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Title: Piggy flu news: Penn State has 20(+) players "very sick" *after* having taken the shot
Source: [None]
URL Source: [None]
Published: Sep 19, 2009
Author: me
Post Date: 2009-09-19 08:28:38 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 3558
Comments: 74

So there you have it, direct from the wide world of sports; take the shot and go down sick. When I found out last night I immediately took Temple with 30 points, and I also bet $50 on the under since it looks like the water boy will be the starting quarterback and Temple is one step above high school level. These are young, healthy kids who became sick after after testing a vaccine for our paranoid, psychotic government. I just hit the Immune Assist, D3, and camu-camu. I fear no bug!

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#34. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

The team I'm concerned about is the Texas Longhorns.

After having seen the segment at halftime a couple of weeks ago of Coach Mack Brown going over to Iraq to "worship" the troops at Camp Granada or wherever, I have very little hope he will resist the authoritarian mindset to order mass inoculations for his team. This may well have already happened.

Mack, IMO, is not the type who would object. He would want his team to be like the "troops," who are subjected to ANY and EVERY inoculation known to man before deployments.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-09-19   10:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: FormerLurker, Jethro Tull, All (#29)

In summary, I would still take Sambucol before I took any toxic brew in my arm or swallowed Tamiflu which has been known to cause people to commit suicide.

Hey, I'm not looking for an argument and I wouldn't take the shot or Tamiflu. My point is simply that there is conflicting information on the appropriateness of Sambucol for Swine Flu.

IMO there are other OTC remedies that are better suited to combat the H5N1 Avian Flu virus.

Avian Flu Potential Therapies
www.med-owl.com/herbal-an...x.php?page=H5N1+Avian+Flu

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole a bike and asked him to forgive me.

Flintlock  posted on  2009-09-19   10:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Sam Houston (#34)

Thanks for that disturbing information.

Wake up, Mack!

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-09-19   10:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Sam Houston (#34)

He would want his team to be like the "troops," who are subjected to ANY and EVERY inoculation known to man before deployments.

agreed. i would bet that there isn't a coach out there at any level who isn't the same.

christine  posted on  2009-09-19   10:59:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Eric Stratton (#31)

Sunscre en causes cancer

christine  posted on  2009-09-19   11:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

When I found out last night I immediately took Temple with 30 points, and I also bet $50 on the under since it looks like the water boy will be the starting quarterback and Temple is one step above high school level.

fantasynews.cbssports.com/more/story/12207907

Favorable matchup: Penn State vs. Temple. This game wasn't even close in 2008. Penn State used a 31-point second quarter to rout the Owls, 45-3. Penn State rolled up 308 rushing yards and QB Daryll Clark didn't even need to play the whole game. Temple lost to a FCS school in Week 1 (Villanova), so they are already headed in the wrong direction.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-09-19   11:03:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#2)

Thanks for the ping.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-09-19   11:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FormerLurker (#23)

the point is, the players are sick from having received the vaccine. they most likely would not have gotten the flu otherwise.

christine  posted on  2009-09-19   11:05:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Flintlock (#35) (Edited)

Hey, I'm not looking for an argument and I wouldn't take the shot or Tamiflu. My point is simply that there is conflicting information on the appropriateness of Sambucol for Swine Flu.

IMO there are other OTC remedies that are better suited to combat the H5N1 Avian Flu virus.

The source you gave did not consider the action of elderberry extract in terms of disarming the viral spikes which is what allows the virus to invade a healthy cell in the first place. That is a huge oversight on the part of that author, and makes his analysis less than accurate.

He also didn't mention the fact that it contains anthocyanins which counteract the inflammatory effects of the cytokines which he appears to be so concerned about. He neglects the fact that TNF is just one of the many cytokines produced, and that the others actually trigger Lymphocytes, the majority of which are known as Natural Killer Cells (NK) as they kill tumors and cells which are infected with viruses, as well as T cells and B cells, which are a type of Lymphocyte that trigger and coordinate antibody production against pathogens such as viruses and harmful bacteria...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-09-19   11:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine (#41)

the point is, the players are sick from having received the vaccine. they most likely would not have gotten the flu otherwise.

I'm still trying to find a link stating that they have in fact taken a vaccine, whether it be the "seasonal flu" vaccine or H1N1. From what I've found so far, they are still waiting for the H1N1 vaccine to be available.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-09-19   11:07:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Jethro Tull, ALL (#0)

www.timesleader.com/news/...s_before_Temple_game.html

Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:08 am

Posted: 7:31 AM

Updated: 7:45 AM

Illness hits Lions before Temple game

By Derek Levarse dlevarse@timesleader.com Sports Reporter

Penn State has had little trouble with Temple in the past three years. Outside forces could make the fourth game much trickier.

An unidentified illness has swept through the Nittany Lions' locker room this week and disrupted practice leading up to today's game against the Owls, according to defensive coordinator Tom Bradley.

"We've had a bunch of kids sick this week, we've had as many as 15," Bradley said Friday on a weekly segment with ESPN Radio 1250 in Pittsburgh. "So we're just being extra careful and cautious. We had about 18 guys miss practice (Thursday) from whatever kind of flu it is. And I know our doctors are on top of it, just trying to be really cautious."

As of Friday night, it was unclear if any players would be held out for the Temple game as a result of the bug.

With recent global concerns over the spread of the H1N1 virus -- also known as swine flu -- sports teams across the country have taken precautionary measures

Bradley said Penn State coaches and players received basic flu shots last Sunday, especially after reports of other major college teams being severely affected.

Last week, both Wisconsin and Mississippi had a combined 40 players forced off the field because of swine flu symptoms.

Georgia, Washington State, Duke and Tulane have also been hit by the bug in the first month of the season.

The fear isn't as much about players playing or practicing while sick, but spreading the ailment to others.

"It scares us to death," Texas coach Mack Brown told The Associated Press.

Bradley said none of the Penn State cases have been identified as swine flu, but under-the-weather players have been held out as a precaution.

"Some it's been a couple days, some a day, but the doctors are just not sure what it is yet, so they're being so cautious and just getting them out and getting them away from everybody rather than risk that it may be (swine flu)," Bradley said. "Our doctors are working very hard this week."

For updates on how the illness is affecting the Lions, including any players being held out of the Temple game, visit The Times Leader PSU Blog for breaking news from Beaver Stadium as kickoff approaches.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-09-19   11:10:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: TwentyTwelve (#44)

Good catch - thanks.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-09-19   11:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: TwentyTwelve, Jethro Tull, ALL (#44)

Bradley said Penn State coaches and players received basic flu shots last Sunday,

So there we have it, they took the "seasonal" shot. As I've said in the past, THAT shot is harmful in itself and totally ineffective.

I can just imagine what the super duper untested H1N1 shot will be like...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-09-19   11:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Former_Lurker, Christine (#44)

"Bradley said Penn State coaches and players received basic flu shots last Sunday, especially after reports of other major college teams being severely affected.

Last week, both Wisconsin and Mississippi had a combined 40 players forced off the field because of swine flu symptoms."

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-09-19   11:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: christine (#38)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-09-19   11:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: christine (#41)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-09-19   11:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: All (#49)

Just in

-Entire team got flu shots last Sunday

-doctors not sure what it is yet

-Symptoms of flu began to appear Tuesday

-the entire team didn't practice Thursday or Friday

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-19   11:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: FormerLurker (#46)

Just got it FL - thanks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-19   11:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Esso, Jethro Tull (#7)

I know everyone is having fun here but why am I not seeing any articles to support what you guys are saying?

Articles, please.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-09-19   11:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: christine (#22)

5k IU caps -- recommended dosage for winter 20k a day

Dr. David Williams recommends 50,000 IU a day for 3 days during a flu bout.

http://www.drdavidwilliams.com/default.aspx?Panelcode=BN000546&Listcode=128876&gclid=CLLPnsKG_pwCFQRM5QodJCjCbw

formerly GJones.

InsideJob  posted on  2009-09-19   12:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: TooConservative (#52)

See #44 for the details.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-09-19   12:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: InsideJob (#53)

my guy has us on 50IU once a week. apparently latest research shows a megadose like that is most effective. however, i know someone who's tried this and he feels better doing the daily 10k to 20IU, but that's good to know if one actually does contract the flu.

christine  posted on  2009-09-19   12:11:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Lod (#54)

In #44, I see they got the seasonal flu shot. And they are reporting swine flu-like symptoms (which are identical to regular flu symptoms BTW).

Never mind. Carry on.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-09-19   12:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: TooConservative, Jethro Tull, football fans here (#56)

Has the Flu Bowl kicked off yet?

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-09-19   15:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Lod (#57)

LOL. Apparently, the moment of doom is not quite here yet. But it'll happen Real Soon Now.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-09-19   16:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Lod (#57)

Flu Bowl over.

PSU 31, Temple 6.

Total vanilla offense, run, run, run.

The kids were lethargic and again, they all developed illness after the vaccine.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-19   16:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: TooConservative (#58)

From the Lame stream

Illness hits Lions before Temple game

By Derek Levarse dlevarse@timesleader.com
Sports Reporter

Penn State has had little trouble with Temple in the past three years. Outside forces could make the fourth game much trickier.

An unidentified illness has swept through the Nittany Lions' locker room this week and disrupted practice leading up to today's game against the Owls, according to defensive coordinator Tom Bradley.

"We've had a bunch of kids sick this week, we've had as many as 15," Bradley said Friday on a weekly segment with ESPN Radio 1250 in Pittsburgh. "So we're just being extra careful and cautious. We had about 18 guys miss practice (Thursday) from whatever kind of flu it is. And I know our doctors are on top of it, just trying to be really cautious."

As of Friday night, it was unclear if any players would be held out for the Temple game as a result of the bug.

With recent global concerns over the spread of the H1N1 virus -- also known as swine flu -- sports teams across the country have taken precautionary measures

Bradley said Penn State coaches and players received basic flu shots last Sunday, especially after reports of other major college teams being severely affected.

Last week, both Wisconsin and Mississippi had a combined 40 players forced off the field because of swine flu symptoms.

Georgia, Washington State, Duke and Tulane have also been hit by the bug in the first month of the season.

The fear isn't as much about players playing or practicing while sick, but spreading the ailment to others.

"It scares us to death," Texas coach Mack Brown told The Associated Press.

Bradley said none of the Penn State cases have been identified as swine flu, but under-the-weather players have been held out as a precaution.

"Some it's been a couple days, some a day, but the doctors are just not sure what it is yet, so they're being so cautious and just getting them out and getting them away from everybody rather than risk that it may be (swine flu)," Bradley said. "Our doctors are working very hard this week."

For updates on how the illness is affecting the Lions, including any players being held out of the Temple game, visit The Times Leader PSU Blog for breaking news from Beaver Stadium as kickoff approaches.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-19   16:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Lod, Jethro Tull, All (#57)

Has the Flu Bowl kicked off yet?

If your question is about Penn State and Temple's football game, it is over. Penn State won the game 31-6. It is the fourth year in a row that Temple hasn't been able to score a touchdown against the Lions.

Of the 15 "sick" players, five of them didn't play at all.

Sorry you lost your bet Jethro.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-09-19   16:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Title: Piggy flu news: Penn State has 20(+) players "very sick" *after* having taken the shot Source: [None] URL Source: [None] Published: Sep 19, 2009 Author: me

So there you have it, direct from the wide world of sports

Since you have posted no source or link then it would appear that it is direct from you.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-09-19   16:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: LACUMO (#61)

Sorry you lost your bet Jethro.

I won $100

I had Temple with +30 points ($50)

and the under at 47 points. ($50)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-19   16:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: LACUMO (#61)

My goodness.

Those scrappy Penn players rose from their vaccine-induced deathbeds and achieved a heroic victory over Temple and the swiney-flu and who knows how many other micro-organisms.

"Win one for the Gipper."

TooConservative  posted on  2009-09-19   16:42:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: TooConservative (#64)

Temple???

Thats akin to beating the Olde Folks Home.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-19   16:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Hayek Fan (#62)

Since you have posted no source or link then it would appear that it is direct from you.

Yes, you'll have to take my word for it. I heard it from multiple sources on both the local radio shows here and on the various message boards I pay to be a member of.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-19   16:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Jethro Tull (#63)

I won $100

Does the little woman know you are wandering around loose with a hundred bucks in your pocket???

Cynicom  posted on  2009-09-19   16:47:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Cynicom (#67)

Not a chance. That's my play money :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-19   16:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Jethro Tull, all (#59)

vaccine

What's the lastest "swine line".?

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-09-19   16:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Hayek Fan (#62)

sports.espn.go.com/espnra...ontext=podcast&id=444721 3

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-19   17:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: All (#70)

Go to app. 1:25 on the above link.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-19   17:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Jethro Tull (#71)

flu shots Sunday -- sick 4 days later. not difficult to deduce.

christine  posted on  2009-09-19   17:13:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: christine (#72)

And you wonder why I can't do groups :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-09-19   17:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Jethro Tull (#59)

Thanks, and good work on your wagers.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-09-19   18:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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