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Title: Obama's Afghanistan Contradiction
Source: Mother Jones
URL Source: http://www.motherjones.com/politics ... amas-afghanistan-contradiction
Published: Sep 7, 2009
Author: David Corn
Post Date: 2009-09-07 16:19:38 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 82
Comments: 4

With the war in Afghanistan, President Barack Obama faces a contradiction. He says he wants to win the war but he will not commit to fighting for as long as that might take.

This tension between policy and rhetoric was on full display in the White House briefing room earlier this week. On Monday, press secretary Robert Gibbs was asked repeatedly about Afghanistan and the strategic assessment that had just been completed by Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the top US commander there. Gibbs noted that Obama had yet to see McChrystal's review, but he said over and over that the Afghanistan war had been "under-resourced" for years by the Bush-Cheney administration and that "it takes a long time to implement" a change in strategy. Asked if the situation in Afghanistan was spiraling out of control, Gibbs replied that McChrystal's review had concluded "the situation is quite serious but the war is indeed winnable."

Later during the briefing, I asked Gibbs to define "winnable." He answered:

The President and his advisors have talked about disrupting, dismantling, and destroying al Qaeda and its extremist allies. We have to ensure that there are— while there are those currently plotting to do our country harm, that we don't provide them a safe haven to do that; that we have a government in Afghanistan that is self-sufficient, that we have a security force in that country that's able to deal with the challenges that are presented to it.

But without being prompted, Gibbs added this statement: "Our commitment can't be forever." I followed up by asking, "How can you say the commitment is not forever if you set up those goals? Maybe it will take close to forever to reach those goals." Gibbs responded:

I don't think it will take close to forever. But I don't know what year that would be.

So Obama has established high benchmarks for victory in Afghanistan—particularly, a working government and a functional military that can handle the Taliban and other challenges. But the White House maintains that the president's commitment in Afghanistan will not be without an end—without specifying when that end might be. The tasks Gibbs outlined could well require many years to accomplish—that is, if they are even achievable. Yet with polls showing decreasing public support for the war, Obama is not pledging to stay in Afghanistan until these objectives are met.

That leads to an obvious question: if the goals are critical to the security of the United States, shouldn't they be pursued until the job is done? It seems as if Gibbs was almost saying, We'll give this a shot and see what happens. Which, of course, is a formulation Obama cannot voice—even if it reflects the true sentiment at the White House.

Obama is in the awkward position of hard-selling the war--we must do this, this and this--while downplaying what all this could entail. It's a rhetorical balancing act that could end up being tough to sustain. And it's slightly reminiscent of what the Bush-Cheney gang tried to pull off when they were pushing the case for invading Iraq.

The politics of the war are becoming more dicey for the Obama administration. Liberal Democrats are increasingly concerned about the deployment of additional troops (and McChrystal may soon ask for even more soldiers), and when columnist George Will wrote this week that US forces in Afghanstain should be "substantially reduced," he signaled the possibility of opposition from the right. (There is indeed the potential for a left-right coalition against the war.) For the time being, Obama's most reliable supporters on the war are congressional Republicans. This poses a dilemma for him: can he simultaneously keep Democrats from open rebellion by promising that Afghanistan won't turn into a Vietnam-like sinkhole, while preserving GOP support by standing firm on the war?

Speaking about McChrystal's assessment, Adm. Michael Mullen, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on Thursday said that "time is not on our side." But he did not say why. Given what the polls indicate, the public is losing patience. Yet the mission in Afghanistan, as defined by Obama, will take loads of time. How Obama deals with this friction could end up shaping his presidency more than his handling of health care reform.

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#1. To: Hayek Fan (#0)

by promising that Afghanistan won't turn into a Vietnam-like sinkhole, while preserving GOP support by standing firm on the war?

Get higher boots or get out of the swamp.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-07   16:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1) (Edited)

Get higher boots or get out of the swamp.

I'd love for someone to ask these scum something like, "what are we doing different than the Soviets did which will ensure our success?" It would be enjoyable to watch them tap dance over that. The simple truth of the matter is that we are doing very little different than the Soviets. We control the urban areas and that's it - the same as the Soviets. We strike out into the rural areas, strike a target here or there, and then retreat back to our urban centers because we do not have the troops to control anything BUT the urban areas -same as the Soviets.

Meanwhile, the Taliban engage in guerrilla warfare with the full backing of the majority of the population. The SF troops are fighting a loosing battle with trying to win friends because conventional troops are attacking medical clinics, bombing wedding parties, and in general, killing civilians like ants.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-09-07   16:32:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Hayek Fan (#2)

Ants are collateral damage. Written off with the stroke of a pen.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-07   16:43:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3) (Edited)

Ants are collateral damage. Written off with the stroke of a pen.

Unfortunately for the U.S., the Afghani's are not "civilized" American sheeple. They will not sit around and allow the U.S. government to kill their families willy nilly and not retaliate. On the contrary. They are very much an "eye for an eye" people. For every one innocent Afghani killed, multiple new enemies are created. How many is anyone's guess. Of course those making the decisions could care less about this or what it means for American troops. They will never be held accountable for their decisions and it won't be their children dying.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-09-07   16:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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