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Title: Positioning herself as a libertarian?
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URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/us/politics/24palin.html?_r=1
Published: Sep 23, 2009
Author: Mark McDonald
Post Date: 2009-09-23 11:13:13 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 554
Comments: 63

HONG KONG — Sarah Palin, in what was billed as her first speech overseas, spoke on Wednesday to Asian bankers, investors and fund managers.

A number of people who heard the speech in a packed hotel ballroom, which was closed to the media, said Mrs. Palin spoke from notes for 90 minutes and that she was articulate, well-prepared and even compelling.

“The speech was wide-ranging, very balanced, and she beat all expectations,” said Doug A. Coulter, head of private equity in the Asia-Pacific region for LGT Capital Partners.

“She didn’t sound at all like a far-right-wing conservative. She seemed to be positioning herself as a libertarian or a small-c conservative,” he said, adding that she mentioned both Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. “She brought up both those names.”

Mrs. Palin said she was speaking as “someone from Main Street U.S.A.,” and she touched on her concerns about oversized federal bailouts and the unsustainable American government deficit. She did not repeat her attack from last month that the Obama administration’s health care proposals would create a “death panel” that would allow federal bureaucrats to decide who is “worthy of health care.”

Cameron Sinclair, another speaker at the event, said Mrs. Palin emphasized the need for a grassroots rebirth of the Republican Party driven by party leaders outside Washington.

A number of attendees thought Mrs. Palin, the former vice presidential candidate, was using the speech to begin to broaden her foreign policy credentials before making a run for the presidency in 2012.

“She’s definitely a serious future presidential candidate, and I understand why she plays so well in middle America,” said Mr. Coulter, a Canadian.

Mrs. Palin was faulted during the campaign last year for her lack of foreign policy experience and expertise. As the governor of Alaska, she said in her own defense, she had a unique insight because “you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska” — a remark that was widely lampooned.

Accompanying Mrs. Palin to Hong Kong was Randy Scheunemann, the former foreign policy adviser to John McCain, who lost the 2008 election to President Obama.

Mrs. Palin did not take questions from the media after the speech, and there was a high degree of security and secrecy around the event. Only invited guests and a handful of employees from CLSA, the brokerage house that sponsored the event, were allowed inside the ballroom.

A CLSA spokeswoman declined to confirm a rumor that Mrs. Palin was paid $300,000 for her Hong Kong appearance.

When she resigned as governor in July, Mrs. Palin cited numerous reasons for stepping down, including more than $500,000 in legal fees that she and her husband, Todd, incurred because of 15 ethics complaints filed against her during her two and a half years in office.

Mr. Coulter said CLSA has a history of inviting keynote speakers who are “newsworthy and potentially controversial.” Other previous speakers at the conference have included Al Gore, Alan Greenspan, Bono and Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

Mrs. Palin’s speech took place at the Grand Hyatt on the Victoria Harbor waterfront and amid the soaring towers of corporate giants like AIG, HSBC and the Bank of China. Some attendees saw Hong Kong as an auspicious place for her first major international appearance.

Melvin Goodé, a regional marketing consultant, thought Mrs. Palin chose Hong Kong because, he said, it was “a place where things happen and where freedom can be expanded upon.”

“It’s not Beijing or Shanghai,” said Mr. Goodé . “She also mentioned Tibet, Burma and North Korea in the same breath as places where China should be more sensitive and careful about how people are treated. She said it on a human-rights level.”

Mr. Goodé, an African-American who said he did some campaign polling for President Obama, said Mrs. Palin mentioned President Obama three times on Wednesday.

“And there was nothing derogatory in it, no sleight of hand, and believe me, I was listening for that,” he said, adding that Mrs. Palin referred to Mr. Obama as “our president,” with the emphasis on “our.”

Mr. Goodé, a New Yorker who said he would never vote for Mrs. Palin, said she acquitted herself well.

“They really prepared her well,” he said. “She was articulate and she held her own. I give her credit. They’ve tried to categorize her as not being bright. She’s bright.”

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Could be.

It feels...odd...to have an ideology I've held most of my life suddenly become "popular". Up until this year I've always felt like the odd man out, the fringe-nut that everybody quietly agreed with when they pulled me aside to talk, but had to laugh at in front of their friends.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-23   11:17:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SonOfLiberty (#1)

It feels...odd...to have an ideology I've held most of my life suddenly become "popular".

Goebbels said it well:

You can with justice claim: "Yes, but at the moment Christianity took over the state, it began to cease being Christian." That is the tragedy of all great ideas. At the moment they enter the realm of this life of sin, of the all-too-human, they leave the heavens and lose their romantic magic. They become something normal. We are not discussing whether or not one can change the nature of life. Things have gone on this way for millions of years, and will go on in the same way for millions more. You will have to ask a higher power why that is so. At the moment an idea takes practical form, it loses its angel's wings, its romantic mystery.

But don't let it bother you. Too much.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-23   12:14:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#11)

If I come to ever used Goebbels as a truth teller, I'll slash my wrists and call it a life.

That an idea gains acceptance does not mean the idea is corrupt or is necessarily corruptible at the get go. If I recall history correctly, a group of rowdy guys decided that the individual should matter more than the state and went out and broke ties with the world's largest empire at the time. Their thought seemed to hold for a good 100 years at least. That's something.

Why those on "our" side feel the constant need to surrender before firing the first shot, or view every success as somehow tainted and unworthy of admiration, I just do not know. We've got to get over this self loathing that the statists have bred into us over the last few decades.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-23   12:46:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: SonOfLiberty (#15) (Edited)

Their thought seemed to hold for a good 100 years at least.

Judging by Jefferson's writings, their experiment did not outlive them.

It became something normal.

All revolutions are betrayed.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-23   12:59:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#18)

He was upset about the small cracks, not the fall of their ideas overall.

I'm gathering from your words that you feel that we should do nothing and give up and continue to rant on the silent fringe. If that's what you want, I respect your right to make that choice. I can't sit by and watch my children's lives, and my life, and my wife's life, and the lives of my friends and neighbors, being reduced to that of slave.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-23   13:02:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: SonOfLiberty (#19)

He was upset about the small cracks, not the fall of their ideas overall.

He did not minimize them. He did not think them small. But he was also neither despairing, nor did he yet advise rebellion again.

It would have been interesting if he had lived to see the War Against the States.

I'm gathering from your words that you feel that we should do nothing

Not at all. But I no longer call myself a libertarian.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-23   13:13:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#22)

He did not minimize them. He did not think them small. But he was also neither despairing, nor did he yet advise rebellion again.

But they were small, in retrospect, which is why he didn't advise rebellion.

Not at all. But I no longer call myself a libertarian.

That's your choice.

Me, I'm not going to be mad because we're gaining traction on our ideas without the ideas having to be altered. Who knows what the future brings, but I won't sit by and let others determine it for me, and mutter about those who try. Which is my choice.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-23   13:15:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: SonOfLiberty (#23)

That's your choice.

Yes, it is.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-09-23 13:16:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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