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Title: Molten Metal at Ground Zero
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Published: Sep 16, 2009
Author: YouTube
Post Date: 2009-09-16 20:28:39 by Turtle
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Views: 3990
Comments: 43


Poster Comment:

Of course, the answer to this is that the fireman are wearing clothing -- and especially boots -- that can handle 2000 degree molten metal.

On the other hand, notice the guy in the middle. His right foot is in the "molten metal"!

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#1. To: Turtle, *9-11* (#0)

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"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   20:50:13 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: wudidiz (#1)

It cracks me up you cannot tell a Photoshopped picture.

“No amount of reason, evidence, logic or rational argument will ever convince the true believer otherwise.”

Turtle  posted on  2009-09-16   20:52:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Turtle (#2)

“No amount of reason, evidence, logic or rational argument will ever convince the true believer of the Official Conspiracy Fairy Tale® otherwise.”


Let me get this straight.

Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo

Critter  posted on  2009-09-16   20:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Turtle (#2)

It cracks me up you cannot tell a Photoshopped picture.

You should be banned for being such an idiot.

And then taken out back behind your outhouse and disposed of properly by girl scouts.

A fitting end to a lame ass existence with, ROFL, pugs. You have an obsession with Pugs. Fugliest dogs on the planet.

By the way, I saw molten metal on tv. Is the mainstream media lying?

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ " The world is now a Gulag Archipelago, run by the ruthless minions of the Rockefeller-Rothschild conglomerate. Its gods are money and power; its only enemy is the advocate of liberty. "- Eustace Mullins, Murder by Injection, 1988, p. 188

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-16   20:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Critter (#3)

“No amount of reason, evidence, logic or rational argument will ever convince the true believer of the Official Conspiracy Fairy Tale® otherwise.”

Mission Impossible.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-09-16   20:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Clitora, Turtle, christine, all (#4) (Edited)

You should be banned for being such an idiot.

LMAO!

christine: "Sorry Turtle, we're gonna have to let you go. You're just too naive, gullible and well... you're stupid."

Turtle: "But, but.... where am I gonna post my pug videos?"


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   21:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TwentyTwelve, Critter (#5)

The picture of "molten metal" pouring from the jaws is Photoshopped. Look it up.

Suffering from cognitive dissonance from having you fantasy bubbles burst?

“No amount of reason, evidence, logic or rational argument will ever convince the true believer otherwise.”

Turtle  posted on  2009-09-16   21:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: wudidiz (#6)

Turtle: "But, but.... where am I gonna post my pug videos?"

On youtube, where the rest of the children are playing.

http://kaygriggs.blogspot.com/ " The world is now a Gulag Archipelago, run by the ruthless minions of the Rockefeller-Rothschild conglomerate. Its gods are money and power; its only enemy is the advocate of liberty. "- Eustace Mullins, Murder by Injection, 1988, p. 188

Clitora  posted on  2009-09-16   21:04:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Turtle (#7)


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   21:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

...unless there was an undiscovered volcano beneath the twin towers.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   21:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: wudidiz (#9)

Still trying to ignore the fact you're so stupid you fell for a Photoshopped picture?

“No amount of reason, evidence, logic or rational argument will ever convince the true believer otherwise.”

Turtle  posted on  2009-09-16   21:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Turtle (#11)

Still trying to ignore the fact you're so stupid you fell for a Photoshopped picture?

What makes you think it was photoshopped?

Workers Reported Molten Metal in Ground Zero Rubble


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   21:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Turtle, All (#12)

Note the large expanding mushroom cloud that pushes upwards and outwards, even blooming to the right. To the right in this video is west, and that would be against the wind. There is but one explanation for a cloud that behaves this way, and that is an extraordinary heat energy input.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   21:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All (#13)

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All that concrete being pulverized.... All that debris being ejected horizontally.... It's almost as though they used some sort of explosive device. Is that possible?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   21:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: wudidiz (#14)

It's almost as though they used some sort of explosive device.

Well, they say it would have taken too long and would have required tons of explosives, and cutting thousands of columns in key locations to take it down with (un)controlled demolition.

But they also say that cutting a few random columns and starting a fire can do the trick just nicely. So I don't know what to think. It's either very difficult or simple as pie.


Let me get this straight.

Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo

Critter  posted on  2009-09-16   21:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Turtle, Critter, all (#11)

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9/11 Truth: Ground Zero Iron Workers Describe WTC Steel Anomalies


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   21:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: wudidiz, turdle (#12)

Turdle could do better than "Still trying to ignore the fact you're so stupid you fell for a Photoshopped picture?" which is just lame. Why doesn't he take the trouble to read a referenced piece like the one wudidiz posted and make some kind of thoughtful response grounded in substance?

Workers Reported Molten Metal in Ground Zero Rubble

References

1. Fire Power: It Took Three Lawyers to Stop the Destruction of CDI Inc., The Daily Record, 10/7/00
2. D-Day: NY Sanitation Workers' Challenge of a Lifetime, WasteAge.com, 4/1/02 [cached]
3. Handheld app eased recovery tasks, GCN.com, 9/11/02 [cached]
4. Recovery worker reflects on months spent at Ground Zero, Messenger- Inquirer.com, 6/29/02 [cached]
5. The Chaplain's Tale, RecordOnline.com, [cached]
6. Mobilizing Public Health, Johns Hopkins Public Health Magazine, [cached]
7. The scene at Ground Zero, NEHA.org, [cached]
8. WTC a Structural Success, SEAU News, , page 3 9. Ground Zero, 12/01 [cached]
10. American Ground, , page 32
11. Unflinching Look Among the Ruins, NYPost.com, 3/3/04

I'll tell you why he never addresses issues: Turdle is just to damned lazy. He wouldn't lift a finger to make a cogent argument, and probably wouldn't know one if he saw one.

Perversely, he does provide the service of keeping some issues front and center in a blithering sort of way.

benighted numbtards
the walking dead
no half-truths disambiguated
all clocks will be cleaned

randge  posted on  2009-09-16   21:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: wudidiz (#16) (Edited)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-09-16   21:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Critter, all (#15)

It's almost as though they used some sort of explosive device.

Well, they say it would have taken too long and would have required tons of explosives, and cutting thousands of columns in key locations to take it down with (un)controlled demolition.

But they also say that cutting a few random columns and starting a fire can do the trick just nicely. So I don't know what to think. It's either very difficult or simple as pie.

Writings of a Finnish Military Expert on 9/11

Ground Zero - The Nuclear Demolition Of The World Trade Center

wudidiz to all:

What else would cause molten steel for weeks after 9/11?

What else would cause steel to vaporize?

What else would do this to steel and concrete?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   21:57:31 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: randge, TwentyTwelve, Critter, all, *9-11* (#17)

Thank you.

Please see #16.

It's not available on youtube.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   22:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: wudidiz (#20)

It messes with my computer at the moment. Some kind of conflict with other stuff I have running I think. Once the video starts everything else freezes.


Let me get this straight.

Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo

Critter  posted on  2009-09-16   22:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Critter (#21)

NSA

;-)


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   22:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: wudidiz (#22)

Nah, windoze xp. lol


Let me get this straight.

Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo

Critter  posted on  2009-09-16   22:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: wudidiz (#22)

I'll watch it after I get KO'd in this poker tournament. Or after I win it, whichever comes first.


Let me get this straight.

Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo

Critter  posted on  2009-09-16   22:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Critter (#23)

Maybe if you shut everything else down and try this link:

www.livevideo.com/video/e...h-ground-zero-iron-w.aspx


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   22:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Critter (#24)

Maybe if you win you can get a better computer. One of those dual core ones.

That's what I want.

Or one of those quad core with 4 gigs of RAM and a Terabyte harddrive.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   22:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wudidiz (#26)

Maybe if you win you can get a better computer.

I sure could use one. This one is 5 or 6 years old now.

That and a new plow for my truck.


Let me get this straight.

Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo

Critter  posted on  2009-09-16   22:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Critter (#27)

I just got a new one a couple of weeks ago.

A new used one for $120.

2.2 ghz processor, 776 mb Ram and 60 gig hard drive.

My last one was a 700 mhz processor, 448 mb Ram and a 20 and 40 gig hard drive.

The new one plays videos way better and loads pages way quicker.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   22:29:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Turtle (#0)

http://www.ae911truth.net/store/product_info.php? cPath=27&products_id=107&osCsid=fa019d359e83e0ef11c6ec94c000a408 Nanothermite: What in the World is High-Tech Explosive Material Doing in the Dust Clouds...

ratcat  posted on  2009-09-16   22:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: ratcat, Turtle (#29)

www.ae911truth.org/info/51

I doubt Turtle will read it anyway.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-16   22:56:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: wudidiz (#26)

KO'd. Heck, I outlasted 4000 players though. :)


Let me get this straight.

Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo

Critter  posted on  2009-09-16   23:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: wudidiz (#28) (Edited)

keep an eye open at geeks.com I picked up an HP8200 with dual 3.2 gig xeon processors 4 gigs ram 320 gig HD (added a 1TB HD as a secondary) I run dual monitors on all my systems so I choose the quadro 1400 dual dvi GPU unit. with the added hard drive it was under five hundred. some where around here I've got a 265m 9600GT NVidia GPU to replace the 128m quadro 1400.


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2009-09-16   23:10:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: wudidiz (#19)

That concrete you see there with the rebar? I believe that is a portion of the "lightweight concrete floor" they like to talk about.


Let me get this straight.

Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo

Critter  posted on  2009-09-16   23:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: randge, Turtle (#17)

Why doesn't he take the trouble to read a referenced piece like the one wudidiz posted and make some kind of thoughtful response grounded in substance?

yeah, Turtle, why don't you?

christine  posted on  2009-09-16   23:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: wudidiz (#16)

"as time went by, you realized everything was pulverized. there were no desks, there were no phones, there was no computer screens, no laptops......it was just beyond comprehension."

christine  posted on  2009-09-16   23:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: wudidiz, Turtle (#30)

what is mass-transit on turtle island?


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2009-09-16   23:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Turtle (#2)

i suppose all the videos were photoshopped too. heck, maybe the testimonies of the firemen who were there were as well!

christine  posted on  2009-09-16   23:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#37)

heck, maybe the testimonies of the firemen who were there were as well!

No, they just over dubbed those. :p


Let me get this straight.

Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo

Critter  posted on  2009-09-16   23:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Critter, christine (#38)

heck, maybe the testimonies of the firemen who were there were as well!

No, they just over dubbed those. :p

..or lost them.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-09-17   1:54:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: randge, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, Turdle, all (#17)

Turdle could do better than "Still trying to ignore the fact you're so stupid you fell for a Photoshopped picture?" which is just lame. Why doesn't he take the trouble to read a referenced piece like the one wudidiz posted and make some kind of thoughtful response grounded in substance?

That would require him to think outside of his conditioning and that hurts too much.

Of course one could easily ask: Was the photoshopped image a planted piece of disinformation to create a debunking reference? Kind of like the "authoritative" piece of Strawman reasoning, and dishonest imagery , that was printed in Popular Mechanics? (They used a flipped image of WTC 6, which suffered very extensive fired damage but did not collapse, and misrepresented the WTC 6 photos as fires in WTC 7 which did collapse. Hint: the fires in WTC 7 were much smaller than those in WTC 6 which did not collapse.)

"Gosh, the goobermunt wouldn't do that, create a disinformation video, would they Wally?" "Uh, grow up Beav."

So, we have multiple eyewitness reports and videos on one side, and one possibly photoshopped disinfo video on the other. Gee, what she believe? Turdle or the evidence?

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-09-17   3:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Original_Intent (#40)

You always post good stuff. Thanks for the instructive tidbit on Popular Mechanics.

They are clever "mechanics" when it comes to facts, ain't they?

benighted numbtards
the walking dead
no half-truths disambiguated
all clocks will be cleaned

randge  posted on  2009-09-17   6:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: randge, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, Turdle, all (#41) (Edited)

Thanks for the instructive tidbit on Popular Mechanics.

You're welcome. I forget who first uncovered that whopper, but it was a cute one. Flip an image of WTC 6 upside down, and then misrepresent it as "7" and then claim that it shows that the fires were just hellacious. Of course that they had to do that to prop up the "WTC 7" collapsed from fires story shows just how weak the cover story was and how inadequate the evidence was to try and support it. It is also embarassing to the Official Conspiracy Theory® to even note that WTC 6 suffered much more extensive fire damage than WTC 7 given the heavy demolition they had to do on "6", which just did not want to come down, to "pull it" down later.

They are clever "mechanics" when it comes to facts, ain't they?

Yes and no. For the gullible who take the cover legends at face value, and do not compare the Official Fairy Tale® against the other verifiable evidence, it works, but in the age of the Internet with thousands of people pouring over the accounts and evidence it gets rather difficult for them. Every time the elite criminals try the big lie they get caught, and every time they get caught that lessens the weight of the next lie which costs them a few more sheeple as more wake up to reality. Turdle of course being the massive jeenyus that he is is immune to the allure of logic and facts and so is thoroughly secure in his invincible ignorance.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-09-17   12:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Original_Intent, randge, ratcat, christine, Critter, TwentyTwelve, Horse, IRTorqued, all, *9-11* (#42)

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"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-09-17   14:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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