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Title: Conspiracy theory or hidden truth? The 9/11 enigmas...
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Published: Sep 9, 2009
Author: Richard Gage, AIA, Gregg Roberts, and Da
Post Date: 2009-09-09 16:46:53 by Horse
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Richard Gage, AIA has been a practicing San Francisco Bay Area architect for more than 20 years, and is a registered member of the American Institute of Architects. Most recently he worked on a $400M mixed-use facility in Las Vegas NV. But he is also the founder and CEO of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, now numbering over 800 A/E’s, calling for a new investigation into the destruction of all 3 WTC high-rises on 9/11. Gage has spoken at over 100 events, reaching 20 U.S. states and 8 countries. He has been invited to present in 14 cities Australia, New Zealand, and Japan before the end of this year. As the anniversary of the events approaches, Gage tells WAN why he thinks there are hidden depths to the destruction of the World Trade Centre... In all likelihood, you are unaware of the most important facts involving the destructions of the World Trade Center buildings. Nearly all the mainstream information sources and government officials have kept crucial information hidden from the public. This brief article will provide a clear explanation as to what actually happened to the Twin Towers and Building 7 (WTC 7) on September 11, 2001. Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth) is a non-partisan, non-profit organization now numbering over 800 technical professionals and thousands of other supporters dedicated to exposing the facts that point to the explosive destruction of all three World Trade Center (WTC) high-rises. We are calling for a new independent investigation empowered to subpoena and question witnesses under oath. Well-documented facts prove the WTC high-rises were destroyed by explosives. The implications are grave, but we ask that you look at the facts. AE911Truth is also concerned that evidence has been distorted and covered up by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the federal agency assigned to investigate the building collapses. World Trade Center – Building 7 47-storey WTC 7 before destruction WTC 7 was a 47-story steel-framed high-rise 100 yards from the North Tower. Even though no airplane hit it, it collapsed rapidly and totally on 9/11, in the manner of a controlled demolition. Despite its suspicious collapse, the 9/11 Commission report does not even mention WTC 7. NIST left its analysis of the WTC 7 collapse until 2008, seven years after the events, long after all the rubble was destroyed. NIST claims WTC 7 collapsed due to “normal office fires” which created a “new phenomenon” in high-rise catastrophes: collapse caused by thermal expansion of beams. NIST claims this caused the failure of a single column – the rest just followed. Free-fall acceleration through 40,000 tons of structural steel? NIST Forced to Acknowledge Free-Fall of WTC 7 In August 2008, NIST released the draft of its final report on Building 7. In that draft NIST claims that the building took 40% longer than "free-fall time" to collapse the first 18 stories. In a technical briefing that followed the release of the draft report Shyam Sunder, NIST’s lead investigator, denied that free-fall had occurred and stated that free-fall was incompatible with their analysis. said, “… a free fall time would be an object that has no … structural components below it...And that is not at all unusual because there was [emphasis in original] structural resistance that was provided in this particular case. And you had … a sequence of structural failures that had to take place and everything was not instantaneous.” However, one of this article’s co-authors, David Chandler, used video analysis to show conclusively that for 2.5 seconds (about 100 feet) WTC 7 was in complete free-fall. He publicly challenged NIST’s claims at the technical briefing and he, along with others, filed formal requests for corrections. NIST were forced to reverse themselves in their Final Report and acknowledged 2.25 seconds of absolute free-fall. Yet they did not reconsider how this was compatible with their analysis. A network of heavy steel girders had to be forcibly removed suddenly across the width of the building for eight floors. However, a free-falling object cannot exert force on anything in its path without slowing its own fall, so the structural support had to be removed by something else—explosives. The free-fall of Building 7 is a smoking gun. World Trade Center – Commonalities in all Three Building Destructions Complete Destruction Through the Path of Greatest Resistance NIST claims that the Twin Towers collapsed due to the plane impacts and fire, and that WTC 7 collapsed due to fire alone. However, note that the Twin Towers survived the plane impacts and the jet fuel burned off in the first 10 minutes. Beyond that, all we have are not very large office fires. Over 100 steel framed buildings have suffered major fires, many much worse, yet none have collapsed. All three buildings on 9/11 fell through what should have been the path of greatest resistance – thousands of tons of steel – resulting in total dismemberment. This would require precisely timed removal of critical columns, which office fires cannot accomplish. Furthermore, a small falling top section would destroy itself before it could destroy a larger, stronger, undamaged lower section of the building. The impossible collapse is a smoking gun. Molten Iron The temperatures of the fires present a problem for NIST's claim that fire alone was involved. The melting point of steel is about 2800° F. According to NIST's own documents, hydrocarbon fires (e.g., jet fuel and office furnishings) generate temperatures only up to about 2,000° F under ideal conditions. NIST recognizes these fires could not melt steel, so they had to postulate elaborate mechanisms that might trigger collapse due to weakened columns and sagging girders. Yet there is widespread evidence of molten iron in the rubble piles. Photos and numerous witnesses -- including fire fighters, cleanup crews, and structural engineers -- confirm the existence of several tons of molten metal under the debris. Some fire fighters described molten steel flowing like lava. Photos clearly reveal molten metal dripping as material is being lifted by excavation equipment. Office fires are not hot enough to create the molten metal seen by dozens of witness A video of the South Tower shows molten metal pouring out, glowing a radiant orange-yellow. Some have claimed this is molten aluminum, which melts at a lower temperature, but molten aluminum would be silvery in these conditions. This is molten iron or steel. Jet fuel and office fires can’t create molten iron At least three independent laboratory analyses of the dust that blanketed Lower Manhattan after the destruction of the Twin Towers reveal the presence of iron-rich “microspheres.” These spheres are formed when molten iron is sprayed into the air and forms droplets that cool before hitting the ground. The iron droplets indicate temperatures during the collapses much higher than hydrocarbon fires, in an explosive environment that could spray many tons of these droplets into the air. In April 2002, the RJ Lee Company was hired to investigate environmental contaminants in the Deutsche Bank, across the street from the World Trade Center. It reports, “Many of the materials, such as lead, cadmium, mercury and various organic compounds, vaporized and then condensed during the WTC Event.” The problem here is that lead vaporizes at 3200° F, some 1200° F hotter than is possible in hydrocarbon fires. A study of the WTC dust by the USGS for the EPA observed molybdenum-rich spheres that can form only above 4750° F. The high temperatures are another smoking gun. Unignited Nano-Thermite in the WTC Dust NIST did not even look for physical evidence of explosives. In fact NIST did not look at the physical evidence at all, apart from a few selected samples of the steel. The rest was destroyed. However, physical evidence did remain: the dust. NIST did not look at the dust, but independent investigators did. They discovered, along with the microspheres, tiny red-grey chips. They examined samples of WTC dust from different parts of Manhattan. All contained the red-gray chips. They found that the red layer consisted of unignited nano-thermite. Ordinary thermite is an incendiary: it can burn through heavy steel in seconds. The tiny particles in nano-thermite (1/1000 the thickness of a human hair) causes a much faster reaction so it can be used as a high explosive. The discovery of nano-thermite in the WTC dust was published in The Open Chemical Physics Journal in April 2009. Hundreds of Red/Grey chips of “Unignited thermite” in every WTC Dust sample Nano-thermite particle sizes are 1,000 times smaller than a human hair. This material is not made in a cave in Afghanistan. These scientists found not just a smoking gun, but a loaded gun. Independent lines of evidence prove the official government claims are impossible. We see our role at AE911Truth as exposing the evidence official agencies and the corporate media are covering up. Following up on the implications is the responsibility of every citizen. Every citizen must face his or her own conscience when confronting these difficult facts -- especially when we consider that 9/11 is the foundation for two wars, the launching of an endless "war on terror," and the loss of our freedoms due to legislation pushed through amid the fog of war. Following Up on the Evidence Here are some starting points for action: a) Send the AE911Truth.org link to your personal mailing list and every architect and engineer that you can find. b) Sign the petition and demand a new, independent investigation. Volunteer. Become a sustaining donor. c) Write your local news media and representatives. Tell them to address the evidence. Send them the DVD, “9/11: Blueprint for Truth.” A video of initiation of explosive destruction is here for WTC 1 (North Tower) and here for WTC 2 (South Tower).
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#1. To: Horse (#0)
Excellent re-cap of what most of us have known for years now. Thanks.
I was raised in the constuction field and know people who own companies that implode buildings. Every person I've known in that field laughs at the Truthers, and at architects (who know nothing of demolition). This is why no one who implodes buildings for a living has never supported the Truthers or even been interviewed by them. It's always some Philosophy or English professor or some architect or engineer who's never been involved in the slightest in construction, and know nothing about it.
It is widely know in the field of human behavior that laughing is meant to hide something or dismiss a lie. It is also widely understood that in our political system we see the qualities displayed by virtually all politicians in democracy: the constant need for status and recognition. The ends — compensating for an inferiority complex — justify whatever Machiavellian means. Because democracy is open to any and all who can get elected — either through connections, personality, or personal wealth — it is a social system where leadership positions become a hotbed for sociopaths and sociopaths were responsible for 9-11. A danish scientist Niels Harrit, on nano-thermite in the WTC dust Niels Harrit has been Associate Professor at the Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, for 37 years.
ping #3 post
horsepoop
Horse feathers.
Equine excrement.
Horse feathers. Horseshit!
Not creative enough.
Hey bub, watch it. She has a bar of soap with YOUR name on it.
*snickering*
Esso is rather "youthful" and at times needs adult supervision.
9/11 was also a day of deceit. PH was a conspiracy to get us into war and so was 911.
Agreed. However the endless bickering on the mechanics only serves to obscure the "who".
Esso should ask Santa for a nice 'spell-check' proggie for Christmas. Or migrate to Firefox as his browser. Seriously, E, give Firefox a try - I, and most here, think that you'll like it a bunch.
jta.org/news/article/2009...ingnazismoutsidethemovies
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Amen, and may I add that the Gulf of Tonkin was likewise bullshite that led us into Vietnam.
Shame on you, Turtle. "So the question is: Were WTC 1,2 & 7 brought down by explosives or by fire as the official government report says? Well, we know that the buildings came down in approx. 12 seconds (WTC 1 & 2) and 6 seconds (WTC 7) which is basically free fall speeds. We also know that no steel framed skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire with exceptions of WTC 1, 2 and 7. Hmm, three buidings in one day that defy the laws of physics and spontaneously collapse due to fire. I don't think so! Check out the comparison between a professional demolition and WTC buildings. Do you notice any similarities?"
Most interesting link - thanks.
Silly peasant, you'll never know how much you benefited from getting tin five cents a ton cheaper. Go stand in the corner and write an essay.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Korea and Vietnam were against...COMMUNISTS...we had a large anti war segment, active and loud. Nine years of war on "MOSLEMS"...we have Cindy Sheehan as the lone anti war protester. Is there a conclusion to be drawn there????
Can I get free health care first?
Don't mess with Israel?
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Nine years of war on "MOSLEMS"...we have Cindy Sheehan as the lone anti war protester. Is there a conclusion to be drawn there???? AH.....the Tribe created the commies and the Muzzies hate the Tribe?
Sure, why not...
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Thanks. I'm going to lend my plan to Glenn Beck so he can have that boil lanced.
TMI my friend, I thought ingrown hairs were all the rage!
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. No, but I liked the progression & the symmetry.
People often conclude we are in the ME to stay because of oil and drugs. They are collateral cash crops, we are in the ME to stay because of Israel and we will never leave other than in body bags. Anyone that thinks differently is only deluding themselves.
Then just goes to show that maybe you need to start making up some better stories, eh little man?
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
And not frankincense and myrrh? Hmmm.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Thanks for clearing that up, dingus.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. China is opening up mines and prospecting for oil in Afghan, guess who is protecting them?????
raytheon?
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Do they also laugh at the firefighters who heard the explosions? BTW, what's make you think ordinary demolition guys would know all about the most sophisticated equipment and methods dreamed up by those under contract by the NWO? Even IF you aren't lying through your shell, just because you know a few guys who bring down some old buildings doesn't make either you or them experts on the capabilities of the richest people on earth. Computer controlled charges are not THAT far of a stretch, in fact, given enough money just about any good engineer could design and rig something up to get the job done, EXACTLY how it was done at WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7.
Aynak Valley, Afghanistan. "Somewhere beneath the valley’s floor lies one of the world’s biggest untapped copper deposits, estimated to be worth up to $88_billion (£44 billion) – more than double Afghanistan’s entire gross domestic product (GDP) in 2007. In November, a 30-year lease was sold to the China Metallurgical Group for $3 billion, making it the biggest foreign investment and private business venture in Afghanistan’s history. Last week the Afghan Government approved the contract, clearing the way for the revival of an industry that dates back to Alexander the Great". US troops are keeping the natives away so the Chinks can haul out the copper.
JALREZ VALLEY, Afghanistan ,May 09— "In this Taliban stronghold in the mountains south of Kabul, the U.S. Army is providing the security that will enable China to exploit one of the world's largest unexploited deposits of copper, earn tens of billions of dollars and feed its voracious appetite for raw materials. U.S. troops set up bases last month along a dirt track that a Chinese firm is paving as part of a $3 billion project to gain access to the Aynak copper reserves. Some troops made camp outside a compound built for the Chinese road crews, who are about to return from winter break. American forces also have expanded their presence in neighboring Logar province, where the Aynak deposit is.
So I should have bought anaconda stock?
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Ya watchin' O'boingo on the toob? The whole congress, VP & cabinet is there. There's never one of them Iranian nukes around when you need it.
Nope, buy dirt.
It's a dramatic device used to advance the narrative, and you're just mean for acting like you don't know that.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.
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#2. To: Horse (#0)
There's no place better thanTurtle Island.
#3. To: Turtle (#2)
"Every person I've known in that field laughs at the Truthers"
#4. To: Horse (#0)
#5. To: Turtle (#2)
This is why no one who implodes buildings for a living has never supported the Truthers or even been interviewed by them. It's always some Philosophy or English professor or some architect or engineer who's never been involved in the slightest in construction, and know nothing about it.
#6. To: christine (#5)
horsepoop
#7. To: Cynicom, christine (#6)
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#8. To: christine, Cynicom (#6)
horsepoop
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#9. To: Esso, christine, Cynicom (#8)
Horseshit!
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#10. To: Esso (#8)
Horseshit!
#11. To: Cynicom (#10)
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#12. To: farmfriend (#11)
#13. To: Cynicom, Turtle (#6)
Beyond a doubt Pearl Harbor was President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s back door into the European War. Roosevelt’s decisions and actions were very much so, deliberate and calculated, in order to lead a victorious Allied Powers in World War II. By provoking the Japanese and the foreknowledge of an attack on Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt along with his top advisors and the Federal Government are truly to blame for the lost of American life’s and American property. 7 December 1941 shall be a day in American history, which will be remembered as “a day of deceit.”
#14. To: christine (#13)
9/11 was also a day of deceit. PH was a conspiracy to get us into war and so was 911.
#15. To: Cynicom, Esso, all (#12)
#16. To: Lod (#15)
#17. To: christine (#13)
Beyond a doubt Pearl Harbor was President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s back door into the European War. Roosevelt’s decisions and actions were very much so, deliberate and calculated, in order to lead a victorious Allied Powers in World War II. By provoking the Japanese and the foreknowledge of an attack on Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt along with his top advisors and the Federal Government are truly to blame for the lost of American life’s and American property. 7 December 1941 shall be a day in American history, which will be remembered as “a day of deceit.”
#18. To: Turtle (#2)
COMPARISON OF WTC COLLAPSE WITH OTHER BUILDINGS
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#19. To: Dakmar (#16)
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
#21. To: Jethro Tull, Esso, Lod, Christine, All (#17)
#22. To: Dakmar (#20)
#23. To: Cynicom (#21)
Nine years of war on "MOSLEMS"...we have Cindy Sheehan as the lone anti war protester. Is there a conclusion to be drawn there????
#24. To: Cynicom (#21)
Korea and Vietnam were against...COMMUNISTS...we had a large anti war segment, active and loud.
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#22)
Can I get free health care first?
#26. To: Dakmar (#25)
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
#28. To: farmfriend (#9)
Not creative enough.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#29. To: Dakmar, Jethro Tull, Esso, Lod, christine (#23)
Don't mess with Israel?
#30. To: Turtle (#2)
Every person I've known in that field laughs at the Truthers,
#31. To: Cynicom (#29)
People often conclude we are in the ME to stay because of oil and drugs.
#32. To: Turtle (#2)
This is why no one who implodes buildings for a living has never supported the Truthers or even been interviewed by them.
#33. To: Dakmar (#31)
(Edited)
#34. To: Cynicom (#33)
#35. To: Turtle (#2)
I was raised in the constuction field and know people who own companies that implode buildings. Every person I've known in that field laughs at the Truthers, and at architects (who know nothing of demolition). This is why no one who implodes buildings for a living has never supported the Truthers or even been interviewed by them.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#36. To: Dakmar (#34)
#37. To: Dakmar, Jethro tull (#34)
#38. To: Cynicom (#36)
#39. To: Dakmar (#34)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#40. To: Dakmar (#38)
#41. To: Esso (#39)
There's never one of them Iranian nukes around when you need it.
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