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Title: What happens when it gets cold and there isn't enough energy?
Source: examiner.com
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x- ... d-and-there-isnt-enough-energy
Published: Sep 10, 2009
Author: Kirtland Griffin
Post Date: 2009-09-10 15:11:02 by farmfriend
Ping List: *Agriculture-Environment*     Subscribe to *Agriculture-Environment*
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Views: 676
Comments: 45

What happens when it gets cold and there isn't enough energy?

September 9, 10:32 PM
New Haven County Environmental Policy Examiner
Kirtland Griffin

Seems that every day you read about how successful the environmentalists have been at stopping a coal fired plant, a hydroelectric dam, or a nuclear reactor in favor of unreliable wind and solar power. This brings up a serious question, one that I would like to hear an answer from the enviros, politicians and others who are either preventing the building of these facilities or profiting from the alternatives. This would, of course, include our Connecticut governor and the entire Connecticut legislature that unanimously passed the climate bill requiring an 80% cut in carbon emissions by 2050. Throw in the entire Department of Environmental Protection while we are at it. They too are complicit.

The scenario is that the Sun, as it proceeds toward the barycenter of the solar system, and slows to half its former velocity, with a fraction of its former intensity, will result in the predictions you have read here of a long deep cold spell. Some say the spell could last 30 years. Others have predicted 100 years and at least one has suggested 300 years is not out of the question and maybe even more. If this scenario plays out in concert with the environmentalists penchant for stopping every new source of power, other than wind, solar and bio-fuels, there is an extreme likelihood we will not have sufficient power to heat our homes and power our factories. There will be shortages of critical commodities. Farming will be out of the question in most of the temperate areas. Food shortages will be everywhere and starving people, and animals too, will be common even in the most affluent countries. It won't necessarily be about money. There won't be any food. There won't be any energy. There won't be any warmth, period!

So the question I ask of all these people who played on our fears of man-made global warming and duped the public into accepting these draconian measures for a scam, supported by the scantiest of nebulous evidence, perpetrated, at least in a significant part, by the UN, is this. When the power sources that could have been built, but for your inane scheme, are not available along with the power that they would have produced, and will all of you self righteous opportunists who sold your souls to the UN step aside and allow those who played no part in the scam to have the available power and food? I think all we know the answer to that question. Fat Chance!

But don't worry. They'll take care of you.

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#6. To: farmfriend, SonOfLiberty, randge (#0)

Seems that every day you read about how successful the environmentalists have been at stopping a coal fired plant, a hydroelectric dam, or a nuclear reactor in favor of unreliable wind and solar power.

If a free human being doesn't want a coal fired power plant to rain down mercury in their area, or a hydroelectric dam build to destroy their river, or a nuclear reactor that will leak and cause birth defects, then that is your fault.

Instead of attacking those with whom you disagree like puppets pulling your own strings, why don't you get a clue and do something about the Millitary Industrial Complex that is hiding the technology that could free US ALL!

You people are selfish jerks and make me want to join the NWO in putting you into cattle cars.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-10   15:42:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Clitora (#6)

You expect me to answer you, after you just called me a selfish jerk and proclaimed that you want to put me into a cattle car?

If you want civil discussion, you're going to have to try it the non-Obama way, and start out conversations with me in a civil manner.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-10   15:44:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SonOfLiberty (#7)

You expect me to answer you, after you just called me a selfish jerk and proclaimed that you want to put me into a cattle car?

If you want civil discussion, you're going to have to try it the non-Obama way, and start out conversations with me in a civil manner.

Well, that just don't make no sense.

So you want me to kiss your ass (and tell you your shit don't stink) but yet you want me to try it the "non-obama way"?

You are confused, obviously.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-10   15:49:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Clitora (#9)

It makes perfect sense.

I made one post on the thread, that was a joke (and clearly so).

You respond by calling me (and others) selfish jerks that you'd like to round up and put in cattle cars.

Simply posing your question without the sneering insults is not "kissing my ass", and you know it. Grow up, learn to interact with others like a mature adult, or you're on bozo. Fair warning.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-10   15:51:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: SonOfLiberty (#10)

So, I take it NONE OF YOU can actually debate anything, but instead would rather satisfy yourself by whining (while excusing yourself from having to be intellectually honest).

Makes sense.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-10   16:06:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Clitora (#12)

Being intellectually honest does not mean you have to call names or make ad hominem attacks as your initial post to any given forum member.

And you know it.

Your assertions about the "military industrial complex", are bogus, there is no secret super duper technology that they as a group of hundreds of thousand could keep secret for any length of time, the group of people is too vast for that level of security to hold credibly. There is simply nothing to debate. However, if you'd tried being something other than shrill, you might have gotten that answer sooner.

If you find that intellectual honesty requires name calling and sneering to somebody who has said nothing to you or against you on a thread, then you'll profit better to address somebody other than me. I've had it with your kind, and frankly, am not wont to give you folks the benefit of the doubt any longer. Grow up, or be ignored by an ever increasing number of your intended audience.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-10   16:12:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: SonOfLiberty (#13)

are bogus, there is no secret super duper technology that they as a group of hundreds of thousand could keep secret for any length of time, the group of people is too vast for that level of security to hold credibly.

Your opinion stated as fact does not make it so. I know you and your ilk don't like to be challenged (intellectually) that much, but at least fake it for your followers.lol

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-10   16:16:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Clitora (#19)

And, you're on bozo. I'm not here for your entertainment, statist. Since you mentioned you'd like to put me on a cattle car, I can only assume that you're the kind of person who would do such a thing in real life if given a chance. Have fun debating yourself.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-10   16:19:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: SonOfLiberty (#20)

Since you mentioned you'd like to put me on a cattle car, I can only assume that you're the kind of person who would do such a thing in real life if given a chance.

He's already commented that libertarians are flat earthers.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-09-10   16:41:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: farmfriend, SonOfLiberty (#24)

He's already commented that libertarians are flat earthers.

You mean the Earth is not flat? WOW!, who knew...LOLOL

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-09-10   16:46:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Refinersfire (#26) (Edited)

Never mind, stupid reply. I'll try again later if I think of something better.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-09-10   18:03:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: farmfriend (#33)

Before I hit Ignore Thread, the thought crossed what's left of my mind that you change your nic to WarmFriend. ;_)

Lod  posted on  2009-09-10   18:43:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Lod (#34)

that you change your nic to WarmFriend.

LOL I like it.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-09-10   19:06:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: farmfriend (#36)

Yes, it's much better than my ill-advised nic change a few weeks back.

Time to figger out what's to be grilled for dinner this evening, and hoping that a trip to the grocer is not required.

Lod  posted on  2009-09-10   19:12:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Lod (#37)

Yes, it's much better than my ill-advised nic change a few weeks back.

Hmmm, I don't remember that one. I did consider a nick change back when everyone seemed to be switching. I'm always open to suggestions for humor sake alone if nothing else.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-09-10   19:16:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: farmfriend (#38)

Let's just say that 'Nigger Jim' didn't get all that much love, but we had a great discussion of Huck Finn and who was the good guy, etc.

There are some really smart, and very well-read members here; and I enjoy reading their thoughts and takes on various books.

Lod  posted on  2009-09-10   20:51:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Lod (#40)

Let's just say that 'Nigger Jim' didn't get all that much love,

Oh yes that I do remember.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-09-10   20:54:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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