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Title: Archaeological Cover-Ups (Forbidden Archaeology)
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URL Source: http://www.unitedearth.com.au/forbidden.html#z
Published: Sep 10, 2009
Author: Will Hart
Post Date: 2009-09-10 16:09:11 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Forbidden, Archaeology, Darwin, Theory
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Extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 9, Number 3 (April-May 2002) PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia. editor@nexusmagazine.com Telephone: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 From our web page at: www.nexusmagazine.com by Will Hart © 2002 Email: Wrtsearch1@aol.com "The Brain Police" and "The Big Lie" Any time you allege a conspiracy is afoot, especially in the field of science, you are treading on thin ice. We tend to be very sceptical about conspiracies--unless the Mafia or some Muslim radicals are behind the alleged plot. But the evidence is overwhelming and the irony is that much of it is in plain view. The good news is that the players are obvious. Their game plan and even their play-by-play tactics are transparent, once you learn to spot them. However, it is not so easy to penetrate through the smokescreen of propaganda and disinformation to get to their underlying motives and goals. It would be convenient if we could point to a plumber's unit and a boldface liar like Richard Nixon, but this is a more subtle operation. The bad news: the conspiracy is global and there are many vested interest groups. A cursory investigation yields the usual suspects: scientists with a theoretical axe to grind, careers to further and the status quo to maintain. Their modus operandi is "The Big Lie"--and the bigger and more widely publicised, the better. They rely on invoking their academic credentials to support their arguments, and the presumption is that no one has the right to question their authoritarian pronouncements that: 1. there is no mystery about who built the Great Pyramid or what the methods of construction were, and the Sphinx shows no signs of water damage; 2. there were no humans in the Americas before 20,000 BC; 3. the first civilisation dates back no further than 6000 BC; 4. there are no documented anomalous, unexplained or enigmatic data to take into account; 5. there are no lost or unaccounted-for civilisations. Let the evidence to the contrary be damned! Personal Attacks: Dispute over Age of the Sphinx and Great Pyramid In 1993, NBC in the USA aired The Mysteries of the Sphinx, which presented geological evidence showing that the Sphinx was at least twice as old (9,000 years) as Egyptologists claimed. It has become well known as the "water erosion controversy". An examination of the politicking that Egyptologists deployed to combat this undermining of their turf is instructive. Self-taught Egyptologist John Anthony West brought the water erosion issue to the attention of geologist Dr Robert Schoch. They went to Egypt and launched an intensive on-site investigation. After thoroughly studying the Sphinx first hand, the geologist came to share West's preliminary conclusion and they announced their findings. Dr Zahi Hawass, the Giza Monuments chief, wasted no time in firing a barrage of public criticism at the pair. Renowned Egyptologist Dr Mark Lehner, who is regarded as the world's foremost expert on the Sphinx, joined his attack. He charged West and Schoch with being "ignorant and insensitive". That was a curious accusation which took the matter off the professional level and put the whole affair on a personal plane. It did not address the facts or issues at all and it was highly unscientific. But we must note the standard tactic of discrediting anyone who dares to call the accepted theories into question. Shifting the focus away from the issues and "personalising" the debate is a highly effective strategy--one which is often used by politicians who feel insecure about their positions. Hawass and Lehner invoked their untouchable status and presumed authority. (One would think that a geologist's assessment would hold more weight on this particular point.) A short time later, Schoch, Hawass and Lehner were invited to debate the issue at the AmericanAssociation for the Advancement of Science. West was not allowed to participate because he lacked the required credentials. This points to a questionable assumption that is part of the establishment's arsenal: only degreed scientists can practise science. Two filters keep the uncredentialled, independent researcher out of the loop: (1) credentials, and (2) peer review. You do not get to number two unless you have number one. Science is a method that anyone can learn and apply. It does not require a degree to observe and record facts and think critically about them, especially in the non-technical social sciences. In a free and open society, science has to be a democratic process. Be that as it may, West was barred. The elements of the debate have been batted back and forth since then without resolution. It is similar to the controversy over who built the Giza pyramids and how. This brings up the issue of The Big Lie and how it has been promoted for generations in front of God and everyone. The controversy over how the Great Pyramid was constructed is one example. It could be easily settled if Egyptologists wanted to resolve the dispute. A simple test could be designed and arranged by impartial engineers that would either prove or disprove their longstanding disputed theory--that it was built using the primitive tools and methods of the day, circa 2500 BC. Why hasn't this been done? The answer is so obvious, it seems impossible: they know that the theory is bogus. Could a trained, highly educated scientist really believe that 2.3 million tons of stone, some blocks weighing 70 tons, could have been transported and lifted by primitive methods? That seems improbable, though they have no compunction against lying to the public, writing textbooks and defending this theory against alternative theories. However, we must note that they will not subject themselves to the bottom-line test. We think it is incumbent upon any scientist to bear the burden of proof of his/her thesis; however, the social scientists who make these claims have never stood up to that kind of scrutiny. That is why we must suspect a conspiracy. No other scientific discipline would get away with bending the rules of science. All that Egyptologists have ever done is bat down alternative theories using underhanded tactics. It is time to insist that they prove their own proposals. Why would scientists try to hide the truth and avoid any test of their hypothesis? Their motivations are equally transparent. If it can be proved that the Egyptians did not build the Great Pyramid in 2500 BC using primitive methods, or if the Sphinx can be dated to 9000 BC, the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. Orthodox views of cultural evolution are based upon a chronology of civilisation having started in Sumeria no earlier than 4000 BC. The theory does not permit an advanced civilisation to have existed prior to that time. End of discussion. Archaeology and history lose their meaning without a fixed timeline as a point of reference. Since the theory of "cultural evolution" has been tied to Darwin's general theory of evolution, even more is at stake. Does this explain why facts, anomalies and enigmas are denied, suppressed and/or ignored? Yes, it does. The biological sciences today are based on Darwinism. Pressure Tactics: The Ica Stones of Peru Now we turn to another, very different case. In 1966, Dr Javier Cabrera received a stone as a gift from a poor local farmer in his native Ica, Peru. A fish was carved on the stone, which would not have meant much to the average villager but it did mean a lot to the educated Dr Cabrera. He recognised it as a long-extinct species. This aroused his curiosity. He purchased more stones from the farmer, who said he had collected them near the river after a flood. Dr Cabrera accumulated more and more stones, and word of their existence and potential import reached the archaeological community. Soon, the doctor had amassed thousands of "Ica stones". The sophisticated carvings were as enigmatic as they were fascinating. Someone had carved men fighting with dinosaurs, men with telescopes and men performing operations with surgical equipment. They also contained drawings of lost continents. Several of the stones were sent to Germany and the etchings were dated to remote antiquity. But we all know that men could not have lived at the time of dinosaurs; Homo sapiens has only existed for about 100,000 years. The BBC got wind of this discovery and swooped down to produce a documentary about the Ica stones. The media exposure ignited a storm of controversy. Archaeologists criticised the Peruvian government for being lax about enforcing antiquities laws (but that was not their real concern). Pressure was applied to government officials. The farmer who had been selling the stones to Cabrera was arrested; he claimed to have found them in a cave but refused to disclose the exact location to authorities, or so they claimed. This case was disposed of so artfully that it would do any corrupt politician proud. The Peruvian government threatened to prosecute and imprison the farmer. He was offered and accepted a plea bargain; he then recanted his story and "admitted" to having carved the stones himself. That seems highly implausible, since he was uneducated and unskilled and there were 11,000 stones in all. Some were fairly large and intricately carved with animals and scenes that the farmer would not have had knowledge of without being a palaeontologist. He would have needed to work every day for several decades to produce that volume of stones. However, the underlying facts were neither here nor there. The Ica stones were labelled "hoax" and forgotten. The case did not require a head-to-head confrontation or public discrediting of non-scientists by scientists; it was taken care of with invisible pressure tactics. Since it was filed under "hoax", the enigmatic evidence never had to be dealt with, as it did in the next example. Censorship of "Forbidden" Thinking: Evidence for Mankind's Great Antiquity The case of author Michael Cremo is well documented, and it also demonstrates how the scientific establishment openly uses pressure tactics on the media and government. His book Forbidden Archeology examines many previously ignored examples of artifacts that prove modern man's antiquity far exceeds the age given in accepted chronologies. The examples which he and his co-author present are controversial, but the book became far more controversial than the contents when it was used in a documentary. In 1996, NBC broadcast a special called The Mysterious Origins of Man, which featured material from Cremo's book. The reaction from the scientific community went off the Richter scale. NBC was deluged with letters from irate scientists who called the producer "a fraud" and the whole program "a hoax". But the scientists went further than this--a lot further. In an extremely unconscionable sequence of bizarre moves, they tried to force NBC not to rebroadcast the popular program, but that effort failed. Then they took the most radical step of all: they presented their case to the federal government and requested the Federal Communications Commission to step in and bar NBC from airing the program again. This was not only an apparent infringement of free speech and a blatant attempt to thwart commerce, it was an unprecedented effort to censor intellectual discourse. If the public or any government agency made an attempt to handcuff the scientific establishment, the public would never hear the end of it. The letter to the FCC written by Dr Allison Palmer, President of the Institute for Cambrian Studies, is revealing: At the very least, NBC should be required to make substantial prime-time apologies to their viewing audience for a sufficient period of time so that the audience clearly gets the message that they were duped. In addition, NBC should perhaps be fined sufficiently so that a major fund for public science education can be established. I think we have some good leads on who "the Brain Police" are. And I really do not think "conspiracy" is too strong a word--because for every case of this kind of attempted suppression that is exposed, 10 others are going on successfully. We have no idea how many enigmatic artifacts or dates have been labelled "error" and tucked away in storage warehouses or circular files, never to see the light of day. Data Rejection: Inconvenient Dating in Mexico Then there is the high-profile case of Dr Virginia Steen-McIntyre, a geologist working for the US Geological Survey (USGS), who was dispatched to an archaeological site in Mexico to date a group of artifacts in the 1970s. This travesty also illustrates how far established scientists will go to guard orthodox tenets. McIntyre used state-of-the-art equipment and backed up her results by using four different methods, but her results were off the chart. The lead archaeologist expected a date of 25,000 years or less, and the geologist's finding was 250,000 years or more. The figure of 25,000 years or less was critical to the Bering Strait "crossing" theory, and it was the motivation behind the head archaeologist's tossing Steen-McIntyre's results in the circular file and asking for a new series of dating tests. This sort of reaction does not occur when dates match the expected chronological model that supports accepted theories. Steen-McIntyre was given a chance to retract her conclusions, but she refused. She found it hard thereafter to get her papers published and she lost a teaching job at an American university. Government Suppression and Ethnocentrism: Avoiding Anomalous Evidence in NZ, China and Mexico In New Zealand, the government actually stepped in and enacted a law forbidding the public from entering a controversial archaeological zone. This story appeared in the book, Ancient Celtic New Zealand, by Mark Doutré. However, as we will find (and as I promised at the beginning of the article), this is a complicated conspiracy. Scientists trying to protect their "hallowed" theories while furthering their careers are not the only ones who want artifacts and data suppressed. This is where the situation gets sticky. The Waipoua Forest became a controversial site in New Zealand because an archaeological dig apparently showed evidence of a non-Polynesian culture that preceded the Maori--a fact that the tribe was not happy with. They learned of the results of the excavations before the general public did and complained to the government. According to Doutré, the outcome was "an official archival document, which clearly showed an intention by New Zealand government departments to withhold archaeological information from public scrutiny for 75 years". The public got wind of this fiasco but the government denied the claim. However, official documents show that an embargo had been placed on the site. Doutré is a student of New Zealand history and archaeology. He is concerned because he says that artifacts proving that there was an earlier culture which preceded the Maori are missing from museums. He asks what happened to several anomalous remains: Where are the ancient Indo-European hair samples (wavy red brown hair), originally obtained from a rock shelter near Watakere, that were on display at the Auckland War Memorial Museum for many years? Where is the giant skeleton found near Mitimati? Unfortunately this is not the only such incident. Ethnocentrism has become a factor in the conspiracy to hide mankind's true history. Author Graham Hancock has been attacked by various ethnic groups for reporting similar enigmatic findings. The problem for researchers concerned with establishing humanity's true history is that the goals of nationalists or ethnic groups who want to lay claim to having been in a particular place first, often dovetail with the goals of cultural evolutionists. Archaeologists are quick to go along with suppressing these kinds of anomalous finds. One reason Egyptologists so jealously guard the Great Pyramid's construction date has to do with the issue of national pride. The case of the Takla Makan Desert mummies in western China is another example of this phenomenon. In the 1970s and 1980s, an unaccounted-for Caucasian culture was suddenly unearthed in China. The arid environment preserved the remains of a blond-haired, blue-eyed people who lived in pre-dynastic China. They wore colourful robes, boots, stockings and hats. The Chinese were not happy about this revelation and they have downplayed the enigmatic find, even though Asians were found buried alongside the Caucasian mummies. National Geographic writer Thomas B. Allen mused in a 1996 article about his finding a potsherd bearing a fingerprint of the potter. When he inquired if he could take the fragment to a forensic anthropologist, the Chinese scientist asked whether he "would be able to tell if the potter was a white man". Allen said he was not sure, and the official pocketed the fragment and quietly walked away. It appears that many things get in the way of scientific discovery and disclosure. The existence of the Olmec culture in Old Mexico has always posed a problem. Where did the Negroid people depicted on the colossal heads come from? Why are there Caucasians carved on the stele in what is Mexico's seed civilisation? What is worse, why aren't the indigenous Mexican people found on the Olmec artifacts? Recently a Mexican archaeologist solved the problem by making a fantastic claim: that the Olmec heads--which generations of people of all ethnic groups have agreed bear a striking resemblance to Africans--were really representations of the local tribe. Stormtroopers For Darwinism The public does not seem at all aware of the fact that the scientific establishment has a double standard when it comes to the free flow of information. In essence, it goes like this... Scientists are highly educated, well trained and intellectually capable of processing all types of information, and they can make the correct critical distinctions between fact and fiction, reality and fantasy. The unwashed public is simply incapable of functioning on this high mental plane. The noble ideal of the scientist as a highly trained, impartial, apolitical observer and assembler of established facts into a useful body of knowledge seems to have been shredded under the pressures and demands of the real world. Science has produced many positive benefits for society; but we should know by now that science has a dark, negative side. Didn't those meek fellows in the clean lab coats give us nuclear bombs and biological weapons? The age of innocence ended in World War II. That the scientific community has an attitude of intellectual superiority is thinly veiled under a carefully orchestrated public relations guise. We always see Science and Progress walking hand in hand. Science as an institution in a democratic society has to function in the same way as the society at large; it should be open to debate, argument and counter-argument. There is no place for unquestioned authoritarianism. Is modern science meeting these standards? In the Fall of 2001, PBS aired a seven-part series, titled Evolution. Taken at face value, that seems harmless enough. However, while the program was presented as pure, objective, investigative science journalism, it completely failed to meet even minimum standards of impartial reporting. The series was heavily weighted towards the view that the theory of evolution is "a science fact" that is accepted by "virtually all reputable scientists in the world", and not a theory that has weaknesses and strong scientific critics. The series did not even bother to interview scientists who have criticisms of Darwinism: not "creationists" but bona fide scientists. To correct this deficiency, a group of 100 dissenting scientists felt compelled to issue a press release, "A Scientific Dissent on Darwinism", on the day the first program was scheduled to go to air. Nobel nominee Henry "Fritz" Schaefer was among them. He encouraged open public debate of Darwin's theory: Some defenders of Darwinism embrace standards of evidence for evolution that as scientists they would never accept in other circumstances. We have seen this same "unscientific" approach applied to archaeology and anthropology, where "scientists" simply refuse to prove their theories yet appoint themselves as the final arbiters of "the facts". It would be naive to think that the scientists who cooperated in the production of the series were unaware that there would be no counter-balancing presentation by critics of Darwin's theory. Richard Milton is a science journalist. He had been an ardent true believer in Darwinian doctrine until his investigative instincts kicked in one day. After 20 years of studying and writing about evolution, he suddenly realised that there were many disconcerting holes in the theory. He decided to try to allay his doubts and prove the theory to himself by using the standard methods of investigative journalism. Milton became a regular visitor to London's famed Natural History Museum. He painstakingly put every main tenet and classic proof of Darwinism to the test. The results shocked him. He found that the theory could not even stand up to the rigours of routine investigative journalism. The veteran science writer took a bold step and published a book titled The Facts of Life: Shattering the Myths of Darwinism. It is clear that the Darwinian myth had been shattered for him, but many more myths about science would also be crushed after his book came out. Milton says: I experienced the witch-hunting activity of the Darwinist police at first handÉit was deeply disappointing to find myself being described by a prominent Oxford zoologist [Richard Dawkins] as "loony", "stupid" and "in need of psychiatric help" in response to purely scientific reporting. (Does this sound like stories that came out of the Soviet Union 20 years ago when dissident scientists there started speaking out?) Dawkins launched a letter-writing campaign to newspaper editors, implying that Milton was a "mole" creationist whose work should be dismissed. Anyone at all familiar with politics will recognise this as a standard Machiavellian by-the-book "character assassination" tactic. Dawkins is a highly respected scientist, whose reputation and standing in the scientific community carry a great deal of weight. According to Milton, the process came to a head when the London Times Higher Education Supplement commissioned him to write a critique of Darwinism. The publication foreshadowed his coming piece: "Next Week: Darwinism - Richard Milton goes on the attack". Dawkins caught wind of this and wasted no time in nipping this heresy in the bud. He contacted the editor, Auriol Stevens, and accused Milton of being a "creationist", and prevailed upon Stevens to pull the plug on the article. Milton learned of this behind-the-scenes backstabbing and wrote a letter of appeal to Stevens. In the end, she caved in to Dawkins and scratched the piece. Imagine what would happen if a politician or bureaucrat used such pressure tactics to kill a story in the mass media. It would ignite a huge scandal. Not so with scientists, who seem to be regarded as "sacred cows" and beyond reproach. There are many disturbing facts related to these cases. Darwin's theory of evolution is the only theory routinely taught in our public school system that has never been subjected to rigorous scrutiny; nor have any of the criticisms been allowed into the curriculum. This is an interesting fact, because a recent poll showed that the American public wants the theory of evolution taught to their children; however, "71 per cent of the respondents say biology teachers should teach both Darwinism and scientific evidence against Darwinian theory". Nevertheless, there are no plans to implement this balanced approach. It is ironic that Richard Dawkins has been appointed to the position of Professor of the Public Understanding of Science at Oxford University. He is a classic "Brain Police" stormtrooper, patrolling the neurological front lines. The Western scientific establishment and mass media pride themselves on being open public forums devoid of prejudice or censorship. However, no television program examining the flaws and weaknesses of Darwinism has ever been aired in Darwin's home country or in America. A scientist who opposes the theory cannot get a paper published. The Mysterious Origins of Man was not a frontal attack on Darwinism; it merely presented evidence that is considered anomalous by the precepts of his theory of evolution. Returning to our bastions of intellectual integrity, Forest Mims was a solid and skilled science journalist. He had never been the centre of any controversy and so he was invited to write the most-read column in the prestigious Scientific American, "The Amateur Scientist", a task he gladly accepted. According to Mims, the magazine's editor Jonathan Piel then learned that he also wrote articles for a number of Christian magazines. The editor called Mims into his office and confronted him. "Do you believe in the theory of evolution?" Piel asked. Mims replied, "No, and neither does Stephen Jay Gould." His response did not affect Piel's decision to bump Mims off the popular column after just three articles. This has the unpleasant odour of a witch-hunt. The writer never publicly broadcast his private views or beliefs, so it would appear that the "stormtroopers" now believe they have orders to make sure "unapproved" thoughts are never publicly disclosed. Taboo Or Not Taboo? So, the monitors of "good thinking" are not just the elite of the scientific community, as we have seen in several cases; they are television producers and magazine editors as well. It seems clear that they are all driven by the singular imperative of furthering "public science education", as the president of the Cambrian Institute so aptly phrased it. However, there is a second item on the agenda, and that is to protect the public from "unscientific" thoughts and ideas that might infect the mass mind. We outlined some of those taboo subjects at the beginning of the article; now we should add that it is also "unwholesome" and "unacceptable" to engage in any of the following research pursuits: paranormal phenomena, UFOs, cold fusion, free energy and all the rest of the "pseudo-sciences". Does this have a familiar ring to it? Are we hearing the faint echoes of religious zealotry? Who ever gave science the mission of engineering and directing the inquisitive pursuits of the citizenry of the free world? It is all but impossible for any scientific paper that has anti-Darwinian ramifications to be published in a mainstream scientific journal. It is also just as impossible to get the "taboo" subjects even to the review table, and you can forget about finding your name under the title of any article in Nature unless you are a credentialled scientist, even if you are the next Albert Einstein. To restate how this conspiracy begins, it is with two filters: credentials and peer review. Modern science is now a maze of such filters set up to promote certain orthodox theories and at the same time filter out that data already prejudged to be unacceptable. Evidence and merit are not the guiding principles; conformity and position within the established community have replaced objectivity, access and openness. Scientists do not hesitate to launch the most outrageous personal attacks against those they perceive to be the enemy. Eminent palaeontologist Louis Leakey penned this acid one-liner about Forbidden Archeology: "Your book is pure humbug and does not deserve to be taken seriously by anyone but a fool." Once again, we see the thrust of a personal attack; the merits of the evidence presented in the book are not examined or debated. It is a blunt, authoritarian pronouncement. In a forthcoming instalment, we will examine some more documented cases and delve deeper into thesubtler dimensions of the conspiracy. References and Resources: ¥ Cremo, Michael A. and Richard L. Thompson, Forbidden Archeology, Govardhan Hill, USA, 1993. ¥ Cremo, Michael A., "The Controversy over 'The Mysterious Origins of Man'", NEXUS 5/04, 1998; Forbidden Archeology's Impact, Bhaktivedanta Book Publishing, USA, 1998, website http://www.mcremo.com. ¥ Doore, Kathy, "The Nazca Spaceport & the Ica Stones of Peru", http://www.labyrinthina.com/ica.htm; see website for copy of Dr Javier Cabrera's book, The Message of the Engraved Stones. ¥ Doutré, Mark, Ancient Celtic New Zealand, Dé Danann, New Zealand, 1999, website http://www.celticnz.co.nz. ¥ Milton, Richard, The Facts of Life: Shattering the Myths of Darwinism, Corgi, UK, 1993, http://www.alternativescience.com. ¥ Steen-McIntyre, Virginia, "Suppressed Evidence for Ancient Man in Mexico", NEXUS 5/05, 1998. ¥ Sunfellow, David, "The Great Pyramid & The Sphinx", November 25, 1994, at http://www.nhne.com/specialrepots/spyramid.html. ¥ Tampa Bay Tribune, October 12, 2001 (Darwinism/evolution quote), http://www.tampatrib.com. About the Author: Will Hart is a freelance journalist, book author, nature photographer and documentary filmmaker. He lives and does much of his research in the Lake Tahoe area in the USA, and writes a column titled "The Tahoe Naturalist" for a regional publication. He has produced and directed films about wolves and wild horses.
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#33. To: Original_Intent (#32)
Actually, the feds wanted to know how he did it. He didn't so they kicked his ass. He died soon after.
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
That makes my nasty suspicious mind wonder if he was whacked, or whether it was just an old man beat beyond his ability to recover. Do you have a link for that perchance?
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
"Sceptical" is the commonly accepted British spelling of the word. Just FYI.
Yes, truly interesting. He was on to something but took it with him to the grave.
#34. To: Clitora (#33)
He didn't so they kicked his ass. He died soon after.
#35. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#10)
I stopped reading at this point for the simple fact that if you're a scientist, you should at least have the intelligence to use a spell check, or be learned enough to know how to spell SKEPTICAL.
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#36. To: Original_Intent (#34)
Do you have a link for that perchance? My friend went there after I told him about it. A guy there told him the story. I doubt it is something they put in pamphlets.
That makes my nasty suspicious mind wonder if he was whacked, or whether it was just an old man beat beyond his ability to recover.
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
#37. To: Clitora (#36)
Got it.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#38. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#12)
The Chinese are not the only ones. Viewzone, an e-zine which reports on anomalies, carried a story a few years ago about a very large stone fortress/city that was discovered in the American midwest. The relic was reburied and the owner threatened to keep his yap shut if he knew what was good for him. In 1881 the Arizona Gazette reported on a Smithsonian expedition to recover Egyptian relics from a cave in the Grand Canyon. Today the Smithsonian denies it ever occurred and the several boxcars of relics have, as in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" - disappeared. Other anomalous finds have popped up here and there around the planet only to be quickly suppressed and "disappeared". Someone, some group, does not want our viewpoint shifted by the knowledge of mankind's true antiquity.
Let's not forget the red haired caucasian giants of China. That kind of threw the Chinese for a loop on that discovery, as they are STILL trying to cover that up.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#39. To: Original_Intent (#38)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#40. To: Original_Intent (#9)
Great links, thank you for posting them!
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#41. To: wudidiz, HighLairEon, TommyTheMadArtist, farmfriend, Clitora, christine, TwentyTwelve, Kamala, , RickyJ, Elliott Jackalope, James Deffenbach, Lod, MUDDOG, gengis gandhi, IndieTX, Flintlock, All (#39) (Edited)
Thank you for the link It was hard to force myself to read it as I feel so strongly on the subject and just so absolutely outraged over this kind of psychotic destruction of ancient sites. It is of course, as I have commented before, about power and control. Were the average person to become aware of these kinds of sites, while many would be incurious, many others would be inspired, have their minds awakened. and begin with their active intelligence to question other assumptions "that everybody knows". I cannot help but think of a Robert Heinlein comment when I mention everybody knows - "If everybody knows then it is almost certainly wrong by odds of 10 to 1". That's probably not verbatim but you get the point. We live in a very controlled society and yet most people do not realize just how controlled they are. When you can control what a person knows you control what they can see and what they are capable of thinking about. This in turn controls the level of industry and the level of resistance to tyranny. As an aside this is why the repeated attacks against Home Schooling. Home schoolers are not taught the carefully controlled official "knowledge" and thus are outside the control paradigm. Of course many still do break out of that paradigm but we are a small minority compared to the vast herd lost in their fog of half truths and inconsequential and irrational fears. If people were made aware that we have had at least one, if not more, previous technologically advanced cultures on this planet they would start asking what happened to them? And, most importantly, how do we avoid the same fate. There are evidences, both physical and written in the Indian Vedas, that suggest a nuclear war in pre-history. How would that change how people think? About themselves? About our culture? About those in leadership positions? I have read hints and rumors that the Illuminati/Masons have texts and knowledge, restricted now only to their highest levels and initiates, which contain some of this knowledge handed down in written form. For whatever venal reasons of power and control it is, like the knowledge of the truly great antiquity of human origins, is held secret and hidden from the hoi polloi. It just wouldn't do to have the serfs become too knowledgeable and "uppity". After all look at what happened with an educated youth in the late 60's. Of course the dumbing down was already being done but was not as complete or as rigid as it is now. I could go into despair over what has, is being, been done by the psychotics in control, but their are forces in place fighting to counter it. They are growing and "good lord willin' and the creek don't rise" will succeed. Knowledge and truth are much more powerful than the lies. One of the most powerful weapons in our arsenal is to support adult literacy programs which serve to counter the intentional creation of ignorance. Encourage others to turn off the telly and pick up a book. I am so thankful that I stopped watching television because now 6 years or so down the road I have learned so much more and had my universe expand so much as a result that I could never go back to the mind numbing pablum that is pushed as mass "entertainment". I am reminded of a comment by the late J.B.S. Haldane (while I think it a little hyperbolic - believing as I do that anything that can be conceived of by the mind of man can be understood by the mind of man - nevertheless is does hint at a basic truth: In short the universe passed down to us in the controlled texts run through the knowledge filter is not only not the complete truth it is often not true at all, and false impressions can be created by both faulty knowledge and lack of knowledge. (Edited to add an additional link.)
"The universe is not only stranger than we think it is stranger than we can think."
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#42. To: X-15 (#40)
You are most welcome. 
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#43. To: Original_Intent (#41)
They didn't follow (insert religion here) so they perished. That is what people will say.
If people were made aware that we have had at least one, if not more, previous technologically advanced cultures on this planet they would start asking what happened to them? And, most importantly, how do we avoid the same fate.
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
#44. To: Original_Intent (#41)
Edgar Cayce predicted that the civilizations of Atlantis and Mu would reemerge in recent years and many American Indian predictions center around the demise of a white race after it starts wars around the world. Hmmmmmmmm
#45. To: mininggold (#44)
I think he meant that people would re-discover our roots. Never heard of demise of white race, but a lot of indians hated all whites.
Edgar Cayce predicted that the civilizations of Atlantis and Mu would reemerge in recent years and many American Indian predictions center around the demise of a white race after it starts wars around the world. Hmmmmmmmm
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
#46. To: Clitora (#45)
They didn't know ANY whites when these traditions and predictions were created. You do remember that the Aztecs were looking for the return of the Great White Father when Cortez showed up? So were many other Indian tribes.
er heard of demise of white race, but a lot of indians hated all whites.
#47. To: Clitora (#45)
You need to read Edgar Cayce more closely, he was pretty blunt with most of his predictions.
I think he meant that people would re-discover our roots.
#48. To: mininggold (#46)
They didn't know ANY whites when these traditions and predictions were created. You do remember that the Aztecs were looking for the return of the Great White Father when Cortez showed up? So were many other Indian tribes. I don't believe that. The planet has had many invasions and movements of vast amounts of people. And it seems that most of the so called "natives" had the same theory that some white "god" would come to them. But all these "gods" did was destroy them. It seems like a lot of myths and legends are cultural brainwashing due to lack of inner sight.
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
#49. To: mininggold (#47)
Show it to me. I don't have access to the originals, they are in virginia beach somewhere.
You need to read Edgar Cayce more closely, he was pretty blunt with most of his predictions.
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
#50. To: Clitora (#43)
They didn't follow (insert religion here) so they perished. That is what people will say. I do agree that SOME would say that, but not ALL. The problem the controlling Psychiatrists face is that their regimen of mental control requires two things which are undercut by evidence indicating a much greater antiquity for mankind. SOME people are excited to new levels of thought and awareness by unraveling these kinds of mysteries. Also it cuts across their mechanisms of trying to make every day the same as the last. No change = no possibility of overthrowing them. Their control regime relies upon people remaining unaware of what they are doing and the moment people do become aware is the moment their control begins to slip. That is why the frantic need to keep the mountains of evidence, literally mountains as some of the ancient structures have become covered with dirt, debris, and foliage, buried. With this knowledge becoming available that undercuts not only the sameness but the Social Darwinism they use to justify their predations upon mankind.
If people were made aware that we have had at least one, if not more, previous technologically advanced cultures on this planet they would start asking what happened to them? And, most importantly, how do we avoid the same fate.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#51. To: Clitora (#49)
His books and records are everywhere, go to his website. I have hardly posted a NEW statement regarding Cayce's prophecies. His medical cures and treatments often were remarkable, you should look them up sometime.
don't have access to the originals, they are in virginia beach somewhere.
#52. To: Original_Intent, All (#41) (Edited)
You nailed the main reason to hide the big picture about the true history of human life on this planet and it ties directly into the suppression of evidence concerning extra-terrestrial civilizations as well: control over the masses. How're you going to keep them on down on the farm if they know of or can see the city lights? How would you sell the Big Lies of scarcity, exclusive elite access to spiritual power, and human limitation once it is seen or can be known that we are in at least the third or fourth wave cycle of human civilization on this planet AND that the race has reached higher levels of knowledge and technology in the previous cycles AND that we are but one experiment among a vast array of experiments in this Universe, exploring the infusion of Universal consciousness into physically limted forms? Pull one of these threads out of the curtain of ignorance and the controller's gambit becomes impossible. Ignorance is power after all but power over the ignorant by the less ignorant is what that implies. How do you control a potentially unlimited being? Limit the power at its source, limit consciousness by limiting knowledge and its free arc of discovery and tell damned lies about the knowledge of the deep stuff, just to make it more of a challenge for the Houdini within to escape. Occasionally, as a test and to see what the latest mind control strategies and tactics have become, I resample the sludge and it gives me physical symptoms within a few minutes, not to mention the psychic depression and fear hangover that can last the entire day, or at least until I meditate again. Perhaps my nervous system is less robust than most but the electronic mass media has always had a visceral impact on me, such that I cannot stand for long to be in a place that has it piped in anywhere! That rules out air travel (terminals, aptly named), bars, nightclubs, waiting rooms of all kinds etc., but for me, peace of mind is the pearl of great price...
For whatever venal reasons of power and control it is, like the knowledge of the truly great antiquity of human origins, is held secret and hidden from the hoi polloi. It just wouldn't do to have the serfs become too knowledgeable and "uppity". After all look at what happened with an educated youth in the late 60's. Of course the dumbing down was already being done but was not as complete or as rigid as it is now.
I am so thankful that I stopped watching television because now 6 years or so down the road I have learned so much more and had my universe expand so much as a result that I could never go back to the mind numbing pablum that is pushed as mass "entertainment".
It is amazing what the simple expedient of avoiding the Media Matrix's sewage can do for the mind! I kicked the habit years ago as well.
Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when that card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ashes of the totalitarian game!
#53. To: Original_Intent (#50)
It cannot be hidden. That is why they are frantic. There is a vibrational change happening that is waking people up. That is why they have to keep defending their lies.
Their control regime relies upon people remaining unaware of what they are doing and the moment people do become aware is the moment their control begins to slip. That is why the frantic need to keep the mountains of evidence, literally mountains as some of the ancient structures have become covered with dirt, debris, and foliage, buried. With this knowledge becoming available that undercuts not only the sameness but the Social Darwinism they use to justify their predations upon mankind.
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
#54. To: Clitora, mininggold, wudidiz, all (#49)
Show it to me. I don't have access to the originals, they are in virginia beach somewhere. The Cayce predictions have been largely correct - so far as those which have made it into the public domain. As well they form a correspondence with the predictions of Nicolai Nostradamus. When you throw in Native American Prophecy and that of India things become really interesting. Clairvoyance, the true second sight, appears to be real and appears to exist strongly in a very few individuals. My own mother predicted both the JFK and Martin Luther King assassinations about 3 days to a week in advance. There were multiple people who, because their sense of uneasiness, canceled their voyage on the Titanic at the last minute. It is interesting that the Bimini Road was discovered in about the time frame prophesied by Cayce. As well there have been subsequent anomalous discoveries in the area suggesting that there was once a great inhabited land mass in that area.
You need to read Edgar Cayce more closely, he was pretty blunt with most of his predictions.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#55. To: HighLairEon (#52)
I am the same way. I call it sick of the bullshit.
Perhaps my nervous system is less robust than most but the electronic mass media has always had a visceral impact on me, such that I cannot stand for long to be in a place that has it piped in anywhere!
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
#56. To: Original_Intent (#54)
I got a lot of fumbled myths and half truths spread by new age crystal navel gazers honestly.
The Cayce predictions have been largely correct - so far as those which have made it into the public domain. As well they form a correspondence with the predictions of Nicolai Nostradamus. When you throw in Native American Prophecy and that of India things become really interesting.
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
#57. To: HighLairEon (#52)
Again you add some cogent thought and points. Just a couple as I run short on time. This is such a key point that it cannot be over-stressed. The more knowlegable people become the more aware they become. While knowledge alone does not change the individual's native intelligence, which is much higher than people are allowed to think and know, it can awaken it levels the individual was not aware they had. The more information accumulates that enlightens and excites the more it undercuts their, the controlling elites, Psychiatric control programs. Exactly. Most people are unaware of their own power and ability, and they are taught by the system in place that they are small, are one lifetime animals, and are of no consequence. All of this is aimed at keeping them down and unaware of just how truly powerful they are as spiritual beings. The biggest lie of all is that the spirit is limited by the bounds of the physical universe. I think that as one becomes aware of what that media is actually doing the repugnance drives one away in ever increasing degree. If it actually provided useful and enlightening information it might be another story. However, the mass media, as it exists now, is a waste of time and a source of false information. Television = Mind Control.
Pull one of these threads out of the curtain of ignorance and the controller's gambit becomes impossible. Ignorance is power after all but power over the ignorant by the less ignorant is what that implies.
How do you control a potentially unlimited being? Limit the power at its source, limit consciousness by limiting knowledge and its free arc of discovery and tell damed lies about the knowledge of the deep stuff, just to make it more of a challenge for the Houdini within to escape.
Perhaps my nervous system is less robust than most but the electronic mass media has always had a visceral impact on me, such that I cannot stand for long to be in a place that has it piped in anywhere!
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#58. To: Clitora (#56) (Edited)
I got a lot of fumbled myths and half truths spread by new age crystal navel gazers honestly. Some of it just delusion, or questing, or planted false information. The "New Age" Movement at its inception was, I believe, the beginnings of a spiritual awakening, recognized as such by the controllers, and thus seedings of false and misleading information. Just as LSD and "Tune-in, Turn-on, and Drop out" was planted by the CIA and their Psychs to destroy the anti-war movement in the Vietnam Era. Looking inward and chewing on your tail are not productive. The way out of the maze is to look outward, analyze, sort, and weigh the available information. Intuition can be useful but mysticism and fixating inward are dead ends. In the end I am pragmatic. What is true? What is false? What yields a valid result and what does not? That does not require me to be limited to materialist solutions and viewpoints but it does impose a level of rationality and rigor which a lot of the "New Age" movement does not practice. (Edited to revise and clarify - a bit anyway.)
The Cayce predictions have been largely correct - so far as those which have made it into the public domain. As well they form a correspondence with the predictions of Nicolai Nostradamus. When you throw in Native American Prophecy and that of India things become really interesting.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#59. To: Original_Intent (#58)
I don't agree with that. I believe in metaphysics enough to know this is not the only life, that there is more to religion that most can see.
Intuition can be useful but metaphysics and staring inward are dead ends.
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
#60. To: Original_Intent (#54)
Bimini Road is being poo poo'd as evidence because technically it didn't emerge from the sea as predicted
It is interesting that the Bimini Road was discovered in about the time frame prophesied by Cayce. As well there have been subsequent anomalous discoveries in the area suggesting that there was once a great inhabited land mass in that area.
#61. To: Clitora (#56)
Don't be such a snob, just because you don't agree with some of his adherents doesn't mean what he predicted wasn't mostly accurate, in fact for the sheer quantity of predictions he was the most accurate of any historical prophet. And how do you know those crystal gazers are legit?
got a lot of fumbled myths and half truths spread by new age crystal navel gazers honestly.
#62. To: Clitora (#59)
I don't agree with that. I believe in metaphysics enough to know this is not the only life, that there is more to religion that most can see. Metaphysics was probably a bad choice of words. Try "mysticism" which asserts that all may be known by intuition or spontaneous enlightenment or both. The road to enlightenment is one that must be traveled and is not handed out on a silver platter.
Intuition can be useful but metaphysics and staring inward are dead ends.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#63. To: mininggold (#60)
Bimini Road is being poo poo'd as evidence because technically it didn't emerge from the sea as predicted The problem with that though is a matter of interpretation - Cayce's exact words were "emerge from the sea" - not above the sea but from the sea. Thus the Bimini Road, in my humble opinion (not that I am always all that humble), fits.
It is interesting that the Bimini Road was discovered in about the time frame prophesied by Cayce. As well there have been subsequent anomalous discoveries in the area suggesting that there was once a great inhabited land mass in that area.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#64. To: Clitora (#59)
I don't agree with that. I believe in metaphysics enough to know this is not the only life, that there is more to religion that most can see. See my above. I should have said mysticism instead. I'll go back and edit to correct.
Intuition can be useful but metaphysics and staring inward are dead ends.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#65. To: Original_Intent (#62)
The road to enlightenment in this age is as easy as asking with a pure heart. As easy as putting your oar into the water and rowing. You must know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
Metaphysics was probably a bad choice of words. Try "mysticism" which asserts that all may be known by intuition or spontaneous enlightenment or both. The road to enlightenment is one that must be traveled and is not handed out on a silver platter.
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
#66. To: Clitora (#65)
I agree, but first you have to start looking for it, and must do so with the willingness to change your mind and heart based on what you learn.
You must know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#67. To: Original_Intent (#63)
It was discovered in the time frame, it's an easy dive, and has emerged for the viewing by the public. Fits the criteria for me.
The problem with that though is a matter of interpretation - Cayce's exact words were "emerge from the sea" - not above the sea but from the sea. Thus the Bimini Road, in my humble opinion (not that I am always all that humble), fits.
#68. To: HighLairEon, original_intent (#8)
Both of you are excellent at recognizing and deconstructing the psychological propaganda techniques of our time.
#69. To: KinkoTheKlown, Original_Intent (#68) (Edited)
Speaking for myself, not on behalf of the company, I thank you! :) (pun re: some technical forums I frequent)
Both of you are excellent at recognizing and deconstructing the psychological propaganda techniques of our time.
Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when that card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ashes of the totalitarian game!
#70. To: Clitora, mininggold, wudidiz, HighLairEon, farmfriend, all (#48) (Edited)
Actually I might beg to differ somewhat. Most myths and legends have some rooting in actual historical events. Now that is not to say that what is passed on 20 generations later, or 100, is true to the original. Say, hypothetically of course, that a prior advanced culture suffered a nuclear war. What would the survivors, reduced to primitive means and loss of writing etc., interpret those events to be? The war of the Gods perhaps? How would their descendants interpret or understand the technical marvels of only 3 or 4 generations before - a handful of survivors eking out a bare existence in a wasteland. What kind of mutations might occur - a Cyclops perhaps? Giants? Creatures that were spawned of nuclear irradiated placentas? Dragons? Remember Atlantis, per Cayce, and suggested in some legends, destroyed themselves unintentionally through the use of high tech weaponry which is eerily similar in description to Scalar Weapons Technology developed from the work of Nikola Tesla. Cultures are fragile things. Technologically advanced cultures even more so. What would happen if the electrical grid was disabled indefinitely - say 6 months or more? What affects would that have on our current society? With our disposable culture most of what we use daily and take for granted would be unrecognizable 100 years after a societal melt down. What about in a thousand or two thousand? Structural Steel unmended is nothing but a pile of rust in little over a hundred years - oxidized into flakes of red. Wood Structures from the old west are now mostly gone. A few haggard ghost towns still exist but most are crumbling into piles of unrecognizable rotted boards. In another hundred years they will have melted into the ground rotted away. (Edited to fix a punctuation error.)
It seems like a lot of myths and legends are cultural brainwashing due to lack of inner sight.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#71. To: Original_Intent (#70)
All excellent points, thank you.
Cultures are fragile things.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#72. To: wudidiz (#71)
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#73. To: KinkoTheKlown (#68)
Thank you for the kind words.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
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