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Title: Wilson's 'Lie' Remark Floods Foe with Cash - $500K Overnight!
Source: CQ Politics
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Published: Sep 10, 2009
Author: CQ Politics
Post Date: 2009-09-10 16:40:43 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 493
Comments: 40

Democrat Rob Miller's campaign war chest just got a whole lot heavier.

Miller is the Marine Corps veteran challenging Rep. Joe Wilson, the South Carolina Republican who took the opportunity afforded by a joint session of Congress on Wednesday to yell "Lie. You lie," at President Barack Obama.

Progressive Democrats took that as a cue to donate to his opponent, and accounts earmarked for Miller on the progressive Website Actblue jumped from a few thousand dollars to $105,943 between the speech and 9:15 a.m. on Thursday.

At least nine different Miller-linked funds appear to have been created since the speech, including one called "Defeating the man who yelled 'liar' at Obama: Goodbye Rep Joe Wilson' that had collected more than $500,000 overnight.

Wilson beat an underfunded Miller with 53.7 percent of the vote in 2008.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

So? Is this the way we hide the FACT, that Obama lied?

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-09-10   16:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Refinersfire (#1)

So? Is this the way we hide the FACT, that Obama lied?

Absolutely. Anyone who points out that the Obamessiah is a lying sack of shit must be removed from office.

It ist verboten!

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-09-10   16:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#2)

Wilson turns around and grovels. Disgusting.

That SOB was up there LYING to the Congress and to the American people.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-10   17:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

Did Wilson apologize that he "had" a spine?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-10   18:17:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, O_I, all (#4)

Since Wilson's site had so much traffic that it crashed, makes me wonder how much of that was of support, both morally and financially. Just wondering.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-09-10   18:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod, Jethro Tull (#5)

Wilson said someone from the party told him to apologize, he dropped his drawers immediately and bent over.

Shameful.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-10   19:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Refinersfire (#1)

So? Is this the way we hide the FACT, that Obama lied?

Obama didn't lie about this. HR 3200 says in Sec 246, that the Fed Gov won't pay for anyone not legally in the United States.

Though the claim they can have a public option and be budget neutral just does not pass the smell test.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-09-10   19:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rhino369. all (#7)

HR 3200 says in Sec 246, that the Fed Gov won't pay for anyone not legally in the United States.

They also struck-out the proof of eligibility for services section, which effectively makes everyone here eligible.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-09-10   19:08:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#2)

It ist verboten!

It is verboten.

References to the Senate or Executive Branch

Until the 109th Congress, it was not in order to make certain references to the Senate or individual senators. However, at the beginning of that Congress, the House removed the prohibition on making references to the Senate, leaving only the requirement that debate be confined to the question under debate and avoid “personality.” The precedents of the House allow a wide latitude in criticism of the President, other executive officials, and the government itself. However, it is not permissible to use language that is personally offensive to the President, such as referring to him as a “hypocrite” or a “liar.” Similarly, it is not in order to refer to the President as “intellectually dishonest” or an action taken by the President as “cowardly.” References to the Vice President, in spite of his role as President of the Senate, are measured against the standard used for the President rather than prior standards used to govern the Senate.

lucysmom  posted on  2009-09-10   19:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#6)

Wilson said someone from the party told him to apologize, he dropped his drawers immediately and bent over.

Shameful.

Maybe we can urge Ron Paul to author a bill which would allow Reps to call LIARS, LIARS.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-10   19:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: lucysmom, all (#9)

it is not permissible to use language that is personally offensive to the President, such as referring to him as a “hypocrite” or a “liar.”

They protect their own.

Calling someone a liar or hypocrite is not getting into "personalities", it is a statement of fact. But CONgress doesn't deal in facts, just political expediency.

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Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

PSUSA  posted on  2009-09-10   19:20:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: PSUSA. all (#11)

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-09-10   19:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#12)

LOL!!

From what part of your brain did that song emerge from :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-10   19:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

The part that still functions from forty years (or more) ago.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-09-10   19:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#14)

This should melt a few ice cubes.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-10   19:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rhino369 (#7)

I storngly disagree with this part of your post..

"Obama didn't lie about this. HR 3200 says in Sec 246, that the Fed Gov won't pay for anyone not legally in the United States."

Since Rep. Deal's Enforcement of Section 246 Amendment was voted down, just how are you going to stop Illegals, from getting Health Care? Tie that in with the fact that Hospitals and Doctors, are forbidden to check for citizenship under this Bill, and again you are left with the fact, that Illegals will get free Health Care and it will be paid by Legal Citizens like You and I.

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-09-10   19:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#15)

Great, great stuff.

Thanks, it's always nice to be able to understand the lyrics of a song.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-09-10   19:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#9)

He lied.. Joe called him on it.. deal with it..

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-09-10   19:59:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rhino369 (#7)

Some more thoughts to chew on:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/10/rep-wilson-outburst-leads-senate-dems-close-loophole-heal

"The apologies are out of the way and the offense forgiven. But the underlying policy argument remains, after a Congressman drew fire from both sides of the aisle for his outburst during President Obama's speech Wednesday.

Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., was criticized for interrupting Obama's address to a joint session of Congress to accuse the president of lying about his health care reform plan prohibiting coverage for illegal immigrants. Wilson quickly apologized, and the White House accepted the apology.

Wilson apologized again Thursday morning, though he also says a massive loophole could wind up in the health care bill: no requirement to prove citizenship for health care coverage.

Among three House committees to pass bills for health reform, only one expressly bans federal funding for proving health coverage to illegal immigrants.

"The Congressional Research Service has indicated that indeed the bills that are before Congress would include illegal aliens," Wilson said. "And I think this is wrong."

Indeed, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service study found that the House health care bill does not restrict illegal immigrants from receiving health care coverage.

House Republican Minority Leader John Boehner amplified the complaint that without proof of citizenship, illegal immigrants could be insured.

"There were two opportunities for House Democrats to make clear that illegal immigrants wouldn't be covered by putting in requirements to show citizenships," he said. "Both of those amendments were, in fact, rejected."

In the Senate, Democrats in the so called "Gang of Six," a group of bipartisan senators on the Senate Finance Committee which is the last panel yet to release its bill, began moving quickly to close the loophole that Wilson helped bring greater attention to.

"We absolutely assure that those who are here illegally would not get the benefit of any of these initiatives," Sen. Kent Conrad said.

House Democrats have left open the option to sanction Wilson for violating a House rule that expressly prohibits members from accusing presidents of lying. But they signaled a preference to move ahead without further distraction."

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-09-10   20:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Refinersfire, Rhino369 (#16)

Early last month, the U.S. House Ways and Means Committee defeated an amendment which would have excluded illegal aliens from Obama’s totalitarian health care bill. The Democrat-dominated committee voted 23-18 to defeat the measure introduced by Rep. Dean Heller (R-NV), which would have required the use of the existing Income and Eligibility Verification System and the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements System before care is dispensed.

In other words, there would be no way to verify the citizenship of those seeking care under Obama’s government plan.

CNN reported last month the Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan policy research arm of Congress, found that without a citizenship verification system illegal aliens would receive subsidies. Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, told CNN the report “undermines the claims of the president and others that illegal immigrants would not be covered under the House version of the bill.”

christine  posted on  2009-09-10   20:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#9)

Why did early Americans reject rule by a king again?

your post from another thread...read #9

christine  posted on  2009-09-10   20:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Brian S (#0)

Freeper-thon to save the GOP!!! In 3..2..1..

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-09-10   20:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: christine, Rhino369 (#20)

If I may:

"Early last month, the U.S. House Ways and Means Committee defeated an amendment which would have excluded illegal aliens from Obama’s totalitarian health care bill. The Democrat-dominated committee voted 23-18 to defeat the measure introduced by Rep. Dean Heller (R-NV), which would have required the use of the existing Income and Eligibility Verification System and the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements System before care is dispensed.

In other words, there would be no way to verify the citizenship of those seeking care under Obama’s government plan.

CNN reported last month the Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan policy research arm of Congress, found that without a citizenship verification system illegal aliens would receive subsidies. Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, told CNN the report “undermines the claims of the president and others that illegal immigrants would not be covered under the House version of the bill.”

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-09-10   20:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Brian S (#0)

Everyone ought to be throwing money at Wilson right now, but it's not going to happen of course. He's backed down from democrats, and of course BO.

For a moment there was a glimmer of a backbone in one of our appointed stooges, but that all went out the window.

Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2009-09-10   20:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Cynicom (#24)

non partisan americans have no representation.

christine  posted on  2009-09-10   20:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: christine (#25)

non partisan americans have no representation.

Y U No Use Uppercase?

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-10   20:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: christine (#25)

non partisan americans have no representation.

Indeed.

And 80 million AMERICANS DID NOT VOTE LAST TIME AROUND.

That is why there has to be a choice, a third party at least. We of the 80 million HAVE NO VOICE. No one that articulates our concerns nor our views.

We need a fire eating orator with backbone. Currently it appears that Paul, Wilson, Palin etc etc are not up to the basic standard.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-10   20:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine, TommyTheMadArtist, Cynicom (#25)

non partisan americans have no representation.

Actually those registered "declined to state" in California can get a ballot for either the American Independent party or the Democrat party upon request.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-09-10   20:57:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Clitora (#26)

i'm caps challenged.

i got in the habit of not using caps from years of instant messaging. now i'm known for my usage of lower case on these forums. i changed the c in christine to upper case a few months ago on here and several friends told me that it didn't seem like me. i understood. it was disconcerting to me too. ;)

christine  posted on  2009-09-10   20:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: christine (#29)

You must have some gemini/aquarius in your astro chart.

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-10   21:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Brian S (#0)

Pledged? Or donated?

TooConservative  posted on  2009-09-10   21:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: christine (#21)

Christ, you mean they actually write these things down?!

Anti-racism is code for white genocide.

The call of "equality," is a siren song that can only mean the destruction of all that we cherish as being human. -- Murray Rothbard

It is perfectly legitimate to assume that the races are different in their cognitive abilities and in their willpower and accordingly are unequally suited for the task of setting up societies, and that the better races are characterized in particular by their special ability to strengthen social bonds. -- Ludwig von Mises

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-10   21:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Refinersfire (#23)

which would have required the use of the existing Income and Eligibility Verification System and the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements System before care is dispensed.

This violates our current law in that emergency care is given to anyone regardless of situation.

The amendment the republicans made it illegal to dispense any health care, until proof of citizenship is proven. This would kill people. Citizens and non-citizens alike.

The proposed bill as it stands, still mandates emergency care for all, yet will not pay one dime for the care of illegals.

The plan doesn't cover illegals. To say it does, makes you the liar.

What does happen is doctors must give emergency care to every human being who needs it. If that person isn't covered by the public plan (and illegals cannot be covered), the doctors aren't paid by the government.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-09-11   0:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Rhino369 (#33)

The plan doesn't cover illegals

Who do you think comprise the so-called 41,000,000 people that do not have health-care coverage?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-09-11   0:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: TooConservative (#31)

Pledged? Or donated?

"Certified" check, got that?

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-09-11   0:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Rhino369 (#33)

"The proposed bill as it stands, still mandates emergency care for all, yet will not pay one dime for the care of illegals."

You may wish to re-read what you wrote here..

As for this part..

"What does happen is doctors must give emergency care to every human being who needs it. If that person isn't covered by the public plan (and illegals cannot be covered), the doctors aren't paid by the government."

If there is no enforcement behind Section 246 of this Bill, you can not stop Non-Citizens, who are here by Illegal means, from getting Non-Emergency Care, paid for by this Bill.

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-09-11   1:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Brian S (#35)

"Certified" check, got that?

Well, not exactly. That info isn't in the article.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-09-11   8:36:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Refinersfire (#36)

"What does happen is doctors must give emergency care to every human being who needs it. If that person isn't covered by the public plan (and illegals cannot be covered), the doctors aren't paid by the government."

I hope you're not suggesting that the hospitals would then socialize the cost of the illegals to the rest of us.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-09-11   8:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeroo (#34)

Who do you think comprise the so-called 41,000,000 people that do not have health-care coverage?

Illegals, people too stupid to fill out forms for Medicare and Medicaid, and if we hold to standard Democratic practice, the remainder would consist of dead people and people being counted seven to fifteen times each.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-11   8:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Brian S (#0)

Democrat Rob Miller's campaign war chest just got a whole lot heavier.

Not really. It seems Joe Wilson is raking in the cash too.

A source on Rep. Joe Wilson's campaign says his fundraising has broken $1 million -- and surpassed that of his Democratic rival, Rob Miller -- since his outburst of "You lie!" during President Obama's address to Congress Wednesday.
www.politico.com/blogs/be...illion_passes_Miller.html

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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.

Armadillo  posted on  2009-09-13   2:29:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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