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Title: The 911 Zombie Movement
Source: The Obvious
URL Source: http://www.freedom4um.com
Published: Sep 11, 2009
Author: Mister Clean
Post Date: 2009-09-11 08:58:06 by Mister Clean
Keywords: 911, 911 truth
Views: 8253
Comments: 182

I suggested on this forum a couple years ago that the 911 "truth" movement had peaked.  This peak coincided with the rise of the first "Loose Change" shlockumentary.  After "Loose Change" was debunked and its theatrical version scrapped, it and the "truth" movement lost momentum.

The 911"truth" movement is dead, or should I say, undead.

Today 911 "truth" is a zombie movement; it's not growing, not progressing and not accomplishing anything.  It just staggers around bumping into walls while it slowly decays.

The 911 "truth" movement has produced no new investigation, no indictments of the "real" perpetrators, no convictions and still has not offered proof to support its theories.  After nearly a decade, the "truth" movement has had zero success in advancing its cause.

Not even the great Charlie Sheen can revive this zombie.

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#135. To: Mister Clean (#126)

Gee, too bad it hasn't amounted to anything eh?

With the news media mute on the topic, or actively ridiculing or ignoring anyone of importance who speaks out concerning 9/11, and active disinformation and propaganda campaigns being utilized against anyone who sees through the BS, along with active disinfo campaigns being employed across any Internet forum that people actually read, it's obvious that it's extraordinarily difficult for something to be done in terms of a new investigation and seeking justice against those actually involved not just in the events of 9/11, but those who have ordered and perpetrated the ongoing coverup.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-09-11   14:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: PSUSA (#133)

We can disagree about that forever and it's not a problem. THe success of it means nothing, because there are other things we do agree on. This whole "truther" movement is a stumbling block to making this country a better place that isn't ruled by sociopaths.

I think the "truth" movement is not much of a stumbling block at all because nobody takes them seriously. Alex Jones is the most visible Truther and he's a complete fool.

I think the real stumbling block are the people (particularly liberals) who look to government to solve problems - they ensure that the worst type of people get elected.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: FormerLurker (#135)

With the news media mute on the topic, or actively ridiculing or ignoring anyone of importance who speaks out concerning 9/11, and active disinformation and propaganda campaigns being utilized against anyone who sees through the BS, along with active disinfo campaigns being employed across any Internet forum that people actually read, it's obvious that it's extraordinarily difficult for something to be done in terms of a new investigation and seeking justice against those actually involved not just in the events of 9/11, but those who have ordered and perpetrated the ongoing coverup.

Excuse making is so unattractive.

Don't you think the number of morons that populate the "truth" movement have proven detrimental to it?

Really, has Alex Jones been of any help to you?

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Mister Clean (#136)

I think the real stumbling block are the people (particularly liberals) who look to government to solve problems - they ensure that the worst type of people get elected.

Yeah, bush/cheney did good things when 911 was happening.

Goodness, you are a good shill. It is easy to see though. You and PSUSA agree, so you both seem to be shilling for someone.

Are you a disgruntal truther switching sides too?

Seems like it.

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-11   15:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Mister Clean (#136)

I think the "truth" movement is not much of a stumbling block at all because nobody takes them seriously. Alex Jones is the most visible Truther and he's a complete fool.

That's why I wrote that I didn't like to link this to the patriot movement. It's the patriots that will change things, not truthers. Being linked to the truthers makes the patriots look like fools to the people that are needed as allies. Thank you ALex Jones, you worthless fucking zionist rat bastard.

At least we got to see him shoot himself in the foot this week.

I include myself in the "truther" label too. It's just not that important to me. It's what happened shortly afterward that pisses me off to no end.

I think the real stumbling block are the people (particularly liberals) who look to government to solve problems - they ensure that the worst type of people get elected.

I think that's part of it.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-09-11   15:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Clitora (#138)

Yeah, bush/cheney did good things when 911 was happening.

I doubt any other president and vice president would have done anything differently.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Mister Clean (#51)

Aren't you interested yourself in why the last building to fall was barely mentioned and certainly not investigated. No curiosity on your part, if only to try to prevent this mishap from occurring in other buildings?

No.

If you're gonna sin, sin big. ;-)

Anti-racism is code for white genocide.

The call of "equality," is a siren song that can only mean the destruction of all that we cherish as being human. -- Murray Rothbard

It is perfectly legitimate to assume that the races are different in their cognitive abilities and in their willpower and accordingly are unequally suited for the task of setting up societies, and that the better races are characterized in particular by their special ability to strengthen social bonds. -- Ludwig von Mises

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-11   15:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Mister Clean (#140)

I doubt any other president and vice president would have done anything differently.

Yup. No one could have pulled off 911 like those two could have. I am starting to think you aren't a shill. Just kinda dumb.

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-11   15:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Mister Clean (#140)

Heat rises, does it not? Think about it carefully before you answer!

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-09-11   15:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: PSUSA (#139)

It's the patriots that will change things, not truthers.

If you think America is going to get back to Constitutional basics I suggest you rethink that.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Clitora (#142)

Yup. No one could have pulled off 911 like those two could have.

Why did they do 911?

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:14:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Mister Clean (#144)

Either that or we start over, all over again. But if that happens, it'll be similar to the first one. Just maybe a little more strongly worded. I'd like to see a MANDATORY immediate death penalty for treason, with free beer afterward.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-09-11   15:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Mister Clean (#144)

So our drift into further socialism will not meet with resistance when the economic House of Cards collapses? Perhaps in your world that's realistic, but not mine.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-11   15:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: PSUSA (#146)

Either that or we start over, all over again.

I've come to the conclusion that the USA will be a third world nation in a few years.

I wouldn't worry so much about the country as a whole but worry more about your own status within it.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Jethro Tull (#147)

Resistance BUMP!

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-09-11   15:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Jethro Tull (#147)

So our drift into further socialism will not meet with resistance when the economic House of Cards collapses?

Sure there will be resistance but there will not be a return to Constitutional basics here. The "empire" will fall but domestically it will remain largely intact.

Look, the US is full of parasites who think the government should provide them with everything. They're not going away. They vote.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Mister Clean (#148)

I wouldn't worry so much about the country as a whole but worry more about your own status within it.

Second that.

Anti-racism is code for white genocide.

The call of "equality," is a siren song that can only mean the destruction of all that we cherish as being human. -- Murray Rothbard

It is perfectly legitimate to assume that the races are different in their cognitive abilities and in their willpower and accordingly are unequally suited for the task of setting up societies, and that the better races are characterized in particular by their special ability to strengthen social bonds. -- Ludwig von Mises

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-11   15:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Mister Clean (#148) (Edited)

I wouldn't worry so much about the country as a whole but worry more about your own status within it.

That comment would indicate that you are not a PATRIOT, but one the PATRIOTS might have to deal with.

Patriots are not in this for themselves! Your kind of thinking is what got us here in the first place.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-09-11   15:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Mister Clean (#137)

Excuse making is so unattractive.

What do you suggest, knocking on the front door of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and begging the resident to help uncover the truth?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-09-11   15:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: phantom patriot (#152)

That comment would indicate that you are not a PATRIOT

Well I do love myself more than America.

I'm grateful I am free to do that.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Mister Clean (#150)

If the organism that gives the parasites 'things' falters and stalls, they will become enraged and in the end there will be far fewer of them.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-11   15:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: FormerLurker (#153)

What do you suggest, knocking on the front door of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and begging the resident to help uncover the truth?

The 911 "truth" movement is hopeless. The number of kooks in its ranks will make sure it's never taken seriously.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   15:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Mister Clean (#154)

Well I do love myself more than America.

Obviously! You are showing your age.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-09-11   15:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: phantom patriot, Mister Clean, all (#152)

I wouldn't worry so much about the country as a whole but worry more about your own status within it.

That comment would indicate that you are not a PATRIOT, but one the PATRIOTS might have to deal with.

Like the men that pushed the women and children aside to get in the lifeboats on the Titanic.

Patriots are not in this for themselves!

Exactly.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-11   15:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: Mister Clean (#156)

The number of kooks in its ranks will make sure it's never taken seriously.

That has not stopped the government!

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-09-11   15:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Mister Clean (#150) (Edited)

Look, the US is full of parasites who think the government should provide them with everything. They're not going away. They vote. They'll die.

Fixed. Parasites depend on the host. The host will be dead.

They will be lost without Uncle Sugar. No more welfare. No more Mickey D's, No more Jack-in-the-crack. No more Popeyes. And, this will hurt me, no more White Castles.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-09-11   15:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: PSUSA (#160)

They will be lost without Uncle Sugar. No more welfare. No more Mickey D's, No more Jack-in-the-crack. No more Popeyes. And, this will hurt me, no more White Castles.

That's about how it will play out. If they need gov, and gov can't give they will perish.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-09-11   15:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Mister Clean (#156)

The number of kooks in its ranks will make sure it's never taken seriously.

I know of another person who used the word "kook" in order to ridicule those involved in seeking truth. You and BAC kissing cousins or something?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-09-11   15:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Mister Clean (#156)

BTW, the REAL kooks are those who believe the Laws of Physics changed on the morning of 9/11/2001, where physically impossible things became not only possible, but actually occured.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-09-11   15:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Mister Clean (#156)

The 911 "truth" movement is hopeless. The number of kooks in its ranks will make sure it's never taken seriously.

The 911 "government fairy tale" is hopeless. The number of stupid and arrogant shills in it's ranks will make sure it is never taken seriously.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-09-11   15:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: wudidiz (#158)

Like the men that pushed the women and children aside to get in the lifeboats on the Titanic.

I can understand the Titanic/America analogy but it's not accurate.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   17:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: PSUSA (#160)

They will be lost without Uncle Sugar. No more welfare. No more Mickey D's, No more Jack-in-the-crack. No more Popeyes. And, this will hurt me, no more White Castles.

At home, the US government isn't going anywhere.

The clever people with means will shield their wealth as much as possible. The rest of the productive class will get squeezed more.

Canada will be the only first world nation in this hemisphere one day.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-11   17:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Mister Clean (#145)

Why did they do 911?

Power.Money. Because they were told to.

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-11   23:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Clitora (#167)

Power.Money. Because they were told to.

Bush and Cheney already had power and money before 911 so your theory makes no sense.

Now, who told them to do it?

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-12   8:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Mister Clean (#168)

Now, who told them to do it?

You really don't know? Why, JEWS!!!!! of course. They rule the world!!!!

There's no place better thanTurtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-09-12   8:39:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Turtle (#169)

You really don't know? Why, JEWS!!!!! of course. They rule the world!!!!

Oh my gosh.

I had no idea.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-12   9:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Mister Clean (#170)

I had no idea.

You got to get your mind right, get into the conspiracist mindset: everything is someone else's fault, and fantasies about blood-drinking shape-shifting reptilian aliens, all-powerful evil JEWS!!! and thousands of traitors pulling off four-remote-controlled planes and explosives in the WTC are a lot more fun and exciting and dramatic than plain ol' boring reality.

There's no place better thanTurtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-09-12   9:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Turtle (#171) (Edited)

Disgraceful.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-12   10:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Mister Clean (#168)

Bush and Cheney already had power and money before 911 so your theory makes no sense.

Bush was in his first term and cheney was head of a company that does contracting for wars and such.

Bush's father is also in the charyle group, a war profiteerig company.

It is not my fault you are ignorant of reality.

The reality is, you are kinda stupid since you have no idea what you are talking about. No wonder you and turdle have so much in common.

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-12   11:07:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Clitora (#173)

The reality is, you are kinda stupid since you have no idea what you are talking about.

Who told Bush and Cheney to carry out 911?

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-12   11:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Mister Clean (#174)

Who told Bush and Cheney to carry out 911?

Who controls the money of this country?

The FED owners of course. Rockefella admitted he knew about 911 beforehand.

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-12   11:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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