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Title: The Decline of Freedom4um
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://TYur
Published: Sep 13, 2009
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2009-09-13 15:14:05 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 668
Comments: 16


Poster Comment:

I have noticed for the last year of so that Freedom4um has reached its peak and is now on the decline. The reason? The smart, open-minded ones have left, and it has now become a crackpot site full of 9-11 "Truthers" (sic) and Kennedy conspiracist nutcases holding a trial for almost 50 years. Mock other crackpot sites all you want. Look in the mirror, because you are no better.

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#1. To: Turtle, Turdle, christine, all (#0) (Edited)

Poor Turdle always a day late and a brick short. 4um now has a higher Alexa rating than El Pee. It's summer and things do fluctuate, but I imagine ol' Goldi-Pox is shitting a load of bricks right now. You might want one.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-09-13   15:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#0)

Turdle:

I think that both management and participants on this forum have shown wholesale indulgence to swamp dwellers such as yourself.

If you don't find that your opinions echoed to a large degree or that they are met with general acceptance, that's your own look out, ain't it? You know quite well the sort of posters this place attracts.

This is one of the most tolerant forums inhabiting this particular corner of the ideological world, and I think you've been well treated here. Why do you bite the hand that provides you with the soapbox and a megaphone that you use to shower us with all the little intimate details of your life swampdom?

Maybe you'd be happier somewheres else??

SALUS POPULI SUPREMA LEX

randge  posted on  2009-09-13   15:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Turtle (#0)

I came back, and was welcomed back by Christine.

How bad could this site be? As far as to what you're talking about, I'd rather be on a site where there's plenty of different things to read, and discuss, than the mainstream nonsense with the same old lame points of view.

Here, my lunacy doesn't look out of place. On other sites, it does. What does that say about the other sites? Too many people with the same thoughts and ideas, and that doesn't help anyone.

Especially when everyone is content to do nothing.

Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2009-09-13   15:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#1)

It's summer and things do fluctuate, but I imagine ol' Goldi-Pox is shitting a load of bricks right now. You might want one.

What would one fetch on e-Bay?

Jim Rome was going on about some pro athlete who put his used Whizzinator up for auction and some sap paid $750 for the device. (It's used for taking 'clean' urine, when going in to be drug tested.)

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-09-13   16:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)

I'd rather be on a site where there's plenty of different things to read, and discuss, than the mainstream nonsense with the same old lame points of view.

Amen!


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-09-13   16:11:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod, Turdle (#4)

It's summer and things do fluctuate, but I imagine ol' Goldi-Pox is shitting a load of bricks right now. You might want one.

What would one fetch on e-Bay?

I don't know, but I bet Turdle could dig up a least 50¢. Of course he'd have go collect cans for a while to raise it.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-09-13   16:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Turtle (#0)

Some people just can't comprehend the obvious "truths".

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-09-13   16:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Turtle (#0)

Well, I did notice that the well-meaning posters who thought Obama would end the wars (LOL!) and that ObamaCare would be great left. I guess now the ten percenters who think JFK was killed by a random civilian pedestrian sharpshooter acting totally on his own are upset?

You know, ten percent of people also believe in fairies and unicorns.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2009-09-13   16:30:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Turtle, All (#0)

The smart, open-minded ones have left,

Well now young man, that is a rather outrageous statement for anyone to make, particularly in someone elses's house.

Lets assume for the act of discussion you are correct.

That indicates two things.

Those that are left are not too well educated, whether formally or otherwise, and that we are remiss in...ADDING...SOMETHING...positive to the forum. I have always given you credit for adding humor and when you wish to do so, you can at times do some very good writing.

Putting the knock on others is always very easy to do, throw stones and then run. You would do well to amend your original post and not further lower your stature.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-13   16:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Turtle (#0)

Turtle.

First off, I like you despite your adherence to crackpot government theories that are shared by a tiny, elite minority. That said, I can report accurately that 4um's numbers have increased over the last few months by app. 30%. That would include the number of unique posters & posts themselves. As a friend I think you're at your best when discussing leftists, commies, pugs and girls. Exploding heads and collapsing buildings are yesterday's news. On that we agree.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-13   16:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Turtle (#0)

The smart, open-minded ones have left, and it has now become a crackpot site full of 9-11 "Truthers" (sic) and Kennedy conspiracist nutcases holding a trial for almost 50 years.

CBS NEWS REPORTS ON THE TEN PERCENTERS:

Most Americans still remain suspicious of the lone gunman conclusion of the Warren Commission Report and skeptical that the truth will ever be learned. Only one in 10 Americans believes that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. More than seven times as many think Oswald did not act alone.

Did Oswald act alone?

Yes

10%

No

76%

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/11/20/opinion/main23166.shtml

Vitamin Z  posted on  2009-09-13   16:59:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Turtle (#0)

The smart, open-minded ones have left, and it has now become a crackpot site full of 9-11 "Truthers" (sic) and Kennedy conspiracist nutcases holding a trial for almost 50 years.

CBS NEWS/ NY TIMES REPORTS ON THE SIXTEEN (16) PERCENTERS

Polling Data

When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?

Oct. 2006

Telling the truth 16%

Hiding something 53%

Mostly lying 28%

Not sure 3%

Source: The New York Times / CBS News

Vitamin Z  posted on  2009-09-13   17:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Turtle (#0)

I have noticed for the last year of so that Freedom4um has reached its peak and is now on the decline.

Turtle, Sorry but I don't agree with you. I've been around here since day one, and although I seldom post here anymore I stop by daily to see what's going on. The real bright point of 4um is it allows EVERYONE to post without exception. I can't say I've ever seen a post deleted by the mod. All viewpoints are welcomed, whether from outerspace or the PTB, none are excepted. If one is to really be well informed that person should review and make their own decision based on their own experience and perspective. 4UM gives a well informed person that opportunity.

Boonie Rat

MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-'66

Personally I always expect the minimum of anything from people paid from the public purse. They normally adopt a herd mentality which as any one who has had to sit through a meeting organized by these people will no doubt know will start at the lowest imaginable level and by the process of wallpapering the butt, buck passing, and outsourcing responsibility rapidly develops a spiral decent to the depths of inanity not often seen in the commercial world. -

boonie rat  posted on  2009-09-13   17:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Vitamin Z (#8)

You know, ten percent of people also believe in fairies and unicorns. Seen a fairy on acid and it was no joke.

I believe in fairies and unicorns. Seen a fairy on acid and it was no joke.

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-13   18:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Clitora (#14)

Seen a fairy on acid and it was no joke.

Was it wearing boots?

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-09-14   9:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#15)

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-09-14   9:25:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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