Though technically, Clint Eastwood is a libertarian. I didn't get all the way through, did they get to Penn & Teller (libertarians), Drew Carey (libertarian), Kurt Russell (libertarian), John LaRoquette from night court (libertarian)?
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I was surprised to see some of the people who are registered as Republicrat. WTF does Kidd Rock have in common with the Republicrat Party? An ex-meth dealer who still uses drugs, drinks alcohol, and enjoys watching and performing in pornographic movies. The Republicrats would rendition his ass in the nearest foreign country if they could get away with it, all the while shouting Hallelujah and Praise Jesus.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
Though technically, Clint Eastwood is a libertarian. I didn't get all the way through, did they get to Penn & Teller (libertarians), Drew Carey (libertarian), Kurt Russell (libertarian), John LaRoquette from night court (libertarian)?
No, they were just naming those who were registered as republicrats.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
Yeah, Kid Rock's only connection to Republicans, I think, is his rather slavish militarism and his rather admirable upholding of gun rights.
Which if you think about it, the whole gun rights thing doesn't belong to Republicans either any longer.
Why the hell is he with the Republicans now that you mention it? I've no problem with his drug use and stripper love, that's cool, but like you say, it does put him at odds with the republican party.
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I like seeing libertarian lists. Usually the most eccentric and fun people out there. When you have Frank Zappa in your ranks, you have to be groovy cool, in my view. :)
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Which if you think about it, the whole gun rights thing doesn't belong to Republicans either any longer.
It never did, it's another one of those myths put out by the two party bird to try to create some uniqueness for one of the wings. And keep the rubes at each others throats.
AND most drug dealers show strong evidence of 2nd amendment support at least for themselves.
Which if you think about it, the whole gun rights thing doesn't belong to Republicans either any longer.
That's right. The power of the BATF to harass and intimidate gun owners increased under the Republicrat Party with the full knowledge and support of the party.
Why the hell is he with the Republicans now that you mention it? I've no problem with his drug use and stripper love, that's cool, but like you say, it does put him at odds with the republican party.
I feel the same way. I could care less about his drug use or any other category I mentioned. It's not my business. I just can't figure out why someone would be a member of a party that hates everything he stands for. That's why I'm not a member of the Republicrat Party. I have a set of core values which do not change because the control of government passes from one party to another. I believe in small government and REAL free markets. They despise people like me. So I am not a member.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
From what little I've read about Kid Rock, if you got rid of his slavish militarism, he's part and parcel libertarian. Doesn't like taxes, likes guns, has no problems with guns or sex, pretty much is live and let live. Hopefully he'll realize it some day. If not, no loss I guess. For what it's worth, he's probably the last rock n' roller out there, and put balls back into rock, at least for a little while by putting out his own label and rejecting corporate crap music.
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You evidently don't remember the days when the Pubs were considered the party of country clubbers and large businessmen and the Dems included everyone else including the rural hunter types. And veterans and servicemen were almost always DEMS, as Democrat was the war party then.
Why would I remember that, I'm pretty sure that time pre-dates my political awareness. My first political memory is Watergate, and at the time I had no real idea what was going on. The first consciously aware political activity I engaged in was during Reagan's terms, when the libertarian-ish types had taken the reigns for a short while.
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The first consciously aware political activity I engaged in was during Reagan's terms, when the libertarian-ish types had taken the reigns for a short while.
The parties started switching identities then, but I don't recall the libertarians in the GOP.
That's why I said "libertarian-ish". Reagan's rhetoric and his tax cuts and putting focus in the public arena back on individual rights (in some respects) nearly drove the LP of that day out of business.
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For many of us it is the hold the two party system has. I have only been a registered R all my life only because they HAD been closer to what I believe.
My delema was that if you can't vote in a primary there is a good chance a very good person could not gain enough votes to become the candidate. Ron Paul for example stayed R. He said they left him, he did not leave them. In my state you can't vote in the primary if you are not a D or R so here I sit.
Although I believe in FREEDOM, Liberty all the way around you can't say it is and then limit freedom. If you can't handle your freedom with respect to others then you may have to be taught a lesson.
I may be registered an R but I vote or don't because of who runs. So tecnically I'm INDEPENDENT.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
For many of us it is the hold the two party system has. I have only been a registered R all my life only because they HAD been closer to what I believe.
My delema was that if you can't vote in a primary there is a good chance a very good person could not gain enough votes to become the candidate. Ron Paul for example stayed R. He said they left him, he did not leave them. In my state you can't vote in the primary if you are not a D or R so here I sit.
Although I believe in FREEDOM, Liberty all the way around you can't say it is and then limit freedom. If you can't handle your freedom with respect to others then you may have to be taught a lesson.
I may be registered an R but I vote or don't because of who runs. So tecnically I'm INDEPENDENT.
I don't have to worry about that in the state that I live in so that is something I didn't think about. Good point.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
That's why I said "libertarian-ish". Reagan's rhetoric and his tax cuts and putting focus in the public arena back on individual rights (in some respects) nearly drove the LP of that day out of business.
Yep that S and L collapse with lots of people losing their retirements and investments was a great libertarian acheivement.
I don't have to worry about that in the state that I live in so that is something I didn't think about. Good point.
Many times we find the cards stacked against us. After the last R I really wanted to change and send them a subtle message but could not.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
I can see you're wanting to pick fights with Reagan. That's your call.
Fact is, he made a huge, massive tax cut at a time when we were drowning economically, and bing, the economy rebounded like gangbusters. He made a lot of "you know, the government is not the solution, it's the problem" speeches at a time when the public was still hung over from the bilge of the 60's and 70's. Love him or hate him, he put the idea of limited government back on the mind of people, regardless of whether he followed through well by the end of his term.
He goofed up, without question, and I'm not here to defend him. What I'm trying to communicate to you, is that I'd have no base of accurate political recollection about a time when I was, perhaps, five years old tops.
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I can and do register as a Libertarian in my state. We even vote in primaries. And when we look at the ballot, we have "Libertarian" clearly stated on the candidate's name if he's a Libertarian, just like the R's and D's have for theirs. :)
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I can and do register as a Libertarian in my state. We even vote in primaries. And when we look at the ballot, we have "Libertarian" clearly stated on the candidate's name if he's a Libertarian, just like the R's and D's have for theirs. :)
I'm glad for ya. Not that way here in the FREE state.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
The more I write about where I live, and then read what I've written, which I know to be accurate and true to the best of my ability, it occurs to me that I may be making my area a prime target for an "accidental" nuclear explosion or "bizarre mutant disease" outbreak. heh
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I can see you're wanting to pick fights with Reagan. That's your call.
I'm just trying to disprove certain myths that have become prevalent in the current political clime. He was also the architect of our current immigration policy and for that also deserves lasting notoriety.
What I'm telling you, is that I became politically active at a time when the nation was being given a more libertarian leaning, especially considering the grey, dirty preceding two decades of socialist propaganda they had just come out of. Like it or not, when a guy, any guy, on the national stage, with the world's ear, stands up and says things like "government is generally wrong, individuals are generally right" and does some...*SOME* of the things he did, and the country does a full turnaround, then there's a certain level of "libertarian-ish" conversion going on.
His failings are a matter of political record, no question. At the time, when I was just coming to political age, he got me aligned in such a way that moving to libertarianism was quick and easy. And the same for a lot of other GenX people.
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Yet, in retrospect to the gov influence in our lives, the whole country was much more libertarian in the fifties AND sixties .
In a way, sure. Unfortunately those were the exact decades when the philosophical groundwork was being laid hard and heavy in universities, schools and government that fully endorsed the path we're on now. They just hadn't gotten around to implementing those things quite yet at that time.
The 40's and 50's seem to me to be a huge push towards collectivism and militarism and destroying the notion of the individual. Most look on them as some kind of Golden Age, but I'm rather revolted by the times. Granted, they hadn't stripped away 90% of our freedoms yet, so I guess it would have been fun to have been around back then.
Given my druthers, I'd have loved to have been hanging out in the 1880's, somewhere out West, or even just here in Ohio.
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The more I write about where I live, and then read what I've written, which I know to be accurate and true to the best of my ability, it occurs to me that I may be making my area a prime target for an "accidental" nuclear explosion or "bizarre mutant disease" outbreak. heh
Hmmmmmmmmm, What's that clickin noise? You may be right.:)
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson