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Title: Nation's Bottomfeeders Gather In D.C. For Teabagger Rallies
Source: AlaskaReport.com
URL Source: [None]
Published: Sep 13, 2009
Author: AlaskaReport.com
Post Date: 2009-09-13 01:52:20 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 3694
Comments: 165

Teabaggers armed with cardboard signs displayed their racism, ignorance, and bigotry

"Teabaggers" from around the nation gathered in Washington D.C. Saturday to protest what they believe is a bigger government and health care reform. Uneducated Americans

From the AP:

Tens of thousands of people marched to the U.S. Capitol on Saturday, carrying signs with slogans such as "Obamacare makes me sick" as they protested the president's health care plan and what they say is out-of-control spending.

The line of protesters spread across Pennsylvania Avenue for blocks, all the way to the capitol, according to the D.C. Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency. People were chanting "enough, enough" and "We the People." Others yelled "You lie, you lie!" and "Pelosi has to go," referring to California congresswoman Nancy Pelosi.

From CNN:

In Battle Creek, Michigan, a woman in her 60s says, "I really don't want to be a guinea pig for the experiment they have with the population control." In Canton, Ohio, a woman argues with an Obama supporter: "He's going after our kids to try to indoctrinate them into a national defense army."

The Tea Party Express tour has been free of violence, but occasional outbursts of vitriolic hatred toward the president combined with some menacing outward appearances often overshadow the more moderate tea partyers.

In Louisville, Kentucky, two young men in camouflage fatigues roamed the crowd trying to recruit new members for their militia called the Ohio Valley Freedom Fighters. They bear signs reading "AK-47s: today's pitchfork" and "Quit worrying. Start your militia training today."

In Jackson, Michigan, a young man didn't need a sign. He was carrying the real thing: A loaded AK-47 assault rifle and two loaded handguns.

"I don't want a revolution. I don't want a civil war," he said. "But it is a possibility. It's there as an option, as a last resort."

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

The Tea Party Express tour has been free of violence, but occasional outbursts of vitriolic hatred toward the president combined with some menacing outward appearances often overshadow the more moderate tea partyers.

The left, for years has Tarred and Feathered those who believe in the American Way. And now that they are trying to tear down America, so they can rebuild it in their mind set, they are fearful of a reaction... That is so rich!... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-09-13   3:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Refinersfire, christine, F16Fighter, packrat1145, Jethro Tull, X-15, SonOfLiberty, Prefrontal Vortex, Original_Intent, TommyTheMadArtist, abraxas, KinkoTheKlown, Flintloc (#1)

The left, for years has Tarred and Feathered those who believe in the American Way. And now that they are trying to tear down America, so they can rebuild it in their mind set, they are fearful of a reaction... That is so rich!... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Yes.

The Left, CNN, NYSlimes, ABC, NBC (MSNBC), CBS, etc., etc., etc. can go take a leap.

And the pencil-necked Kenyan Obama and his commie/totalitarian cohorts can leave any time they wish. They are not wanted in a decent country.

****

p.s. Now that Commiebama has dumped his Van (Jones) ........ is Van eligible for 'Cash for Clunkers'?

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-09-13   3:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

Tens of thousands of people marched to the U.S. Capitol on Saturday, carrying signs with slogans such as "Obamacare makes me sick" as they protested the president's health care plan and what they say is out-of-control spending.

The more accurate count is 2 Million people.

Trying to limit the number of protestors is media fraud. Limiting the reasons behind the protests to Obama or Obamacare is media slight of hand. There are so many reasons that these people have spent the money, the time, and the effort to either go to D.C. or to a local protest site, that if the media were to elaborate a violent revolution could ignite. This 9-12 rally in DC was non- partisan and not connected with the so-called "Conservatives" meeting being held at the same time by assholes like Dick Armey and Mitt Romney, two globalist toadies for the NWO, which meeting consisted of (claimed) mere "thousands", NOT 2 MILLION.

These 2 million protestors represent a far larger number that for reasons unknown couldn't travel to D.C. and most are fearful for their children's future because the fools, faggots, fuck-heads and fascists running D.C. appear to be little concerned about them or their future.

The fact of the matter is there are so many reasons for the protests that should an honest media expose them all a riot would or should ignite. 9-11 was never properly investigated. From the beginning when Bush tried to appoint Heinz Kissinger and throughout the "OMISSION" Commission's tenure, that was described by Max Clelland as a "NATIONAL SCANDAL" when he resigned from it, a cover-up was in process and truth was the furthest thing from the Commission's objective. [Let's never forget JFK's murder and cover-up ... do ya think Lee Harvey Patsy covered it up ????? Well this is where it started in our lifetimes ... and continues today.]

It's not just 9-11 either. Pensions have been stolen, Corporations have been stolen, Bankers have been enriched after raping the public trust, taxpayers have unwittingly been named co-signers and co-BANKRUPTS for the bankers and the perverts in D.C., preemptive wars have killed our children, terror alerts and HOMO-LAND SECURITY DIRECTIVES have named normal God-fearing Americans as terrorists, our phones and computers are tapped, military forces have been put into place for strategic purposes because they know resistance levels will increase, and some of the people currently influencing the Obama Administration have written about and believe in heinous population control measures that border on SATANIC.

Some of the angst that has led people to march on DC began with JFK, some at Ruby Ridge, some at WACO, more anger has been generated by and through recent legislation related to NAFTA, GATT, and the WTO, some by rulings of the Supreme Court re: KELO and the various Patriot Act(s).

Many are sick and tired of the disproportionate number of Jews wielding immense official power (BY APPOINTMENT) from the FEDERAL RESERVE where they manufacture money out of thin air and use it to buy everything of import, to the Supreme Court where they violate the legislative branch from the bench.

Many see the tell-tale signs of communism in its worst form. Gutter communism straight from the ghettos of Chicago, Baltimore, Washington, Detroit, Cleveland, Dallas, L.A., etc., brought about through government programs managed by disgruntled elitist socialists with an agenda and gangbanger thugs like ACORN.

Uncle Sambo with the help of the CIA/MOSSAD/JEW controlled media, paid for BY YOUR FUCKING TAX DOLLARS is trying to incite a race war. The same self-absorbed elites that have caused the inner-city grief amongst the minorities are now attempting to turn these gangbangers on others similarly situated that are also being oppressed. Divide and conquer is their M.O. and the ends justify the means is their strategy.

Many of us quit drinking the Kool-Aid a long time ago. Many of us have been trying to warn others for decades. Many of our brothers and sisters have been subjected to persecution and prosecution for the sake of retaining our personal integrity and that of the country and people we love and have sworn an allegiance to.

I don't know why Brian S. would post this bullshit article, unless he were attempting to belittle the efforts of those 2 MILLION AMERICANS marching on D.C. to peacefully demonstrate their displeasure with being squashed under the oppressive JACK-BOOT of fascism.

Or Maybe Brian S wanted to piss me off enough to speak my mind about the way Americans have turned into materialistic self-centered cowards without enough backbone to tell these communist cocksukers in Washington D.C. to get the fuck out of our lives, stop killing our kids, stop killing other people's kids in other nations or we're going to kill you and your fucking spoiled rotten kids !

To lessen the sacrifices made by those able to trudge through airports, ride busses, drive across country, hitch-hike and or walk to DC that were trying to bring about a peaceful change in government is a disservice to our fellow Americans and the country.

We don't need a war on terrorism unless we start it in D.C. because that, my fellow countrymen, is the cave that conceals true terrorists !

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-13   6:22:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/...-party-demonstration.html

Up to two million march to US Capitol to protest against Obama's spending in 'tea-party' demonstration.

By Mail Foreign Service

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-13   7:19:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

Why do tou waste your time posting such offfensive garbage?

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2009-09-13   7:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

www.breitbart.tv/go-home-...orter-during-live- report/

www.breitbart.tv/go-home-...cnn-reporter-during-live- report/

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-13   7:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brian S (#0)

I think it was around 30 million or so worldwide who protested Chimp I's preemptive war on Iraq. Yeah, that really worked. Chimpy backed off and said, "Whoa! The people aren't in favor of this. Never mind."

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-09-13   8:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Sam Houston (#7)

Sam, if you'll recall the Declaration of Independence was written to express the numerous complaints of oppression that were ignored. When it became apparent that the "KING" wasn't interested in the peaceful approach, a war ensued. We're moving in the same direction.

And, your continuous support for this communist asshat in the White House is beneath your intellect.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-13   8:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222 (#8)

The people on this site, generally speaking, believe those who do not wish Obama dead SUPPORT him. This is one reason I am gradually weaning myself from the site.

The inability to label his ideology correctly is also embarrassing. He is more of a fascist than a communist. Wall Streeters aren't communists. They're the ones who put him in office.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-09-13   8:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Sam Houston (#9)

Wall Streeters aren't communists. They're the ones who put him in office.

Really, didn't Wall Street finance Lenin and Trotsky (Ulyinov and Braunstein) ... they were communists !

My remarks aren't intended to support party politics, rather to end them. The 2 Party paradigm is a bad habit that appears hard to break. Bush did it - Obama did it ... it's all bullshit and we're buying it by the boatload as a society.

ENUF

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-13   8:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Brian S (#0)

Teabaggers armed with cardboard signs displayed their racism, ignorance, and bigotry

When trotskyite mice squeak like this, it means that someone has just put a scare into them.

They're shitting their tiny little britches.

SALUS POPULI SUPREMA LEX

randge  posted on  2009-09-13   8:52:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Brian S (#0)

Nation's Bottomfeeders Gather In D.C. For Teabagger Rallies

Bottom feeders? I didn't know ACORN was sponsoring this event.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-09-13   9:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: noone222 (#10)

My question about the rally ....where were these people this time last year?....I'm left to conclude it was nothing more than a collection of delusional "sunshine patriots"....no wonder Ron Paul was not there.

robnoel  posted on  2009-09-13   9:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: noone222 (#3)

I don't know why Brian S. would post this bullshit article, unless he were attempting to belittle the efforts of those 2 MILLION AMERICANS marching on D.C. to peacefully demonstrate their displeasure with being squashed under the oppressive JACK-BOOT of fascism.

Bingo. BS is an Obama supporter and voter and has yet to tell us what O has done to date that is is pro-America. His tactic, instead, is to post material that supports both the current economic and social state that is being implemented. That this many people gathered against the Kenyan in DC is the beginning of a movement BS & company detest.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   9:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Sam Houston, Scam Houston (#9)

I am gradually weaning myself from the site.

Scam

Your left of center, statist views will not be missed.

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole a bike and asked him to forgive me.

Flintlock  posted on  2009-09-13   9:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: noone222, Sam Houston (#8)

And, your continuous support for this communist asshat in the White House is beneath your intellect.

No it is'nt.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-13   9:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robnoel (#13)

where were these people this time last year?....

Waiting at home for their marching orders from one wing of the National political bird? God almighty Robby, events like this are the result of mounting frustration and their timetable isn't predictable. When did the bold white South Africans gather in the millions to take back their nation from communism?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   9:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#17)

When did the bold white South Africans gather in the millions to take back their nation from communism?

I recall they talked a lot.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-13   9:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Sam Houston (#9)

The people on this site, generally speaking, believe those who do not wish Obama dead SUPPORT him. This is one reason I am gradually weaning myself from the site.

Google The Nest or DU. We've seen this show already.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   9:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#18)

I recall they talked a lot.

Yep, so I suppose that's why such gatherings are alien to them.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   9:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: noone222, All (#8)

Sam, if you'll recall the Declaration of Independence was written to express the numerous complaints of oppression that were ignored. When it became apparent that the "KING" wasn't interested in the peaceful approach, a war ensued. We're moving in the same direction.

After seeing the size of the crowd of demonstrators, the king left town. I have no doubt that TPTB were busy last night laying plans for the next catastrophic event against the sheople to whip us into line again.

I too believe we cannot change them and their evil ways by these demonstrations or at the ballot box. Their control over the media is the key reason they have gained control and have no fear of us at the ballot box. So many sheople believe all the tripe they see,hear, and read. Taking back the media is essential. How do we do that?

If there is another George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Ben Franklin out there, it is time. How about Jim Traficant?

Did anyone ask yesterday for the criminal politicians to leave DC peacefully for good?

LACUMO  posted on  2009-09-13   9:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Sam Houston, jethro tull, All (#9)

The inability to label his ideology correctly is also embarrassing. He is more of a fascist than a communist. Wall Streeters aren't communists. They're the ones who put him in office.

Sam...

You have never posted anything so inherently ignorant of history as this.

You are embarrassing yourself for your lack of historical knowledge.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-13   9:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: LACUMO, bump to 21 (#21)

After seeing the size of the crowd of demonstrators, the king left town. I have no doubt that TPTB were busy last night laying plans for the next catastrophic event against the sheople to whip us into line again.

Right you are.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   9:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#17)

Let's review, your baseless argument about SA not with standing, who last year was warning about the very things that are now taking place and yet this same crowd was calling a "kook" who was the first person to host a "tea party" and who was missing yesterday?

robnoel  posted on  2009-09-13   9:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robnoel (#24)

The fact that you are here, and not in South Africa, makes my point factual rather than baseless.

As for the remainder of your comment, I honestly don't do riddles well, so I have no clue what you're asking.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   9:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: noone222 (#10)

In this country, Wall Street doesn't finance communists. Communism, by its very nature, does not allow a market economy.

It is all about the power of the label. That's why people mislabel Obama. They perceive, probably accurately, that the 50 years of Cold War indoctrination rendered people more likely to react in Pavlovian fashion to that label than to the more accurate "fascist" label. Only the World War II generation was indoctrinated against fascists.

I haven't studied it that closely, but I would imagine the Bolsheviks obtained financing from, specifically, the Jews on Wall Street because of the perceived anti-Semitism of Tsarist Russia. I believe the so-called "forged" Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion called for/predicted such a revolution.

Most of you, except for Flintlock, who is a loyal Pubbie, for sure, and maybe even a paid poster a la Badeye (he may even BE Badeye except for the fact he never "GRINS") have written that you see no difference in the two parties and yet there was not NEARLY the venom against Cheney-Bush as I've seen on here against Obama.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-09-13   9:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Sam Houston (#26)

yet there was not NEARLY the venom against Cheney-Bush as I've seen on here against Obama.

You got that bass ackwards. Where were you when we cheered Chavez for calling Bush Diablo? Or when we all demanded he be dragged to the Hague for war crimes? I could go on and on, but it's a lost cause. It's inbetweeners like you and BS who fail to see the communists (Van Jones) who surround Him, *EVEN* when they identify themselves as such. If you're going to wean yourself from here, be quick about it. You embarrass the great name you post by.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   9:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull, Sam Houston, All (#27)

You embarrass the great name you post by.

Indeed he does.

Perhaps at his new site he will use the nic of...Alger Hiss...

Very fitting.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-13   10:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

Stop avoiding the question...why was Ron Paul not there?

robnoel  posted on  2009-09-13   10:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Sam Houston (#9)

The people on this site, generally speaking, believe those who do not wish Obama dead SUPPORT him.

i think you've made it pretty clear that you support obama at least to the extent that he is a democrat and not one of your hated republicans. most of the people on this site are onto the two party fraud and have an equal disdain for the elititst traitorous politicians on both sides...and, yeah, some wish for the demise of them. i don't think you had any issue with that when it was bush/cheney in power and some of us expressed that wish, did you? there is nothing wrong with wishing for the demise of evil.

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   10:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Sam Houston (#26)

have written that you see no difference in the two parties and yet there was not NEARLY the venom against Cheney-Bush as I've seen on here against Obama.

not true. your perception because you're viewing us through your now partisan eyes.

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   10:11:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#28)

Sam

Neville Chamberlain's need not apply here. The lines are clearly drawn and yesterday, in DC, that point was driven home. I knew that assembly would expose some lingers, and it has.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   10:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: robnoel (#29)

only Ron Paul could answer your question. we'd like to know the answer to that too.

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   10:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

Just for that, I'll stay around for a few more years. My great namesake was a lifelong, staunch Democrat, BTW. So if I seem to lean that way, maybe there's a reason. He was also against Texas joining the Confederate States of America, a principled stand which ended his political career.

The sad thing about this site is that it has come to resemble Free Republic, a site from which I was banned in February 2002 for predicting Bush would invade Iraq. I was called a "conspiracy kook" by Jim Robinson in his private message banning me.

I have also been banned from Democratic Underground for implying that the Mossad was behind the London subway attack of 7-7-2005.

Unfortunately for you, the fair lady who operates this site ACTUALLY BELIEVES in free speech and practices it.

If I were to come up with a "conspiracy theory" about Obama, it would be that he was put in office to make the posters on Freedom4um.com go absolutely nuts. It worked like a charm.

I saw a line yesterday in a comment to an article about Ray McGovern. The U.S. president is "at best a frontman and at worst, a hostage."

You're not ever going to change that. But don't ever forget it. It may be the key to maintaining or regaining your mental health.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-09-13   10:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#33)

only Ron Paul could answer your question. we'd like to know the answer to that too.

We all know the answer.

Trotski memo, remember????

Paul on his knees vowed undying faith to his beloved republican party.

He was the systems third party stalking horse and led millions down the primrose path.

Note his son is running and a pub, not an independent?????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-13   10:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#28)

Alger Hiss...

Alger Hiss was INNOCENT, darn you! Whittaker Chambers was lying! Lying, I tell you, lying!!!!

I used to have a copy of "Witness," but I think some kid stole it, along with my plastic model of a P-38 Lightning.

There's no place better thanTurtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-09-13   10:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Sam Houston (#34)

Just for that, I'll stay around for a few more years. My great namesake was a lifelong, staunch Democrat, BTW. So if I seem to lean that way, maybe there's a reason.

If you lean D it means you are still trapped in the R v D squabble and are unworthy of your handle. Sam Houston was an American first, and by your own admission, you aren't. I suggest you continue your wean from here. You have all the political acumen of a rock.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   10:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: LACUMO (#21)

If there is another George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Ben Franklin out there, it is time. How about Jim Traficant?

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=272793

Same Old Jimbo (Traficant)

****

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=272443 (post # 4)

Traficant to be freed from federal prison today

****

As you may see now, moron (from your ill-advised remarks on the Serena thread) ........ I like the good guys (such as Jim).

You on the other hand ..... are a presumptuous *sshole!

Jim is a friend of mine .... and you are a complete *sshole! Save your ignorant comments for your family members. They are most likely used to them!

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-09-13   10:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: noone222, Brian S (#3)

outstanding, Doug. what have you to say to this, Brian?

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   10:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Turtle (#36)

Alger Hiss was INNOCENT, darn you! Whittaker Chambers was lying! Lying, I tell you, lying!!!!

Amb. Bullitt in 1939 was told by the French that there were two communist spies in the State Dept., named Donald and Alger Hiss. Bullitt passed it verbally to Roosevelt who ignored it and did nothing.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-13   10:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine (#31)

I do not even vote, christine. I am only wishing that the man survive his term in office. I never called for Bush's death. I never called for any poster's death. Wishing someone dead is as good as committing the crime of murder, according to Christ.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-09-13   10:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Sam Houston (#9)

The people on this site, generally speaking, believe those who do not wish Obama dead SUPPORT him.

Yes. A discussion here is becoming difficult. If you don't completely agree with some of these ideologues why, then you are a "commie", or some other feeble minded nonsense.

And what, in the real adult world, was the option to OB? Political reality usually does not allow for a revolutionary change (typically followed by the horrors of civil war).

Its so childish.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-09-13   10:31:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Sam Houston (#41)

Wishing someone dead is as good as committing the crime of murder, according to Christ.

Sam...

Stop wandering off into religion to cover your erroneous ways. It wont work.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-13   10:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: christine (#33)

Quick search turned up this

Ron Paul was at a local tea party in Alvin, Texas....my point is it was the Ron Paul revolution that started the tea parties now that concept has been hijacked by the likes Beck,Rush,Hannity morons and is the reason he was not in DC

robnoel  posted on  2009-09-13   10:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

I don't vote, Tull. It doesn't matter to "the system" which way I lean. I work around "the system" to the extent I can. That's all any of us can do. Many don't realize it, though, and think they can somehow "change" it.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-09-13   10:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Cynicom (#40)

Roosevelt who ignored it and did nothing.

Commie bastid.

Voted into office four times. So much for democracy.

There's no place better thanTurtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-09-13   10:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Brian S (#0)

displayed their racism, ignorance, and bigotry

who are ALWAYS the ones making this about race? was there one sign that said anything at all about obama's race?

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   10:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Turtle (#46)

Commie bastid.

Voted into office four times. So much for democracy.

Roosevelt was the beginning of the end for this country.

Somehow I now feel we are at the ending time.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-13   10:36:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Sam Houston, brian s (#34)

The U.S. president is "at best a frontman and at worst, a hostage."

Both I believe.

Prolly more a hostage. And, to me, there is really no question that the intelligence community is perfectly capable of assasination of a sitting US president, and the President is quite aware of that.

And these useful idiots like the "teabaggers" and the Glen Beck crowd gives the reich wing political cover for the continued wars and institutional looting of the citizens.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-09-13   10:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Sam Houston (#41) (Edited)

Wishing someone dead is as good as committing the crime of murder, according to Christ.

then i'm a murderer in my heart because i do wish for the death of evil people. i'd start with animal abusers.

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   10:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: beyond the sea (#38) (Edited)

Jim is a friend of mine ....

Yeah and I cav walk on water. You really are a foreskin afficonado, a real bone smoker. Jim Traficant has never met you and that is a fact. On the otherhand, I've met with Jim Traficant in DC back in 1995 and he gave me a U.S. Flag that flew over the capitol. I have also been to a few of his rallies over the years.

Now skedaddle back over to the Serena Williams bullshit thread you started. Those of us who are concerned about our country can do without your childish remarks. I will call you Serena from now on. That name really suits you!

LACUMO  posted on  2009-09-13   10:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Freedomsnotfree (#0)

how do you like being referred to as a "bottomfeeder?"

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   10:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: tom007 (#49)

And these useful idiots like the "teabaggers"

so all 2 million of those in DC yesterday are useful idiots? see noone's #3.

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   11:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: robnoel (#44)

it must kill you to know RP is doing an event with Michelle Bachmann, huh?

futher, are you too saying that all 2 million of the attendees at the DC protest were partisan Rs?

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   11:07:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: robnoel (#29)

Stop avoiding the question...why was Ron Paul not there?

Well gee, I haven't a clue. Frankly, I'm not a Ron Paul guy. But hell, you have a show, invite him on and ask him. Now, back to you. Why did you cut and run from your homeland, only to come here and pee and moan when nearly two million people gather against a communist POS?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   11:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Sam Houston (#45)

So your entire wean yourself off 4um comment was bullshit?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   11:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

I'm amazed that you have to sink that low in order to justify your point they have a word for that it's called xenophobia ....congratulations

robnoel  posted on  2009-09-13   11:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Brian S (#0)

The Tea Party movement's core purpose and motivation is opposing Tyranny and (re)affirming Liberty!

How to distinguish Liberty from Tryanny:

 Liberty"Soft" Tyranny
1Rights are inherent in, and unalienable from, individualsRights are granted/rescinded by the majority through the government
2Fundamental rights are life, liberty, and property (absence of coercion)Fundamental rights are food, housing, and healthcare (absence of necessity)
3Property is owned by individuals who make decisions as to its use, improvement, and transferProperty is owned by 'the public' with government officials making decisions as to its use, improvement, and transfer
4Government exists to protect the rights of individualsGovernment exists to plan and direct the resources of society
5Government authority is decentralized in a federal system with limited and enumerated powersGovernment authority is centralized in a national system with broad and necessarily intrusive powers
6Government action is prescribed by rules fixed and announced beforehandGovernment action is arbitrary and at the descretion of "czars" and planning boards
7Economic activity is driven by a large number of small entities interacting according to simple rulesEconomic activity is driven by a small number of large entities operating within the constraints of complex regulations
8Effective innovation results from contrarian thinking, individual initiative, and the voluntary exchange of propertyEfficient implementation of government planning requires conformity of opinion, collective action, and the coerced transfer of property
9Standards of living for the many increase permanently as they utilize improved products and services conceived by the fewStandards of living for the many increase temporarily as they utilize property redistributed from the few
10Altruism is using one's own resources in concrete acts to help specific individualsAltruism is obligating the resources of others for broad-brush programs to help mankind in the abstract

Rights exists solely as a way to fairly decide whose will shall prevail in cases where two or more people disagree. They do not exist for the purpose of enslaving one person for the benefit of another (e.g., the "right" to free medical care.)

Liberty is the right to do whatever does not infringe the rights of others. Rights empower you to help yourself, free from interference by others.

Tyranny makes you a serf to be used by the elite to further their own power. Once upon a time, the nobility used religion to convince the serfs they had to serve the nobility. Modernly, the elite use good people's feelings of altruism to convince them to enslave both themselves and their neighbors. It's basically the same con game, just using a more sophisticated hook.


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C. S. Lewis

sourcery  posted on  2009-09-13   11:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: robnoel (#57)

you're not xenophobic towards the "teabaggers?"

you're being a hypocrite.

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   11:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: robnoel (#57)

Xenophobic

Fucking A I'm xenophobic. Toss in opposed to diversity, open borders, socialism and forced integration. I'm an American First, and for you to disparage those who gathered yesterday shows me where you are on the political spectrum. You're too cute by half Robby, and the next time you take a walk make sure and kiss the ground you walk on, not that I'd ever expect you to defend it.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   11:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: christine (#59)

I'm pointing out that the Ron Paul Revolution has been hi-jacked by the very people who trashed him...if you can't see that then I guess I'm a odd ball PS xenophobia is fear of foreigners

robnoel  posted on  2009-09-13   11:43:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jethro Tull (#60)

Sad

robnoel  posted on  2009-09-13   11:49:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: beyond the sea (#38)

Jim is a friend of mine ....

Man, does this ever explain a lot!... ;-) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-09-13   12:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: robnoel (#61)

I'm pointing out that the Ron Paul Revolution has been hi-jacked by the very people who trashed him.

Wrong...

For God's sake rob, Paul was put there to lure the suckers such as me into supporting him rather than a sincere third party person.

It worked...Just look back, it worked like a charm.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-13   12:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Cynicom (#64)

There was no "sincere third party person" or did I miss someone?

robnoel  posted on  2009-09-13   12:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Turtle, Cynicom (#46)

Voted into office four times. So much for democracy.

“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”

Thomas Jefferson quotes (American 3rd US President (1801-09). Author of the Declaration of Independence. 1762-1826)

___________________________________________________________

enuff said...

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-09-13   12:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: LACUMO (#51)

Yeah and I cav walk on water.

Spell much?

LMAO

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-09-13   12:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: LACUMO (#51)

I will call you Serena from now on.

I will call you "dick-for-brains" from now on. It's very fitting.

Jim T. went to Pitt during my time there, he was football, I was baseball. I know the guy a hell of a lot better than you.

And to the point ........ you must know that me posting about Jim, as I did very often previously, that I care a hell of a lot about the country.

But.... because you are an incorrigible lame PUNK, you cannot admit your simple, ignorant, presumptuous error in your first post to me.

SO ........... YOU ARE SIMPLY AN *SSHOLE!

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-09-13   12:28:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Refinersfire (#63)

Jim is a friend of mine ....

-----

Man, does this ever explain a lot!... ;-) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

LOL.......... his entire story will soon be in a newly issued book. Jim isn't what he appears to some.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-09-13   12:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: beyond the sea (#68)

Calm down and take a lude, dude.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-09-13   12:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: robnoel (#61) (Edited)

I'm pointing out that the Ron Paul Revolution has been hi-jacked by the very people who trashed him

you know what's in the hearts and minds of all 2million attendees yesterday, huh? i'd wager a large % of them were aligned with Paul politically and ideologically. and, btw, have you forgotten that RP stated that he's always been a republican and always will be? that was a stick in the craw of many of us.

have you missed the boos and criticism of the republican politicians who have appeared at the town hall meetings?

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   12:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: robnoel (#62)

Sad

What's sad are the comments of a man who purports to be astute politically, but instead is ignorant. The two million people who gathered yesterday are decent folk who traveled to DC on their own dime & time because the time is *now* to reject Obama. If we can't agree that that is a righteous cause, please humor me and use your show to expose these xenophobes for the dupes you claim they are.

I'll be listening, and I'm positive I'll hear ---->>>> (((crickets))).

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   12:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: robnoel (#62)

i guess it's ok with you for the leftists, like the author of this article, to label every person at that rally yesterday as bottomfeeders, racists, bigots, ignorant, and to be xenophobic.

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   12:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Jethro Tull (#72)

I was calling your comments xenophobic I never said anything about the people gathered... I'm pointing out who is claiming credit for the "Tea Party" concept and that those who trashed it have now found religion....I guess you missed the shows when I've brought this very subject up or more than one occasion ....PS theres a knob on your radio dial...use it!

robnoel  posted on  2009-09-13   12:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: christine (#73)

That's a leap....wasting my time here...goodbye it was fun!

robnoel  posted on  2009-09-13   12:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Sam Houston, Scam Houston (#26)

Most of you, except for Flintlock, who is a loyal Pubbie, for sure,

Scam, Like most here I was a Ronald Reagan Republican. In order to try to achieve gridlock, I voted for McCain. In the prior cycle, I voted Badnarak. If you look at the few good people left in Congress, like Ron Paul, they're ALL Republicans and I continue to support them.

YOU OTOH are nothing but a RAT Stooge, and that's on your good days. Other days you're just another useful idiot

maybe even a paid poster a la Badeye (he may even BE Badeye except for the fact he never "GRINS")

Anyone with a brain, anyone who knows me from El Pee, FU or here can see from that statement what a true puddenhead you really are (now,just for you)

:)

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole a bike and asked him to forgive me.

Flintlock  posted on  2009-09-13   12:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: robnoel (#74)

Cut and run. Again?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   12:54:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Jethro Tull (#77)

Yip I'm good at leaving losers.

robnoel  posted on  2009-09-13   13:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: robnoel (#78)

Americans call folks like that quitters. It's no wonder Mandela had his way with such bold stock.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   13:05:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: robnoel (#78)

Yip I'm good at leaving losers.

robby...

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   13:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: LACUMO (#21)

How about Jim Traficant?

I don't know ... he's soft on Jews ... hehehehehe !!!

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-13   13:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Brian S (#0)

The left resorts to its true form: bigotry, ugliness and accusing other of being what they themselves are by way of obfuscating the issue. Scum, pure and simple.

Rudgear  posted on  2009-09-13   13:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: robnoel (#78)

in case you missed it...um, all Rs who trashed Ron Paul?

Other sponsors of the rally include the Heartland Institute, Americans for Tax Reform and the Ayn Rand Center for Individuals Rights.

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   13:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: robnoel (#65)

There was no "sincere third party person"

There was none.

Paul left that "possibility" open until it was too late for any one else.

His son is running as pub. Love their party.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-13   13:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: christine (#80)

What you asking me to do is give support to those that are responsible for putting Obama into office and I'm not talking about democrats....if you can't see that..I'm sorry like it said it was fun..nothing personal

robnoel  posted on  2009-09-13   13:50:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Flintlock (#76)

and Traficant is a democrat you'd support!

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   13:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: robnoel (#85)

Your man RP is hosting an event with Michelle Bachmann, a person you've called an "air head." If we're judged by our friends, what does that make Paul?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   13:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: buckeroo (#70)

..... save it.

This is not your business ....... unless you're that presumptuous loser's keeper.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-09-13   16:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: christine, James Traficant (#86)

and Traficant is a democrat you'd support!

Is he still a dem? Don't be so sure.

If he ran again for Congress, my advice to him would be run as an Independent. If he tried to run in the Primary they'll gang up on him and it'll cost him a LOT of money

If he runs as an Independent, all he needs are the signatures to get on the ballot and then win a three-way race. With his base of supporters and name recognition...he's got a very good shot of making it.

Just my 2 pesos

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole a bike and asked him to forgive me.

Flintlock  posted on  2009-09-13   17:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: beyond the sea SERENA, All (#68)

And to the point ........ you must know that me posting about Jim, as I did very often previously, that I care a hell of a lot about the country.

Jim T. went to Pitt during my time there, he was football, I was baseball.

Sure you did. My sister's cat's ass you previously posted about him and in favor of him. Truth be known, you never set foot on the University of Pittsburgh Campus and never attended a football or baseball game. Strictly a figment of your imagination.

You claim to be 63 years old. Well I'm 66 and Jim Traficant is 69 years old. He would have come and gone at Pitt before you even graduated from high school assuming you even did that. Come on tell us the years you attended Pitt. I guess you were a child progidy and attended Pitt while you were in diapers or when you began to wear panties and a trainning bra. What a phoney piece of human excrement you really are.

Well Serena, tell us some more fairy tales. Once a bone smoker-always a bone smoker.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-09-13   18:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: noone222 (#81)

I don't know ... he's soft on Jews ... hehehehehe !!!

Just the kind of soft on jews that we need.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-09-13   18:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: robnoel (#13)

I'm left to conclude it was nothing more than a collection of delusional "sunshine patriots"

I'm thinking there are different levels of awareness amongst the dissatisfied. I believe their reasons are as diverse as their economic make up. I'm glad to see them make this rally happen.

At least they are people that are trying to do something and that's a start. We need to stop this fascism now before we have a slaughter.

I won't make any comment about Ron Paul. I'm a cynical person with little trust (none actually) for anything "FEDERAL".

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-13   18:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: christine (#86)

and Traficant is a democrat you'd support!

You betcha !!!

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-13   18:25:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Sam Houston (#26)

and yet there was not NEARLY the venom against Cheney-Bush as I've seen on here against Obama.

Ya gotta be shittin me ... I personally thought Clinton sucked, Bush sucked bigger ones, and now this liar is gonna out do Bush.

I think the level of disdain shown for Bush here on 4UM was equal to that being shown for Obama, only Bush didn't promise open and transparent government, which made it take a little longer to realize what a scumbag he was.

The Democrats and Independents should be irate at this point because of Obama's lies about transparency in government. The Dems and Independents are getting shit on like the Publicans did by Bush.

I guess that's equal protection !!!

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-13   18:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: noone222, christine, Jethro Tull, All (#93)

To: christine

and Traficant is a democrat you'd support!

You betcha !!!

You can add me to that list as I would proudly support him. Even Jethro Tull likes him and said he would support him wih time/momey. I would be willing to bet that Jim Trafficant wouldn't run as a lousy demonwit or a pubbie. Whatever he might run for, I would be willing to bet that he would win. That even goes for a national office and there aren't very many of those. noone222 you are fast becoming one of my favorite posters. Very astute, intelligent, and no bullshit.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-09-13   18:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Sam Houston (#41)

Wishing someone dead is as good as committing the crime of murder, according to Christ.

While Christ (the Son of God) isn't known to have killed anything besides a fig tree ... his Daddy killed em by the zillions !!!

Let's leave God out of the petty bickering, He's on the back nine, smoking a cigar lining up his putt.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-13   18:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: LACUMO (#95)

Thanks a lot, it's mutual.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-13   18:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: christine (#52)

how do you like being referred to as a "bottomfeeder?"

I couldn't care less...I was telling my brother this AM , I was completely impressed by the caliber of this crowd...angry, you bet... respectful of property and courteous to others, ABSOLUTLEY. This WAS America. Fathers, mothers, children, vets, business owners, hourly wage earners...everyone was represented. I was FLOORED by the outpouring. The powers that be are in SERIOUS trouble, and I mean SERIOUS. These folks aren't going to stand by while their country goes communism and just watch it happen. I figure for every 1 person that showed up, 10 more hold the same ideas. Let that soak in for just a second...the PTB are up against a 20 million person army...many, many vets, police and current military. I have know doubt they are crapping all over themselves...I also have little doubt we are in for an "event" of epic proportions to try to corral the sheep. I am VERY encouraged...the American people are FINALLY waking up...GOD help those on the opposing side.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-09-13   19:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: noone222, All (#97)

Thanks a lot, it's mutual.

A tip of the hat to you.

Maybe we need to start a thread, a serious thread drafting Jim Traficant to run in 2012 for president. They won't be able to scare him off.

Maybe you could start the process off and running by contacting Jim and tell him our intentions. We have nothing to lose and there is nary anyone else who has a a score to settle with the ones who framed and cheated him.

Just to find out how much support he might have nationally, why don't you start a thread so we can guage the support for him as a national candidate? We could send him the results. He could win back his old congressional seat in the blink of an eye, but would the real criminals seat him? Now is the time to do this. We have no time to waste! Whaddyyouthink?

LACUMO  posted on  2009-09-13   19:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Freedomsnotfree (#98)

thank you. i have goosebumps from head to toe. ;)

christine  posted on  2009-09-13   19:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Freedomsnotfree (#98)

I am VERY encouraged...the American people are FINALLY waking up...

I hope you noticed the huge numbers of women????

That to me is a real indicator.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-13   19:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: christine (#53)

so all 2 million of those in DC yesterday are useful idiots? see noone's #3.

Its certainly their right to protest, and no doubt there were a lot of them who are honestly concerned about whatever. But I do think that many if not most are just reacting to the insipid and dishonest tactics of the insurance companies with their paid for "studies" and hysterical tactics adopted by some republicans, not to mention the out right lies by some of these people.

They must know their rice bowl (and a very nice rice bowl at that) is in a little danger of being upset.

As for illegals getting medical care, I say no, but guess what, they get it anyway, at the emergency room, and you and I end up paying for it at confiscatory rates.

So let's be sure not to change this system so that in a few years our entire income will go to the medical insurers.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-09-13   19:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: christine (#73)

i guess it's ok with you for the leftists, like the author of this article, to label every person at that rally yesterday as bottomfeeders, racists, bigots, ignorant, and to be xenophobic.

No that is not right.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-09-13   19:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: tom007 (#102)

Whatever crap the Insurance Companies, doctors and hospitals are getting away with is the fault of those willing to tolerate it.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-13   19:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Sam Houston (#34)

My great namesake was a lifelong, staunch Democrat, BTW

Did I ever tell you that I owned a beach house right next door to the old Sam Houston estate at Cedar Point, Texas.

A new house was built on the site as the old foundation now lays about 100 yards off the coast on underwater.

Last I knew(10 years on) the site was still registered as a historic site with the State of Texas.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-09-13   20:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: buckeroo, LACUMO (#70)

Calm down and take a lude, dude.

Hey bucky:

“You really are a foreskin afficonado, a real bone smoker” — post # 51 from LACUMO

Those are the words of that jerkoff that you are seemingly siding with. You can stand with that *sshole, but I don't want to hear from your sorry *ss if you do.

This LACUMO character is one giant *sshole.

Check out how the d*ckhead attacked my patriotism early in the thread for merely posting this thread. The bastard needs his teeth knocked out.

Around 40 years ago I served this country in the Army Security Agency, and I love this country always. That *sshole needs to be smacked around.

So ...... keep your silly comments to yourself.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-09-13   20:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: noone222 (#3)

The Million Moron March (although it clearly didn't total a million) attracted every sort of crank and malcontent who could ride to DC.

Shoonra  posted on  2009-09-13   20:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: buckeroo (#70)

lude

I ain't seen a "lude" in 30 years, do they still make 'em.?

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-09-13   20:49:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: LACUMO (#90)

Sure you did. My sister's cat's ass you previously posted about him and in favor of him. Truth be known, you never set foot on the University of Pittsburgh Campus and never attended a football or baseball game. Strictly a figment of your imagination.

You claim to be 63 years old. Well I'm 66 and Jim Traficant is 69 years old. He would have come and gone at Pitt before you even graduated from high school assuming you even did that. Come on tell us the years you attended Pitt. I guess you were a child progidy and attended Pitt while you were in diapers

Hey shit-for-brains. Traficant (68 years old) graduated from High School in 1959 and the University of Pittsburgh in 1963. I began there in 1964. Since my family was very involved with the University, I was on campus often years before I attended classes. You are wrong on all counts.

But ... suffice it to say that you change the subject from your ignorant attack on my patriotism just for my posting a thread on Serena Williams rant.

Finding out you were real STUPID to make that ridiculous attack, you have tried to demean me in every other direction.

Face it dork ........ YOU ARE A WORLD CLASS *SSHOLE!

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-09-13   20:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: LACUMO (#90)

You claim to be 63 years old. Well I'm 66 and Jim Traficant is 69 years old.

Watch out dork. Number 14 might throw that ball right up your nose.

lol

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-09-13   20:56:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: beyond the sea (#109)

Hey shit-for-brains. Traficant (68 years old) graduated from High School in 1959 and the University of Pittsburgh in 1963. I began there in 1964. Since my family was very involved with the University, I was on campus often years before I attended classes. You are wrong on all counts.

Listen Serena,

Send me an e-mail with your real name and I'll go to youngstown and contact Jim in person. We'll see if he really knows you. It took you along time to respomd to my querie. I still say you are a shit eating liar.

Now send your e-mail and name pronto. If Jim Traficant says he knows you and you are a friend, I'll apologize. I find it hard to believe your mommy and daddy were very involve with the university and you prowled all over the campus in your panties and trainning bra.

Watch for my e-mail to you. I will send my phone number so you can call me and give all your pertinent info so I can contact Jim to see if he knows you. With your neocon stand on the issues and your love for the jews, I can't figure out how you can support a true patriot such as Jim Traficant.

Now get that info to me right away Serena! If you are afraid to give me your real name----just give me your last name. Jim Traficant will be able to tell me if he knows you. If you don't provide the info so I can check out your claims, you'll just be regarded as a lying big bag of hot air.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-09-13   21:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: beyond the sea (#106)

Around 40 years ago I served this country in the Army Security Agency, and I love this country always. That *sshole needs to be smacked around.

Whooptyfuckingdo! About 46 years ago I served in the military and served for 4 years and discharged honorably. I was taken out of boot camp at 9 weeks and made part of the honor guard for lyndon Johnson. I also served under Otto Graham who was a full Captain, one rank below Admiral. The Otto Graham I served under was the Otto Graham who was the great quarterback of the Cleveland Browns.

Just to let you know that serving the president as part of the honor guard would have been something to really be proud of had the president been Barry Goldwater. Lyndon Johnson was a first class very beligerent shyster and a lying traitor. that congered up the gulf of tonkin fiasco and allowed the jews to attack the U.S.S. Liberty.

Now go blow smoke up someones ass that really cares what the hell you or I did while serving in the military. I sure as hell wouldn't want my sons serving the elite scum who can't seem to get enough of war.

.........and I count you as one of them.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-09-13   22:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: beyond the sea (#109)

Listen Serena! Don't bother to send me an e-mail. I don't need it. I'll go to Pitt and get a copy of the baseball team roster for the years 1963-66 along with pictures of the players. Then I'll take them over to Youngstown to Jim Traficant and see if he knows you.

You've given me enough background about yourself and where you live to put th pieces together. I'll bet you a hundred he doesn't know your lying sorry ass.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-09-13   22:15:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: noone222 (#3)

It's not just 9-11 either. Pensions have been stolen, Corporations have been stolen, Bankers have been enriched after raping the public trust, taxpayers have unwittingly been named co-signers and co-BANKRUPTS for the bankers and the perverts in D.C., preemptive wars have killed our children, terror alerts and HOMO-LAND SECURITY DIRECTIVES have named normal God-fearing Americans as terrorists, our phones and computers are tapped, military forces have been put into place for strategic purposes because they know resistance levels will increase, and some of the people currently influencing the Obama Administration have written about and believe in heinous population control measures that border on SATANIC.

Kick ass post. I would only add "and they have STOLEN so much of our hard- earned wages over the years in taxes and the SS ripoff to such an extent that if we had it all back in a lump sum we'd all be rich."

KinkoTheKlown  posted on  2009-09-14   1:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: noone222 (#3)

Hear-fucking-Here !!!


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-09-14   1:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Sam Houston (#9)

Sam Asshat: The blend of your beloved Socialist/Communist/World Governance Model with pure Corporate Totalitarian is fascism at it's deadliest peak.

Well done, you STUPID MOTHER FUCKING RAT STOOLIE !


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-09-14   1:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: noone222 (#10)

The stupid sons of dumb bitches that believe Socialism is JUST GREAT for duhMurika don't understand that FASCIST INJUSTICE IS WHAT HOLDS IT TOGETHER.

Same as Communism just not quite 'evolved' fully yet.

Stupid POSs built the perfect New World Communist Order...fuckin' assholes.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-09-14   1:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: randge (#11)

When trotskyite mice squeak like this, it means that someone has just put a scare into them.

They're shitting their tiny little britches.

Let's hang all of the Traitors, burn down their houses and run their families into exile or whatever.

They'll ALL shit their pants sooner or later...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-09-14   1:46:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

+++++


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-09-14   1:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Flintlock (#15)

With what is directly in front of us; it appears they're all going to have to be dealt with; sooner or later.

Maybe they'll do a "Jonestown" revisit.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-09-14   1:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

After seeing the size of the crowd of demonstrators, the king left town. I have no doubt that TPTB were busy last night laying plans for the next catastrophic event against the sheople to whip us into line again.

Right you are.

I hear obamalamadingdong "isn't concerned about Osama bin CIA" no mo...he's as good a bell-ringer for the NWO as any so why not ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-09-14   1:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: beyond the sea (#109)

put that asshole on filter and save yourself the time...time is a hot commodity right now as you well know.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-09-14   1:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: LACUMO (#112)

I sure as hell wouldn't want my sons serving the elite scum who can't seem to get enough of war.

.........and I count you as one of them.

Brilliant ........ (sarcasm off).

You are clueless, bonebrains.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-09-14   5:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: LACUMO, buckeroo, F16Fighter (#113)

I’ll sum this up for you one more time, LACUMO.

If you harbored anything other than vitriol in your head you would just maybe understand that by posting that “Serena” thread, I was eventually hoping to get to a larger more important theme ....... that theme being the arrogant coarseness that so many of the younger people of our country of today embrace. That coarseness is helping to destroy a couple of generations and, to a certain degree, destroy the country.

You see, it all has to do with a deep caring for the well-being of our country. I believe that is why most of us are on forums such as this one. Agreed?

I see by looking at some of your older posts that you seem to have that caring for the well-being of the country too. So, you should know who like-minded people are. You should not immediately set out to needlessly attack someone who most likely cares about the country as much (if not more) than you do.

But unfortunately, you did needlessly attack.

On the Serena thread you immediately chose to lash out in a seemingly shortsighted attempt at righteousness.

You wrote: "What makes you think anyone would give a shit about Serena Williams or her antics.

It is plain to see your priorities are not on our country which is being stolen from us, but you are more concerned about the childish antics of this spoiled tennis brat. Get your shit together!

You say you are 66 years old. Well, (jmo) you just may have a little growing up and out to do.

And by the way ........ two members of my family were instrumental in much having to do with Pitt. One of them was instrumental in the planning and construction of the Cathedral of Learning. And another was an All-American athlete who subsequently (years later) was involved in an unofficial way in "recruiting" guys like Mike Ditka to Pitt. Yes, it's all true really ..... but it's still completely irrelevant to the issue at hand ..... that being that you need not lash out with no good reason at people as you did. It serves no benefit to anyone on this site or to the country that you say you care about.

Let's leave it at that, LACUMO.

Be cool and have a nice day.

****

Rahm Emanuel had the top part of his righthand middle finger removed as a young man because of infection. It is said that because of the loss ...... his vocabulary has been cut nearly in half.

;-)

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-09-14   5:40:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Rotara (#122)

put that asshole on filter and save yourself the time...time is a hot commodity right now as you well know.

I hear you, Rotara. You are probably right, but I always have a haunting need to try to resolve disputes like this ....... not to just let them fade into nothingness with the acrimony still lingering out there.

Along those lines see my last attempt at resolution ..... see post # 124.

Be well .........

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-09-14   5:46:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: KinkoTheKlown (#114)

I would only add "and they have STOLEN so much of our hard- earned wages over the years in taxes and the SS ripoff to such an extent that if we had it all back in a lump sum we'd all be rich."

The most damaging effect of the U.S. Tax System IMHO is the breakdown and division of the family unit when both parents are forced to work just to achieve one income.

The family unit is the building block of society. The intent of the Income Tax scheme is to destroy it.

We have Americans funding Israeli interests when they can't send their own children to college ... something drastically wrong with this picture.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-14   5:52:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Shoonra (#107)

The Million Moron March (although it clearly didn't total a million) attracted every sort of crank and malcontent who could ride to DC.

I hear it's a government holiday, shouldn't you be off ?

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-14   5:53:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: LACUMO (#99)

I think Traficant will make some noise and should make his intentions clearer ... HE KNOWS HE HAS NATIONAL LEVEL SUPPORT. (I'd bet he has International Level support after his interview with Greta).

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-14   5:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Shoonra (#107) (Edited)

attracted every sort of crank and malcontent who could ride to DC.

Takes one to know one ... you certainly qualify.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-14   7:37:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Cynicom (#48) (Edited)

Roosevelt was the beginning of the end for this country.

In this century my vote goes to Woodrow Wilson/Mandel House.

However, FDR did spread the socialism to the national level through socialist security.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-14   7:40:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Shoonra (#107)

The Million Moron March (although it clearly didn't total a million) attracted every sort of crank and malcontent who could ride to DC.

No, it totaled around 2 million, you're right, 1 million is a lowball count.

You have real contempt for anybody who doesn't like government, don't you? Did you ever consider that you may be at the wrong forum?

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-14   8:00:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: noone222 (#130)

In this century my vote goes to Woodrow Wilson/Mandel House.

As for Jewish evil influence you are correct.

Wilson committed a cardinal sin by sending thousands of troops to Russia during their revolution.

Roosevelt on the other hand recognized the Soviet Union as a legitimate government as one of his first acts in office. Then a prelude to the end, he brought in hundreds of communists into his government, they have been in charge ever since.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-14   8:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Cynicom (#101)

I hope you noticed the huge numbers of women????

What I notice was the diversity...seems like everyone was present...in huge numbers. The giant awakens.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-09-14   8:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: SonOfLiberty (#131)

This gathering has sure identified those who are comfortable with governmental chains, and those who aren't.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-14   8:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Cynicom (#132)

No question McCarthy spotted em (FDR's Commies) and tried to expose them. He was villified by the media and others.

I'd like to state for the record that Social Security in its inception and acceptance by the people was not a terrible idea, nor was it perceived as federal slavery, which is what it has become.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-14   8:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Jethro Tull (#134)

So has the eighth 9/11 whinefest.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-09-14   8:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Shoonra (#107)

The Million Moron March (although it clearly didn't total a million) attracted every sort of crank and malcontent who could ride to DC.

Yea...all those malcontents that are against government control into EVERY aspect of their lives. Yes, I was there...and the last official count I heard was 1.7 million. You should have been "man" enough to voice your hatred to those at the march, if you were even there. My guess is you are a gutless coward in person.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-09-14   8:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Freedomsnotfree (#133)

Pols and their managers will tell you that when the women come out, be careful of what you say and what you do.

I was astounded by the number of older ladies and the very apparent expressive attitude.

To me these were the white, working Americans. The bitter ones left behind.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-14   8:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Jethro Tull (#134)

This gathering has sure identified those who are comfortable with governmental chains, and those who aren't.

No kidding ... the thing called TRIBULATION is the threshing that separates the wheat from the chaff. There has been much tribulation at 4UM ...

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-14   8:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Freedomsnotfree (#137)

Yes, I was there

Thank you for being there for those of us unable to be there. YOU and those like you will save this country from a civil war if it's possible to do so.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-14   8:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: noone222 (#135)

McCarthy took it tough, in his time. Too bad, as he turns out to have been right about most everything he was saying. Even the Soviets admitted as much in the early 1990's.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-14   8:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: noone222, Jethro tull (#135)

No question McCarthy spotted em (FDR's Commies) and tried to expose them. He was villified by the media and others.

Ten long years,before McCarthy, Chambers gave Roosevelt the ENTIRE list of communist spies via Adolf Berle of the State Dept.

Berle would not repeat Roosevelts exact words but did say it was an outburst of vile, crude and obscene language and he was thrown out.

Ten long years before the so called McCarthy witch hunt, Chambers had given Roosevelt the exact same list of names. Ten years.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-14   8:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Esso, Elliott Jackalope (#136)

So has the eighth 9/11 whinefest.

Elliott Jackalope put it best; please explain how building #7 fell into it's own footprint, considering the relatively minor damage and sans a plane strike. He's also still waiting for an answer.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-14   8:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: SonOfLiberty (#141)

Son...

See my #142

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-14   8:23:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Jethro Tull (#143)

Allah stomped on it.

I thought everybody knew that.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-09-14   8:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Cynicom (#144)

Actually, I did read it already. What an interesting situation. Was there some kind of documentation you have a link to, I'd like to read more about that and add it to my archives if possible?

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-14   8:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Jethro Tull (#143)

Elliott Jackalope put it best; please explain how building #7 fell into it's own footprint, considering the relatively minor damage and sans a plane strike. He's also still waiting for an answer.

So what is it that makes people remain in the lie ... is it fear ?

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-14   8:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Cynicom (#138)

Absolutely no doubt people were P!SSED...even the older "gentile" southern ladies :?) and no one was afraid to express exactly how they felt. I saw a HUGE number of Oath Keepers there. These guys look like they are standing on the "ready" button. These globalists are going to have a serious day of reckoning...and after this march, they have to know it. It was a sight to behold, and I've never seen a larger, more determined group of people in my 51 years.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-09-14   8:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Cynicom (#142)

Adolf Berle of the State Dept.

Any relation to Milton Berle ... sounds a little Jewish to me. Of course, some of the Jews are for freedom to such a degree that they stand in the face of the fury their not so freedom minded brethern will most assuredly bring forth.

The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity for a pound of flesh.

noone222  posted on  2009-09-14   8:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: SonOfLiberty, noone222 (#146)

Son...

This is a direct quote from Cong. Martin Dies on his meeting at the same time and the same subject, with Roosevelt.

"In 1940, I wired the President appealing for the cooperation of Government law enforcement agencies in anti-fifth-column activities. The President telephoned my home in Orange, said he appreciated the telegram, wanted to review the situation and asked if I could leave for Washington that evening. Full of hope engendered by his friendly tone, I arrived for our scheduled 12 o'clock meeting, and cooled my heels for nearly an hour. Finally, the door opened and out walked Gardner Jackson, the man who had paid David Mayne for the forged [William Dudley] Pelley letters with which Representative [Frank E.] Hook had hoped to destroy the Committee.*

I went in and Roosevelt had a stenographer take down the conversation. I asked if that wasn't rather unusual and he said, "Well I think it is best for everyone." I said, "That's fine--if I can get a copy of it." "You can get a copy of it," the President said.

We had established the fact that thousands of Communists, and their stooges and sympathizers were on the Government payroll, and I said, "Mr. President, we must do something about this. Here is a list of many of these people. We have their membership records in Communist-controlled organizations. If you understand the Communists as well as I do, you will know that they are in the government for one purpose alone, and that is to steal important military and diplomatic secrets to transmit them to Moscow."

The President was furious. I was surprised at his anger. He called me "Mr. Congressman"--he had called me "Martin" before--"Mr. Congressman, you must see a bug-a-boo under every bed." "No, I never look under the bed," I replied. "Well," he said, "I have never seen a man that had such exaggerated ideas about this thing. I do not believe in Communism any more than you do, but there is nothing wrong with the Communists in this country. Several of the best friends I have are Communists."

Direct quote from Dies records and his book.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-14   8:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: noone222 (#149)

Adolf Berle was not a Jew to best of my recall.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-14   8:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: noone222 (#147)

Yes, it's a fear that their government can and will create, and or use, events to promote wars and further restrict personal freedoms. In any crime, the first question an investigator asks is, "who benefits."? In the case of 9-11 the benefactors are Israel, the MIC and the ever expanding layer of local government.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-14   8:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: noone222 (#140)

Thanks noon222. I pray to GOD it doesn't come to that, but after Saturday, the PTB are in serious trouble. Never discount the effect we ALL have my friend...I read your posts and you are ALWAYS a voice, and I thank YOU, fortunately for all of us, none of us are crying out in the wilderness anymore...MILLIONS of people are listening.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-09-14   8:37:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Freedomsnotfree (#153)

Any word on a follow up?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-14   8:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Jethro Tull (#154)

not that I know of...my guess is the tea parties are growing exponentially in numbers...I know the ones around here are. The next mass gathering in DC, may not be as peaceful.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-09-14   8:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Freedomsnotfree (#155)

The rumor factory has it that Obama and his cronies are going to try and get this passed via a parliamentary procedure, despite the overwhelming opposition. A literal force feeding of their agenda to us "for our own good". I suspect that they are either blind demagogues who really honestly think that we're idiots, or that they want to incite some really bad things in this nation.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-14   8:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: SonOfLiberty (#156)

If they shove this down Americas throat, the next rally WON"T be nearly as peaceful. With barry being appointed as chairman of the UN security council last week, he'll be able to bring in "peacekeepers" to quell the "unrest". This is treason at it's absolute finest.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-09-14   9:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Freedomsnotfree (#157)

That's not a bad thing. There's something positive to be said for absolute clarity in regards to right and wrong. It strikes me as absolutely absurd that these government morons cannot see what their arrogance is creating. Too bad for them.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-14   9:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: Freedomsnotfree (#148)

I saw a HUGE number of Oath Keepers there

wonderful. did you see any signs that were racist or referred to Obama's color?

christine  posted on  2009-09-14   10:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: christine, *Leftwing Loon Alert* (#159)

The loony left will paint it racist regardless of the truth. It's best for folks to treat the word racist with the same shrug they do anti-Semite.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-14   10:21:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: SonOfLiberty (#158)

There's a payday coming for those that have/are committing treason. There arrogance will be their undoing.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-09-14   10:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: christine (#159)

wonderful. did you see any signs that were racist or referred to Obama's color?

Absolutely not...not one, and I can assure you if one had been present, it would be ALL OVER THE MSM.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-09-14   10:29:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Freedomsnotfree (#162)

i didn't think so, yet there are articles like this posted on the net. this one is especially egregious, imo.

www.atlargely.com/atlarge...acy-has-risen-welcome-to- the-cold-civil-war.html

The Confederacy has risen... welcome to the Cold Civil War... If you think I am perhaps overreacting, then consider the number and more importantly, the kind of people who attended this boot-marching, corporate sponsored, hate-festival:

1. Racists

2. Birthers

3. Commie-fearing idiots

4. Religious Extremists

5. Confederates

6. White

Complete with confederate flags, Nazi images, and so forth, this was truly an inspiration for propagandists everywhere of how to scare the stupid into a stampede against their own best interests. Via Think Progress:

"Members of ThinkProgress attended today’s march and the signs carried by these protesters were hardly nonpartisan — and were often racist, radical portrayals of Obama, despite DeMint’s claim. Some examples of what we saw" (see Think Progress)

--snip--

christine  posted on  2009-09-14   10:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Brian S (#0)

Others yelled "You lie, you lie!"

On Telemundo, the Mexcrement is told "Don't worry about what Obama said."

So he's gotta be lying to somebody.

Anti-racism is code for white genocide.

The call of "equality," is a siren song that can only mean the destruction of all that we cherish as being human. -- Murray Rothbard

It is perfectly legitimate to assume that the races are different in their cognitive abilities and in their willpower and accordingly are unequally suited for the task of setting up societies, and that the better races are characterized in particular by their special ability to strengthen social bonds. -- Ludwig von Mises

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-14   11:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: christine (#163)

Don't you give it another though...this is garbage. I didn't see any of this...I did see a number of blacks, Hispanics, Asians etc.there also, yes, whites were the largest group represented...they're also the largest percentage of the population NOT on the public dole. This was a FREEDOM rally, nothing more. This cut across parties, race, religion or age. The fact that the MSM is spreading so much disinformation should be an indication as to the panic they're in. It's VERY encouraging actually!

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2009-09-14   11:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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