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Title: Film of DC rally (How many does it look like to you?)
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Published: Sep 14, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-09-14 12:37:53 by christine
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#31. To: christine (#0)
For those who missed it - CSPAN Channel 1 feed coming from the massive 9/12 Rally in Washington D.C. Tune in now:
www.republicmedia.tv (video) The march Saturday was called "Taxpayer March on Washington" and was organized by FreedomWorks Foundation and a coalition of other groups such as The National Taxpayers Union and The Teaparty Patriots. I think your assumption that every attendee there was a republican (McCain voter) and that the "RP Revolution has been hijacked by the forces of evil" is premature. Also, how do you know that it wasn't Ron Paul's decision to be in Alvin, Texas this weekend rather than at the DC rally?
FreedomWorks- you mean the organization led by Dick Armey, Republican, and whose board is made of people like Steve Forbes. The National Taxpayers Union-a legit grassroots organization tea party patriots- a website that is run by anonymous people, but who are "partned" with Michelle Malkin and Red State.com Just look at websites like Free Republic and libertypost. All the statist republicans there are teabaggers. Campaign for Liberty hasn't been hijacked its being ignored. These teabaggers got Glen Beck to listen to.
So what do you suggest? That Obama gets his way without a fight? Did you ever think that we need allies in this fight and that the enemy of my enemy is my friend? As for me, I'll take a victory anyway I can get one.
So what do you suggest? That Obama gets his way without a fight? What kind of retarded logic would make you conclude that from me showing the teabaggers are being led by republicans and not Paul supporters? Not when the enemy of your enemy is also your enemy. If you think people like Army, or Beck actually want to change anything you are mistaken. Its political theater. Electing republicans instead of democrats isn't victory any way you frame it.
Agreed, but stopping Obama should be priority #1 If it takes guys like Beck or Armey to get the troops out, I'll take it and be grateful for their efforts. The last time I checked, RON PAUL IS A REPUBLICAN
How does anyone on this forum know what RP thinks about that gathering Saturday? Maybe I have this wrong but his message to me has always been to change the Republican party from within. That's the least favorite method of change for me, but it's obvious that the march wasn't aroused or mobilized by the politics of a Dick Armey or any other establishment R. Armey, et al, might be trying to plant their flag in front of the parade, but IMO the true leadership hasn't yet bubbled up.
agreed. is it the detractors contention then that none of these people should have shown up to this event or any of the townhall/tea parties all over the country? events, btw, where R politicians get confronted and boo'ed. regarding Ron Paul, why hasn't he commented one way or the other? and, let me remind folks that he's doing an event with Michelle Bachmann.
An establishment republican. Who until Obama got elected didn't give a shit about liberty. You are proving my point.
#78. To: Rhino369 (#76)
Not really. Maybe WE'RE the ones converting people. It happens. Individuals change their minds when presented with reason. Without our movement, Bachmann may have stayed the same as she was. Our views are still political suicide, to an insider, so her taking them up isn't quite as pat as you'd think.
then why is Ron Paul doing an event with her?
An establishment republican. Who until Obama got elected didn't give a shit about liberty. You are proving my point. Sad but true. Bachmann began mouthing all the right phrases along with the rest who have no history as supporters of liberty, rolling back big govt, restoring that which was taken through signing statements and AG opinions, etc. Now, if Ron Paul can make her a true believer, then great. But, unless she's willing to abandon the main party and join Paul and his caucus (thereby alienating leadership which is always precarious especially for a newbie) then she won't excite me. To her credit the Minn Republican Caucus removed Bachmann from her leadership position. "Bachmann cited "philosophical differences" with (Minn Republican Senator and minority leader) Dick Day as the reason for her ouster." So, Bachmann may in fact have the right stuff and it's just too soon to say if she's bought and paid for. It's not too soon to note that even as a state rep she was eligible to join The Republican Liberty Caucus but, as far as I know she still hasn't signed up.
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#35. To: robnoel (#31)
#42. To: christine (#35)
FreedomWorks Foundation and a coalition of other groups such as The National Taxpayers Union and The Teaparty Patriots.
and that the "RP Revolution has been hijacked by the forces of evil" is premature.
#43. To: Rhino369 (#42)
FreedomWorks- you mean the organization led by Dick Armey, Republican, and whose board is made of people like Steve Forbes.
#44. To: Flintlock (#43)
Did you ever think that we need allies in this fight and that the enemy of my enemy is my friend?
As for me, I'll take a victory anyway I can get one
#47. To: Rhino369 (#44)
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Electing republicans instead of democrats isn't victory any way you frame it.
What kind of retarded logic would make you conclude that from me showing the teabaggers are being led by republicans and not Paul supporters?
#51. To: Flintlock, Cynicom, all (#47)
#58. To: Jethro Tull, Rhino369, Cynicom. Flintlock, SonofLiberty, robnoel (#51)
That's the least favorite method of change for me, but it's obvious that the march wasn't aroused or mobilized by the politics of a Dick Armey or any other establishment R. Armey, et al, might be trying to plant their flag in front of the parade, but IMO the true leadership hasn't yet bubbled up.
#76. To: christine (#58)
and, let me remind folks that he's doing an event with Michelle Bachmann.
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#92. To: Rhino369 (#76)
An establishment republican.
#100. To: Rhino369, christine (#76)
and, let me remind folks that he's doing an event with Michelle Bachmann.
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