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Title: Slideshow - Celebs who lean to the Right
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URL Source: http://wcbstv.com/slideshows/Conservative.Celebrities.20.824701.html
Published: Sep 24, 2009
Author: CBS
Post Date: 2009-09-24 14:00:51 by Jethro Tull
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#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

I was surprised to see some of the people who are registered as Republicrat. WTF does Kidd Rock have in common with the Republicrat Party? An ex-meth dealer who still uses drugs, drinks alcohol, and enjoys watching and performing in pornographic movies. The Republicrats would rendition his ass in the nearest foreign country if they could get away with it, all the while shouting Hallelujah and Praise Jesus.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-09-24   14:28:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Hayek Fan (#2)

Yeah, Kid Rock's only connection to Republicans, I think, is his rather slavish militarism and his rather admirable upholding of gun rights.

Which if you think about it, the whole gun rights thing doesn't belong to Republicans either any longer.

Why the hell is he with the Republicans now that you mention it? I've no problem with his drug use and stripper love, that's cool, but like you say, it does put him at odds with the republican party.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-24   14:31:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SonOfLiberty (#4)

You evidently don't remember the days when the Pubs were considered the party of country clubbers and large businessmen and the Dems included everyone else including the rural hunter types. And veterans and servicemen were almost always DEMS, as Democrat was the war party then.

mininggold  posted on  2009-09-24   14:58:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mininggold (#9)

Why would I remember that, I'm pretty sure that time pre-dates my political awareness. My first political memory is Watergate, and at the time I had no real idea what was going on. The first consciously aware political activity I engaged in was during Reagan's terms, when the libertarian-ish types had taken the reigns for a short while.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-24   15:01:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SonOfLiberty (#10)

The first consciously aware political activity I engaged in was during Reagan's terms, when the libertarian-ish types had taken the reigns for a short while.

The parties started switching identities then, but I don't recall the libertarians in the GOP.

mininggold  posted on  2009-09-24   15:04:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mininggold (#11)

That's why I said "libertarian-ish". Reagan's rhetoric and his tax cuts and putting focus in the public arena back on individual rights (in some respects) nearly drove the LP of that day out of business.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-24   15:06:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SonOfLiberty (#12)

That's why I said "libertarian-ish". Reagan's rhetoric and his tax cuts and putting focus in the public arena back on individual rights (in some respects) nearly drove the LP of that day out of business.

Yep that S and L collapse with lots of people losing their retirements and investments was a great libertarian acheivement.

mininggold  posted on  2009-09-24   15:09:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mininggold (#15)

I can see you're wanting to pick fights with Reagan. That's your call.

Fact is, he made a huge, massive tax cut at a time when we were drowning economically, and bing, the economy rebounded like gangbusters. He made a lot of "you know, the government is not the solution, it's the problem" speeches at a time when the public was still hung over from the bilge of the 60's and 70's. Love him or hate him, he put the idea of limited government back on the mind of people, regardless of whether he followed through well by the end of his term.

He goofed up, without question, and I'm not here to defend him. What I'm trying to communicate to you, is that I'd have no base of accurate political recollection about a time when I was, perhaps, five years old tops.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-24   15:16:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: SonOfLiberty (#17) (Edited)

I can see you're wanting to pick fights with Reagan. That's your call.

I'm just trying to disprove certain myths that have become prevalent in the current political clime. He was also the architect of our current immigration policy and for that also deserves lasting notoriety.

mininggold  posted on  2009-09-24   15:24:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#21)

And again, I'm not arguing for Reagan.

What I'm telling you, is that I became politically active at a time when the nation was being given a more libertarian leaning, especially considering the grey, dirty preceding two decades of socialist propaganda they had just come out of. Like it or not, when a guy, any guy, on the national stage, with the world's ear, stands up and says things like "government is generally wrong, individuals are generally right" and does some...*SOME* of the things he did, and the country does a full turnaround, then there's a certain level of "libertarian-ish" conversion going on.

His failings are a matter of political record, no question. At the time, when I was just coming to political age, he got me aligned in such a way that moving to libertarianism was quick and easy. And the same for a lot of other GenX people.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-24   15:28:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: SonOfLiberty (#22)

Yet, in retrospect to the gov influence in our lives, the whole country was much more libertarian in the fifties AND sixties .

Each president has taken us down the road to where we are now. Some said they were going to reverse it. I doubt they even slowed it up.

mininggold  posted on  2009-09-24   15:33:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mininggold (#23)

Yet, in retrospect to the gov influence in our lives, the whole country was much more libertarian in the fifties AND sixties .

In a way, sure. Unfortunately those were the exact decades when the philosophical groundwork was being laid hard and heavy in universities, schools and government that fully endorsed the path we're on now. They just hadn't gotten around to implementing those things quite yet at that time.

The 40's and 50's seem to me to be a huge push towards collectivism and militarism and destroying the notion of the individual. Most look on them as some kind of Golden Age, but I'm rather revolted by the times. Granted, they hadn't stripped away 90% of our freedoms yet, so I guess it would have been fun to have been around back then.

Given my druthers, I'd have loved to have been hanging out in the 1880's, somewhere out West, or even just here in Ohio.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-09-24   15:36:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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