what is the instantanous force to cause 4 tons to stop it's foward direction and move into a new direction.

Actually, it's more than 4 tons because the wings have weight.

And you need to explain why the engines didn't detach as those did in the Airbus incident which did detach as they did by design when forces were such that it would be best that the engine dropped rather than the wing detached, which I said in a previous post.

Your lack of knowledge of simple physics is astonishing.

Oh, your come-back on experts: I need someone from "out of town" to tell me what to think?

Are you in the camp of those that believe that traveling by rail over 35mph will suffacate the travellers? That Man will never fly by machine?

That's where you seem to be camped in terms of physics: the 1880's.

Actually, much of this isn't about physics, it's mechanics which does reflect on physics, ie, forces, vectors, which you don't seem to comprehend.

But that's ok. I'm sure that you don't "get it," and never will.

...with the power of conviction, there is no sacrifice.

rack42  posted on  2009-09-04   22:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: rack42 (#25)

I recall you posted the article.

In that vein, carry thru and show the photo of the landing gear with an explanation as to how it was found INSIDE the Pentagon.

Then there are the bodies, please explain how they were faked.

Should be simple.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-04   22:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom, rack42 (#24)

Tell me that wasn't a single square centimeter of Pentagon property that wasn't covered by at least one video surveillance camera 09/11. Where, oh, where are those videos??

Oh, yeah, with the rest of the film confiscated from surrounding businesses that day.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-09-04   22:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: wbales (#27)

w.

There are some scenarios posed by well meaning people that cannot stand the test of open scrutiny.

I have no idea or interest in what happened at the Pentagon that day. The experts are too smart for me. Conjecture is fine but it has to be kept within the bounds of reality.

Who did it, I dont know, how I dont know, did some bad people conspire to kill a lot of people??? Yes they did, and it was done. Endless theorizing adds nothing and only helps mask the truth from ever being known.

All above my pay grade, all I know is the landing gear was in there, the human remains were there. I accept that. If it does not fit the views of others, all they have to do is explain how it was accomplished.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-04   23:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#28)

all I know is the landing gear was in there, the human remains were there. I accept that. If it does not fit the views of others, all they have to do is explain how it was accomplished.

Where were the engines?

Jet engines don't just vaporise. They kinda keep going and fall and stuff.

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-04   23:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: rack42 (#3)

There is no evidence of two 4 ton engines of the JT-8 similar configuration (which I am familiar and were on those planes) in the debris.

In all catastrophic crashes, those engines just do not vaporize--they remain the most recognizable parts of the plane.

The photos of the post crash pentagon simply do NOT indicate a collision from a plane that size.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-09-04   23:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Clitora (#29)

Jet engines don't just vaporise

Exactly.

Where the engines would have hit the wall, there are no massive holes they would have created. In this proposed crash scenario, these engines would have flown into the inner courtyard ahead of anything else.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-09-04   23:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Clitora (#29)

Where were the engines?

No idea. Was not there have seen no photos of such.

The web is replete with the landing gear, photographed by a multitude of people.

It IS there, INSIDE the Pentagon, thru a solid wall.

The mortuary and medical people did in fact come out with bags of human remains, they did not take them in with them.

That is reality. Where are the engines??? I am sure in that "investigation" there are photos and expert explanation as to where they ended up.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-04   23:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: All (#31)

Beyond all this, WTC-7 remains the absolute weak link in the BS government story.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-09-04   23:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#32) (Edited)

I am sure in that "investigation" there are photos and expert explanation as to where they ended up.

You need no investigation to see where the engines would have entered the Pentagon. Widely available photos show that was no engine damage (entry points) from a plane that size that hit the side of that building.

The "holes" are simply not there.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-09-04   23:25:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Clitora, rack42, all (#29)

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml

This url shows several photos of the engine remains from the AA aircraft. Inside the Pentagon.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-04   23:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: wbales (#34)

w...

See nr 35. Photos are there.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-04   23:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: wbales, All (#33)

Beyond all this, WTC-7 remains the absolute weak link in the BS government story.

There is where people should be spending their time in conjecture.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-04   23:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#32)

http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/debris.html

http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm? site=http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-09-04   23:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Cynicom (#35)

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml

From that website: "Rotating engine disk visible at the Pentagon"

Why wasn't that piece of the plane engine vaporized, as well?

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-09-04   23:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: wbales (#38)

I did have the misfortune while in the military of witnessing two crashes of large four engine bombers.

Saw them burning exploding etc etc. After both investigations were complete, a pay loader scooped up the debris onto a flat bed trailer. Large airplane very little on the truck.

There were seven distinguishable parts. The four engines and the three landing gear. The rest was bits and pieces. The engines were piston type, and survived in better condition than a jet engine would.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-04   23:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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