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Title: Democrats Signal Resistance to Increase of Troops in Afghanistan
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200 ... e-increase-troops-afghanistan/
Published: Sep 5, 2009
Author: FoxNews
Post Date: 2009-09-05 09:46:18 by christine
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Views: 257
Comments: 16

WASHINGTON -- Increasing congressional discord over the next U.S. steps in Afghanistan, coupled with a spike in violence there, is deepening the political divide on the war and how many troops are needed to fight it.

Key Senate Democrats signaled Friday that any push by the White House to send more troops to Afghanistan is likely to hit resistance. And their unease was fueled by another bombing, that left as many as 70 dead, including civilians who were killed when the U.S. blew up tanker trucks hijacked by the Taliban.

That deadly U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan Friday complicates the debate over the need for more U.S. troops, bolstering arguments that Afghan leaders must increasingly fend for themselves.

Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin said the United States must focus more on building Afghanistan's security forces. His cautionary stance was echoed by Sen. Jack Reed, who is also on the committee and spent two days in Afghanistan this week with Levin.

The senators will return to Washington next week, just as President Barack Obama receives a new military review of Afghanistan strategy that officials expect will be followed up by a request for at least a modest increase in U.S. troops battling insurgents in the 8-year-old war.

Obama came into office pledging to shift U.S. focus from the war in Iraq to the Afghan fight, which had long been a secondary priority. But as war-weary Americans have watched another 21,000 troops go to Afghanistan this year, and U.S. casualties rise, support for the war has waned.

As a result, lawmakers say they want the U.S. to more quickly train and equip the Afghan Army and police so the embattled country can take over its own security needs.

"There are a lot of ways to speed up the numbers and capabilities of the Afghan army and police. They are strongly motivated," Levin said from Kuwait. "I think that we should pursue that course ... before we consider a further increase in combat forces beyond what's already been planned to be sent in the months ahead."

Levin said there is a growing consensus on the need to expedite training and equipping the Afghan army to improve security in Afghanistan, where 51 U.S. troops died in August, making it the bloodiest month for American forces there since the U.S.-led invasion in late 2001.

Still, the airstrike comes just as U.S. defense leaders insisted this week that troops were making great progress in stemming civilian deaths.

"All I can really do is assure you that they recognize the gravity of these events when they happen and it has the full attention of the leadership," Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman said of forces in Afghanistan that were investigating the Friday attack.

Afghan and German officials said a total of 50 to 70 people died early Friday morning after German forces called in an American airstrike on Taliban insurgents who had hijacked two fuel tankers in northern Kunduz province. There were reports that some of the dead were civilians who swarmed around the trucks to siphon fuel.

Under new orders put in place by top commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal in July to reduce civilian casualties, U.S. and NATO forces were directed to limit air support to ground troops when civilians might be present.

And Adm. Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, told Pentagon reporters this week that Afghan civilian casualties were being greatly reduced.

In a separate call with reporters Friday, Reed, a Rhode Island Democrat, said the U.S. must use a multi-pronged approach to win the war in Afghanistan. The U.S., he said, must build up the Afghan Army, send more civilians to Afghanistan to provide economic and political assistance, and reach out to Taliban supporters who are willing to recognize the Kabul government.

The hesitancy to boost troops levels comes just days after Obama's defense chief suggested a willingness to consider an increase. Defense Secretary Robert Gates this week urged patience with the war effort, and said he would be comfortable with a larger U.S. military presence in Afghanistan as long as the increase reassured the country's citizens that the Americans were there for the benefit of Afghans.

Gates has declined to talk about any specific recommendations contained in a new review of Afghanistan strategy presented this week by McChrystal.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Increasing congressional discord over the next U.S. steps in Afghanistan, coupled with a spike in violence there, is deepening the political divide on the war and how many troops are needed to fight it.

The politicians heard other rants from the masses beyond health care.

The gauntlet is down, military demands more grunts, it is now Obama's war and there is NO way to withdraw or maintain the status quo.

Odds are there will be more grunts.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-05   9:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

All on here who want to see the "EPIC FAIL" of Obama are going to be richly rewarded as time goes on.

On both this issue and the health care issue (where he is carrying the private health insurance racket's water at this point), the 'O'ster is determined to go against his own party and destroy it from within.

As I predicted once Rahm was selected as his "Cheney," Chimp II is the Jimmy Carter of 2009-2013 (should he finish his term).

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-09-05   9:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Sam Houston (#2)

You underestimate many people.

Many Americans realize that if Obama fails, that most likely the country will descend into chaos. Of course, these same people understand that Obama is just the front man, as would be any replacement.

Wishing for nationwide misery is not in the blood of most people.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-05   10:01:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

I specified the people on the 4um wishing for his "EPIC FAIL" and I would guess that it is the vast majority on here.

My own view is that the empire's EPIC FAIL is upon us and would have occurred regardless of the individual who replaced Chimp I.

But it wasn't wise to want to be President from 2009 to 2013. McCain is fortunate that he lost, but I'm almost certain he knew he wasn't "fated" to win anyhow.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-09-05   10:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Sam Houston (#2)

As I predicted once Rahm was selected

Yes....a true defining moment.

A nanosecond after I heard that, I was on the phone to my brother...he said, yep, you were right.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-09-05   10:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Sam Houston (#4)

You are in fine fettle writing wise this morning.

Agreed.

With the appearance of Chimp and Chump, there appeared the first hints of bad things to come. As their time went on, the bad things began happening, and now we are on a wild ride to somewhere, a place we will not like.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-05   10:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Sam Houston (#2)

All on here who want to see the "EPIC FAIL" of Obama are going to be richly rewarded as time goes on.

that's an inaccurate way to characterize it for most, i think, Sam. i think it's more accurate to say that it's what we knew and said all along would happen. it was a delusion for all who thought Obama would represent change of the power that be. biden (i'm a zionist) VP. emmanuel COS. hillary SoS. gates SoD. etc, etc. i mean, really, that anyone *believed* is astonishing (to put it mildly) to me.

christine  posted on  2009-09-05   10:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#0)

Increasing congressional discord over the next U.S. steps in Afghanistan, coupled with a spike in violence there, is deepening the political divide on the war and how many troops mercenaries are needed to fight it.

Our effort in Afghanistan is largely a mercenary army operation, typical of empires in decline.

Notice how they avoid mentioning this, trying to capitalize on the widespread public sentiment on supporting The Troops.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-09-05   10:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Sam Houston (#2)

On both this issue and the health care issue (where he is carrying the private health insurance racket's water at this point), the 'O'ster is determined to go against his own party and destroy it from within.

As you look at it over time with Xlinton, Bush and Yomama, it's difficult not to conclude that the ruling elites must hold a belief that a president is elected largely to screw his own party and his own constituents. Look at the crap Bush pulled off.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-09-05   10:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#0)

And who is helping closet neocon Obama run this immoral war and are his strongest supporters? This should explain what/who Obama really is.

Neocons Back Obama on Afghanistan

Ben Smith has the goods on a letter to Obama from an esteemed roster of neocons--including Bill Kristol, John Podhoretz, Pete Wehner, Max Boot, Cliff May, Randy Scheunemann, and other familiar fellow travelers--urging him "to fully resource this effort [in Afghanistan and] do everything possible to minimize the risk of failure."

www.tnr.com/blog/the-plan...ns-back-obama-afghanistan

www.politico.com/blogs/be..._Afghanistan.html?showall

www.worldpoliticsreview.com/article.aspx?id=4256

voices.washingtonpost.com...an/still-fighting_pf.html

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2009-09-05   11:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#0)

Was talking to someone about this earlier today. Seems to us that Obama is expanding the war in Afghanistan but isn't really paying too much attention to it. Not one of his priorities. But then again, for the most part, the guys that are dying over there probably aren't his power base anyway.

Sonovademocrat  posted on  2009-09-05   12:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: bush_is_a_moonie. all (#10)

..."to fully resource this effort [in Afghanistan and] do everything possible to minimize the risk of failure."

With no definition of success, what is there besides failure?

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-09-05   12:35:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#12)

Remember, Paul said bring all of the troops home. The voters and candidate stooges laffed him off stage.

We like war and dying. One hundred and thirty million voters said so.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-05   12:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#10)

urging him "to fully resource this effort [in Afghanistan and] do everything possible to minimize the risk of failure."

but of course...

good links. thanks.

christine  posted on  2009-09-05   12:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#14)

Obama is considering a draft that would include women to age 60.

I think that would fair. Lot of women over 40, childless just hanging around.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-05   15:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#0)

What number of people must die because of 9/11, brought on by the coercive political activities of US Jews?

The political and economic activities of US Jews is killing America --- end of story!

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-09-05   17:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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