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Title: The 911 Zombie Movement
Source: The Obvious
URL Source: http://www.freedom4um.com
Published: Sep 11, 2009
Author: Mister Clean
Post Date: 2009-09-11 08:58:06 by Mister Clean
Keywords: 911, 911 truth
Views: 1767
Comments: 182

I suggested on this forum a couple years ago that the 911 "truth" movement had peaked.  This peak coincided with the rise of the first "Loose Change" shlockumentary.  After "Loose Change" was debunked and its theatrical version scrapped, it and the "truth" movement lost momentum.

The 911"truth" movement is dead, or should I say, undead.

Today 911 "truth" is a zombie movement; it's not growing, not progressing and not accomplishing anything.  It just staggers around bumping into walls while it slowly decays.

The 911 "truth" movement has produced no new investigation, no indictments of the "real" perpetrators, no convictions and still has not offered proof to support its theories.  After nearly a decade, the "truth" movement has had zero success in advancing its cause.

Not even the great Charlie Sheen can revive this zombie.

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That the dirty masses need a good regulatin'.

Absolutely.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   14:29:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you think that Mister Clean gets paid in shekels?

30 Shekels a day.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-11   14:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The link to Patriots for 9/11 Truth was already posted to Mr. Clean, yet he acts as if it doesn't exist...

Gee, too bad it hasn't amounted to anything eh?

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   14:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you think that Mister Clean gets paid in shekels?

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-11   14:30:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not the least of which is the numbers of people awoken to the reality that they are being manipulated via Psychiatric Psych Warfare techniques.

How many more people do you need to wake up in order to get to the "truth?"

There you go.

I'm a little surprised that people can't figure out what you're doing here.

Or maybe I'm wrong.

It just seems to me that you're saying that "truthers" seem to care more about getting converts than getting at the truth.

If that's what you are saying, I agree with you.

If thats not what you're saying, I might not agree.

To accuse you of being a plant is out of line, imo, because of one topic you posted, and for expressing your opinion. But these things happen. It happened to me. LOL! And I'm sure there are some here that think I am sitting next to your Langley cubicle, typing away...

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-09-11   14:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Now, if the government itself lies to members of Congress in regards to an investigation concerning 9/11, it is obviously the government itself that has something to hide.

The government always has something to hide but not everything they want to hide is important.

Seems to me, the government is trying to hide a lot more about the health care takeover than 911.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   14:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hey, can you bring me another cup of coffee while you're at it???

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-09-11   14:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Which location does Mister Clean work out of?

I say it's a 1099 working out of a private lobbyist firm somewhere.

That explains a lot. Minimum wage help is just so minimum. Of course it could be CENTCOM as well. In any event a Disinfobot is still a Disinfobot.

Do you think that Mister Clean gets paid in shekels?

Or in pieces of silver.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2009-09-11   14:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It just seems to me that you're saying that "truthers" seem to care more about getting converts than getting at the truth.

If that's what you are saying, I agree with you.

If thats not what you're saying, I might not agree.

While I think that is true to an extent, it's not really my point.  My point is that the "truth" movement is going nowhere and accomplishing nothing.  Truthers have been repeating the same crap over and over for 8 years and nothing has changed.  Their message has not and will not resonate with a majority of Americans and they will never be able to claim any success in their agenda.

To accuse you of being a plant is out of line, imo, because of one topic you posted, and for expressing your opinion. But these things happen. It happened to me. LOL! And I'm sure there are some here that think I am sitting next to your Langley cubicle, typing away...

I think its hilarious and demonstrative of the narrow mindedness of the typical Truther.  Anyone who challenges their little belief system must be a government agent or an Israeli.  

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   14:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Their message has not and will not resonate with a majority of Americans and they will never be able to claim any success in their agenda.

True.

But IMO the agenda goes deeper than just convincing anyone about 9/11.

We can disagree about that forever and it's not a problem. THe success of it means nothing, because there are other things we do agree on. This whole "truther" movement is a stumbling block to making this country a better place that isn't ruled by sociopaths.

It's what they did AFTER 9/11 that matters because there is no "conspiracy theory". It happened in broad daylight, nice and "legal".

What I don't like is attaching this to the patriot movement and those that was to see the Constitution restored and lived up to.

It's the minorities that accomplish things. The majority always sleeps.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-09-11   14:52:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

While I think that is true to an extent, it's not really my point. My point is that the "truth" movement is going nowhere and accomplishing nothing. Truthers have been repeating the same crap over and over for 8 years and nothing has changed. Their message has not and will not resonate with a majority of Americans and they will never be able to claim any success in their agenda.

The government fairy tale is going nowhere.

The government and government shills have been repeating the same crap over and over for 8 years and nothing has changed. The official story has been proven to be a HUGE lie. The government has not been able to wiggle out of their exposed lies.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-09-11   14:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Gee, too bad it hasn't amounted to anything eh?

With the news media mute on the topic, or actively ridiculing or ignoring anyone of importance who speaks out concerning 9/11, and active disinformation and propaganda campaigns being utilized against anyone who sees through the BS, along with active disinfo campaigns being employed across any Internet forum that people actually read, it's obvious that it's extraordinarily difficult for something to be done in terms of a new investigation and seeking justice against those actually involved not just in the events of 9/11, but those who have ordered and perpetrated the ongoing coverup.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-09-11   14:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We can disagree about that forever and it's not a problem. THe success of it means nothing, because there are other things we do agree on. This whole "truther" movement is a stumbling block to making this country a better place that isn't ruled by sociopaths.

I think the "truth" movement is not much of a stumbling block at all because nobody takes them seriously. Alex Jones is the most visible Truther and he's a complete fool.

I think the real stumbling block are the people (particularly liberals) who look to government to solve problems - they ensure that the worst type of people get elected.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

With the news media mute on the topic, or actively ridiculing or ignoring anyone of importance who speaks out concerning 9/11, and active disinformation and propaganda campaigns being utilized against anyone who sees through the BS, along with active disinfo campaigns being employed across any Internet forum that people actually read, it's obvious that it's extraordinarily difficult for something to be done in terms of a new investigation and seeking justice against those actually involved not just in the events of 9/11, but those who have ordered and perpetrated the ongoing coverup.

Excuse making is so unattractive.

Don't you think the number of morons that populate the "truth" movement have proven detrimental to it?

Really, has Alex Jones been of any help to you?

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think the real stumbling block are the people (particularly liberals) who look to government to solve problems - they ensure that the worst type of people get elected.

Yeah, bush/cheney did good things when 911 was happening.

Goodness, you are a good shill. It is easy to see though. You and PSUSA agree, so you both seem to be shilling for someone.

Are you a disgruntal truther switching sides too?

Seems like it.

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-11   15:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think the "truth" movement is not much of a stumbling block at all because nobody takes them seriously. Alex Jones is the most visible Truther and he's a complete fool.

That's why I wrote that I didn't like to link this to the patriot movement. It's the patriots that will change things, not truthers. Being linked to the truthers makes the patriots look like fools to the people that are needed as allies. Thank you ALex Jones, you worthless fucking zionist rat bastard.

At least we got to see him shoot himself in the foot this week.

I include myself in the "truther" label too. It's just not that important to me. It's what happened shortly afterward that pisses me off to no end.

I think the real stumbling block are the people (particularly liberals) who look to government to solve problems - they ensure that the worst type of people get elected.

I think that's part of it.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-09-11   15:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah, bush/cheney did good things when 911 was happening.

I doubt any other president and vice president would have done anything differently.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Aren't you interested yourself in why the last building to fall was barely mentioned and certainly not investigated. No curiosity on your part, if only to try to prevent this mishap from occurring in other buildings?

No.

If you're gonna sin, sin big. ;-)

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Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-11   15:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I doubt any other president and vice president would have done anything differently.

Yup. No one could have pulled off 911 like those two could have. I am starting to think you aren't a shill. Just kinda dumb.

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-11   15:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Heat rises, does it not? Think about it carefully before you answer!

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phantom patriot  posted on  2009-09-11   15:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's the patriots that will change things, not truthers.

If you think America is going to get back to Constitutional basics I suggest you rethink that.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yup. No one could have pulled off 911 like those two could have.

Why did they do 911?

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:14:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Either that or we start over, all over again. But if that happens, it'll be similar to the first one. Just maybe a little more strongly worded. I'd like to see a MANDATORY immediate death penalty for treason, with free beer afterward.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-09-11   15:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So our drift into further socialism will not meet with resistance when the economic House of Cards collapses? Perhaps in your world that's realistic, but not mine.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-11   15:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Either that or we start over, all over again.

I've come to the conclusion that the USA will be a third world nation in a few years.

I wouldn't worry so much about the country as a whole but worry more about your own status within it.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Resistance BUMP!

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-09-11   15:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So our drift into further socialism will not meet with resistance when the economic House of Cards collapses?

Sure there will be resistance but there will not be a return to Constitutional basics here. The "empire" will fall but domestically it will remain largely intact.

Look, the US is full of parasites who think the government should provide them with everything. They're not going away. They vote.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I wouldn't worry so much about the country as a whole but worry more about your own status within it.

Second that.

Anti-racism is code for white genocide.

The call of "equality," is a siren song that can only mean the destruction of all that we cherish as being human. -- Murray Rothbard

It is perfectly legitimate to assume that the races are different in their cognitive abilities and in their willpower and accordingly are unequally suited for the task of setting up societies, and that the better races are characterized in particular by their special ability to strengthen social bonds. -- Ludwig von Mises

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-11   15:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I wouldn't worry so much about the country as a whole but worry more about your own status within it.

That comment would indicate that you are not a PATRIOT, but one the PATRIOTS might have to deal with.

Patriots are not in this for themselves! Your kind of thinking is what got us here in the first place.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-09-11   15:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Excuse making is so unattractive.

What do you suggest, knocking on the front door of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and begging the resident to help uncover the truth?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-09-11   15:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That comment would indicate that you are not a PATRIOT

Well I do love myself more than America.

I'm grateful I am free to do that.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If the organism that gives the parasites 'things' falters and stalls, they will become enraged and in the end there will be far fewer of them.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-11   15:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What do you suggest, knocking on the front door of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and begging the resident to help uncover the truth?

The 911 "truth" movement is hopeless. The number of kooks in its ranks will make sure it's never taken seriously.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well I do love myself more than America.

Obviously! You are showing your age.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-09-11   15:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I wouldn't worry so much about the country as a whole but worry more about your own status within it.

That comment would indicate that you are not a PATRIOT, but one the PATRIOTS might have to deal with.

Like the men that pushed the women and children aside to get in the lifeboats on the Titanic.

Patriots are not in this for themselves!

Exactly.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-11   15:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The number of kooks in its ranks will make sure it's never taken seriously.

That has not stopped the government!

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-09-11   15:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Look, the US is full of parasites who think the government should provide them with everything. They're not going away. They vote. They'll die.

Fixed. Parasites depend on the host. The host will be dead.

They will be lost without Uncle Sugar. No more welfare. No more Mickey D's, No more Jack-in-the-crack. No more Popeyes. And, this will hurt me, no more White Castles.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-09-11   15:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They will be lost without Uncle Sugar. No more welfare. No more Mickey D's, No more Jack-in-the-crack. No more Popeyes. And, this will hurt me, no more White Castles.

That's about how it will play out. If they need gov, and gov can't give they will perish.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-09-11   15:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The number of kooks in its ranks will make sure it's never taken seriously.

I know of another person who used the word "kook" in order to ridicule those involved in seeking truth. You and BAC kissing cousins or something?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-09-11   15:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

BTW, the REAL kooks are those who believe the Laws of Physics changed on the morning of 9/11/2001, where physically impossible things became not only possible, but actually occured.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-09-11   15:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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