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Title: Film of DC rally (How many does it look like to you?)
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Published: Sep 14, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-09-14 12:37:53 by christine
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#1. To: christine (#0)
The Lamestream media is in the perception management business not the news business. It should come as no surprise to the critical observer of media manipulations that they would of course attempt to understate and minimize the numbers of people in attendance. Since bandwagon followers are influenced and encouraged by numbers of people holding a given viewpoint, and do not want to be seen as different from what the herd is doing, they will join a popular grassroots movement if it is seen as the popular thing to do. These are the same people who spoke admiringly, and tried to get close, to the BMOC or BGOC in skool. So, the PsyOp is to prevent that from happening. Since people are emboldened by numbers, if not principle, then the game for the media is to disparage, smear, and minimize the affect of so many people standing up against government tyranny. We couldn't actually allow the people to influence the government could we? What do you think this is? A free country?
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
At a minimum, there are 250,000k. At the high end, double that. The left can
ignore, mock and/or deny, but this is the tip of the iceberg. The nation is
finally fractured as many here hoped for. I live is the America that DEMANDS
that our selected hires reduce government, eject illegal aliens and return to
our constitutional principles. This event was non violent, but I can assure
all here violence will come as sure as the sun rises in the East. It's been
inevitable for decades. Arm up, get supplies in, and draw your family close.
Nail on head. Nothing short of massive non compliance (no one to collect tolls, repair downed power lines, truck milk and bread to local stores, etc.,) will force the arrogant "molders of public opinion" to acknowledge that something is wrong in the hinterland. Of course they'll deliberately miss the point and report that the people are demonstrating in support for more night raids, 1040 audits, federal tax increases, bailouts to Edomite banksters and grants to synagogues to install SAM missiles.....
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
I visited the rally after the march, as a spectator, hoping to maybe bump into someone I knew from years gone by. There were many, many people there both departing and arriving (both directions) when I got there at about 12:45. I spent about an hour there and walked at least a good mile or more before I headed back to my hotel on the other side of the river.
And that is exactly what the elites fear. Their entire hold over the body politic, as they suck it dry, is fear and manipulation. Their numbers are too small to actually impose their tyranny by force, at this point, so they rely on Psychiatrically devised mind control programs of various kinds. Since most of those tactics rely upon the subject not becoming aware of what is going on they have to minimize and marginalize resistance via manipulation. If their minions suddenly realized what was actually going on they would be virtually powerless over night. That is just how fast their empire of the mind can, and eventually will, fall. The battle at that point will be to hold the society together long enough to resuscitate the patient without radical surgery.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
March on Washington: How Big Was the Crowd?
#2. To: christine (#0)
#3. To: Original_Intent (#1)
So, the PsyOp is to prevent that from happening. Since people are emboldened by numbers, if not principle, then the game for the media is to disparage, smear, and minimize the affect of so many people standing up against government tyranny. We couldn't actually allow the people to influence the government could we? What do you think this is? A free country?
#4. To: christine (#0)
#5. To: HOUNDDAWG (#3)
Nothing short of massive non compliance (no one to collect tolls, repair downed power lines, truck milk and bread to local stores, etc.,) will force the arrogant "molders of public opinion" to acknowledge that something is wrong in the hinterland.
#6. To: christine (#0)
 | "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C. S. Lewis |
#7. To: HOUNDDAWG, christine (#3)
Then maybe, just maybe, that should be the next step, especially if they ramrod through this communism behind closed doors like they're sniveling about even as I type this? You know, all of the producers, taking a "strike week" vacation, all at one time? That's another weapon we have on our side. By and large, we're the productive class. If a bunch of whiny socialists threaten to strike, nobody notices. If the producers of the world flip the bird and sit at home a week, the ship of state comes to a screeching halt. Something to consider. I'm thinking this belongs under "I need to find a way to organize this". :)
Nothing short of massive non compliance (no one to collect tolls, repair downed power lines, truck milk and bread to local stores, etc.,) will force the arrogant "molders of public opinion" to acknowledge that something is wrong in the hinterland.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
#8. To: Original_Intent (#5)
Exactly. People are able to break and ride horses simply because horses don't know their own strength relative to ours. I've posted repeatedly that at the height of their "campaign of tax terror" the IRS/DOJ brought no more than 50 tax trials to fruition each year nationwide, or about one per state. And, yet the fear mongers come on websites like this one and say "BOOGA BOOGA! Pay YOUR taxes or the IRS will throw ya in jail!" And, if the govt tried a Draconian crackdown then jurors (some of who are tax cheats which is why the IRS needs more computers and agents according to them!) would go rogue even more than they do now, and just as with Prohibition it would be the end of "The Law That Never Was!" Right now they can still sift out a pool of 22 perspective jurors who are obvious state worshipers in large metro areas about once a year. You know, people who are beholden to the govt and who consume more taxes than they ever paid. But, it's getting increasingly more difficult to impanel juries for any reason these days. And, if the IRS/DOJ tried to realize their dream of tax tyranny they'd soon be forced to seat knowledgeable (i.e. Fully Informed) people on juries. And that would be the death knell for the G_d-cursed Federal Reserve Tribute Tax.
And that is exactly what the elites fear. Their entire hold over the body politic, as they suck it dry, is fear and manipulation. Their numbers are too small to actually impose their tyranny by force, at this point, so they rely on Psychiatrically devised mind control programs of various kinds. Since most of those tactics rely upon the subject not becoming aware of what is going on they have to minimize and marginalize resistance via manipulation. If their minions suddenly realized what was actually going on they would be virtually powerless over night. That is just how fast their empire of the mind can, and eventually will, fall. The battle at that point will be to hold the society together long enough to resuscitate the patient without radical surgery.
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
Right you are Jethro. I side with you on this one. TPTB outta fear of losing their control over us will fire the first shot. They are working overtime to send the next disaster our way. They have all the tanks, the military, and the nukes and germ warfare weapons. They have proved to us that they will use them against us as they did on 9-11-2001. Their taking away our freedoms, our money, and voiding our Constitution incrementally is a way for them to measure our resolve. We are just about at the boiling point. It's not a matter of if, but when.
This event was non violent, but I can assure all here violence will come as sure as the sun rises in the East. It's been inevitable for decades. Arm up, get supplies in, and draw your family close.
#10. To: SonOfLiberty (#7)
I read a great article yesterday that said that DEM REPs are finally sweating re-election and they won't dare vote for it. Every town hall meeting in every state ends up as a torches & tarpots parade, and because there's nothing left to give away to seniors (after Bush's Medicare prescription drug perk-what's left but a million bux worth of free stem cells treatments per senior?) the reps know that they could be doing heavy lifting in the rat race with the rest of us after the next election. Any attempt to take from seniors and share with the rest of America will result in failed incumbencies, so the house may soon be trapped in a snare of its own design! Even if they don't vote for ObamaCare, they may get booted just because people don't like the arrogance that congress has repeatedly displayed of late. It's up to us to start as many rumors as we can that will upset seniors. You know, when you have the attention of some oldsters say things like, "I heard Obama wants to include inner city children in social security and send them half a pension check each month!" Let the seniors figure out where that half of a check will come from with no help from you! ;) HAH!
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
#11. To: HOUNDDAWG (#10)
That's cruel. Mean. Downright evil. I like it.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
#12. To: sourcery, christine, LACOUMO. all (#6)
After looking at this time lapse camera (3.5 hours) I revise my estimate. There is close to one million people there.
#13. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
It's probably only one hundred of Ron Paul's supporters going 'round and 'round the same way they skewed the internet polls in his favor after all the presidential debates! "Okay guys, spread out and try to look more numerous! Take two steps forward and one step back and you'll be photographed in three places two seconds apart!'
After looking at this time lapse camera (3.5 hours) I revise my estimate. There is close to one million people there.
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
#14. To: christine (#0)
Honestly, unless there is a third party movement from this, if it is called "The Tea Party", or what ever, I'm not paying much attention. The talking heads on the radio are pushing the answer to be the Republican Party.
Mark
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
#15. To: HOUNDDAWG (#13)
LOLOLOLOL A continuous loop of 100 RP supporters :P
#16. To: Kamala (#14)
Look at the bright side Mark. We need the system to collapse and that has begun. The economy is a joke, and there are now at least 2 or 3 versions of America, so the balkanization process has begun. Yes, I'd love a 3rd party to evolve, and if you fear the Rs getting out in front of this, don't fret. If they do it will peter out quicker than poorly dosed Viagra addled hard on.
#17. To: LACUMO (#9)
Their taking away our freedoms --- Is English your first language?
Their taking away our freedoms
#18. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
... yes, a cruel joke.
The economy is a joke
#19. To: Kamala (#14)
Honestly, if it turns into a third party movement, I'll stop paying attention. Get this: It is mathematically impossible for a third party to be viable in a winner-take-all election system, such as the one we have in the US. Got that? 2 + 2 = 4, and third parties cannot be viable. Both statements are true with the same level of strength and certainty. Yes, I know. The Republican Party displaced the Whig party. The operative word, however, is replaced. That's not just an accident of history. It was mathematically required. The question, then, is what are the chances of a new party replacing one of the existing ones? A rough estimate would have to be once every 235 years, based on US history. Not good odds. It's much more likely that a determined group of activists might be able to take over an existing party from within. That's happened many times in US history.
Honestly, unless there is a third party movement from this, if it is called "The Tea Party", or what ever, I'm not paying much attention.
| "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C. S. Lewis |
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
Then at the same time, citizens need to withdraw and quit participating in the fraud of the economy and the political system.
We need the system to collapse and that has begun....
Mark
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
#21. To: sourcery (#19)
You are probably right about replacing a party, but change from within at this point, I don't think will happen.
It's much more likely that a determined group of activists might be able to take over an existing party from within. That's happened many times in US history.....
Mark
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
#22. To: Kamala (#20)
I keep thinking of all the Gerald Celente 'tubes and interviews I've listened to over the past year. He has been dead on and I suspect people will begin to suspend participation. Saturday was an enormous step toward that possibility.
#23. To: christine (#0)
Look at all those racists. Obummer should have dropped napalm on them to put them in their place. 
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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#24. To: sourcery, Kamala, all (#19)
That is pretty much true. The laws regulating who and how someone gets on the ballot have been rigged in favor of the existing Republicrat Party. If you are not a Republicrat the hurdles are so high that it is virtually impossible for a 3rd Party Candidate to get on enough ballots to win - even if 100% voted for it.
Get this: It is mathematically impossible for a third party to be viable in a winner-take-all election system, such as the one we have in the US. Got that? 2 + 2 = 4, and third parties cannot be viable.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
#25. To: sourcery (#19)
Yes, I know. The Republican Party displaced the Whig party. The operative word, however, is replaced. That's not just an accident of history. It was mathematically required. The question, then, is what are the chances of a new party replacing one of the existing ones? A rough estimate would have to be once every 235 years, based on US history. Not good odds. It's much more likely that a determined group of activists might be able to take over an existing party from within. That's happened many times in US history. This is why Ron Paul decided to stay in the Republican Party.
Honestly, if it turns into a third party movement, I'll stop paying attention. Get this: It is mathematically impossible for a third party to be viable in a winner-take-all election system, such as the one we have in the US. Got that? 2 + 2 = 4, and third parties cannot be viable. Both statements are true with the same level of strength and certainty.
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#22)
There are a few ways. Quit spending and buying. Quit borrowing and applying for credit. Stop paying debts. File foreclosures or bankruptcy. General strike. I think the most devastating would be spending and credit. Most citizens can participate. The entire system depends on ever expanding debt and credit, without this, it crumbles.
Mark
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
#27. To: Kamala (#26)
I think the most devastating would be spending and credit. Most citizens can participate. The entire system depends on ever expanding debt and credit, without this, it crumbles. If you think the "System" crumbling would result in more liberty you are smoking some fine weed my friend. If conservatives called a "general strike" and the economy fell apart, you'd see a socialist dictator in place in a month. American's can't go a week without TV, do you think they'll stand for grocery stores running out of food? Obama would say the conservatives are trying to starve them, and will promise "Change" and take control forever. History shows time and time again, that societies that crumble will follow a strong man who puts food on the table. Just look at American history, the single time a significant number of Americans had to worry about starving, during the great depression, America made FDR President for life.
Quit spending and buying. Quit borrowing and applying for credit. Stop paying debts. File foreclosures or bankruptcy. General strike.
#28. To: Rhino369 (#27)
History shows time and time again, that societies that crumble will follow a strong man who puts food on the table. LOL. Obama a "strong man" to take control forever? Now that's what I call a funny conspiracy theory...
Obama would say the conservatives are trying to starve them, and will promise "Change" and take control forever.
#29. To: HOUNDDAWG (#3)
You are insane. Stopping society in this way so that you and others can "protest" disrupting people's lives is the dumbest idea I have heard today. If you have a problem, take it to your leaders. Be a man for once in your life and step up.
Nothing short of massive non compliance (no one to collect tolls, repair downed power lines, truck milk and bread to local stores, etc.,) will force the arrogant "molders of public opinion" to acknowledge that something is wrong in the hinterland.
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
#30. To: Rhino369, Kamala, HOUNDDAWG (#27)
On principal alone this is the dumbest Idea I have ever heard over and over again from flat earth libertarian mouth breathers.
If you think the "System" crumbling would result in more liberty you are smoking some fine weed my friend.
http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ On freedom4um.com, Alex Jones is more dangerous than Henry Kissinger. May you live in interesting times.
#31. To: christine (#0)
For those who missed it - CSPAN Channel 1 feed coming from the massive 9/12 Rally in Washington D.C. Tune in now: 
#32. To: sourcery (#19)
Are you committed to preserving the Union then?
Anti-racism is code for white genocide. The call of "equality," is a siren song that can only mean the destruction of all that we cherish as being human. -- Murray Rothbard It is perfectly legitimate to assume that the races are different in their cognitive abilities and in their willpower and accordingly are unequally suited for the task of setting up societies, and that the better races are characterized in particular by their special ability to strengthen social bonds. -- Ludwig von Mises
#33. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#32)
Not in any absolute sense. But I don't currently see any viable alternatives. I'd listen to any proposals that seem well-founded, plausible and implementable...
Are you committed to preserving the Union then?
| "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C. S. Lewis |
#34. To: Fred Mertz (#4)
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I visited the rally after the march, as a spectator, hoping to maybe bump into someone I knew from years gone by.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
#35. To: robnoel (#31)
www.republicmedia.tv (video) The march Saturday was called "Taxpayer March on Washington" and was organized by FreedomWorks Foundation and a coalition of other groups such as The National Taxpayers Union and The Teaparty Patriots. I think your assumption that every attendee there was a republican (McCain voter) and that the "RP Revolution has been hijacked by the forces of evil" is premature. Also, how do you know that it wasn't Ron Paul's decision to be in Alvin, Texas this weekend rather than at the DC rally?
#36. To: Original_Intent (#1)
Good comment.
So, the PsyOp is to prevent that from happening. Since people are emboldened by numbers, if not principle, then the game for the media is to disparage, smear, and minimize the affect of so many people standing up against government tyranny.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
#37. To: sourcery (#33)
Good. :) Seems to me the claim is only true assuming Union. There are many such winner-take-all games at different levels in the Union, and I think a local or regional third party could be successful, locally or regionally replacing one of the two primary parties. Especially secessionist.
Anti-racism is code for white genocide. The call of "equality," is a siren song that can only mean the destruction of all that we cherish as being human. -- Murray Rothbard It is perfectly legitimate to assume that the races are different in their cognitive abilities and in their willpower and accordingly are unequally suited for the task of setting up societies, and that the better races are characterized in particular by their special ability to strengthen social bonds. -- Ludwig von Mises
#38. To: Jethro Tull, christine (#2)
At a minimum, there are 250,000k. At the high end, double that. The left can ignore, mock and/or deny, but this is the tip of the iceberg.
#39. To: Jethro Tull, original_intent, christine (#2)
I'd say there were at least few dozen in that vid. ;-) one thing comes to mind though,. so 2 million marched. and what the hell has changed from it? i dont know if 'marching' is the answer? other than to build momentum and show the puppetmasters what is happening.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
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#40. To: sourcery (#6)
Beautiful.
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. C. S. Lewis
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
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