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Title: Beware of Rising “Libertarians”
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Taki's Magazine
URL Source: http://www.takimag.com/sniperstower ... beware_of_rising_libertarians/
Published: Sep 24, 2009
Author: Mike Payne
Post Date: 2009-09-25 17:33:18 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 292
Comments: 30
First Glenn Beck goes “libertarian.” Now we get word that Sarah “Daisy Crockett” Palin gave a speech in Hong Kong that was so anti-government one observer noted: “She didn’t sound at all like a far-right-wing conservative. She seemed to be positioning herself as a libertarian or a small-c conservative.” Dylan Hales recently remarked that the newly “libertarian” Beck may at least prove a useful idiot. One might say the same of Palin. Unfortunately, after a certain level of idiocy, you cease being useful. Drawing converts with icons that make the base drool is one thing. But when the icons themselves do most of the drooling, it is quite another. Glenn Beck regrets mistreating Ron Paul? I don’t buy it. When Dr. Paul and his movement posed a threat to the “conservative” establishment, Beck and co. worked urgently to snicker him off the main stage. Once Paul was safely back in his corner, it became acceptable for Beck and co. to address him like semi-adults. Now that there’s a Democrat in office, the good doctor is being cynically used by Beck and co. as a backdoor means of slamming the President and “big government” in general (but really just big Democratic government). In a heartwarming coincidence, Sarah Palin has now also decided to get tough on the Fed. Hmmm, when she was the establishment running mate, she was all for the Fed-guided Wall Street bailouts. Her newfound stance also comes off as a cynical, Obama-baiting ploy and a clever exploitation of the anti-big government movement (meaning anti-big Democratic government). Beck and Palin’s conversion will ultimately be long on rhetoric, short on reality. Think of all those supposed limited government fans who have spent years quoting Reagan’s “government is not the solution” line as though it has any relationship to Reagan’s actions in office (Palin namedropped Reagan in Hong Kong). Funny, they were all too happy to recite that very slogan on their way to voting Bush in a second time. And for those who thought Palin was in any way a break from the “compassionate,” politically correct tone of the neoconized Republican platform, get a whiff of this cringeworthy pandering from her Hong Kong spiel: Personally, I’ve always been really interested in the ideas too about the land bridge. Ideas that maybe so long ago, had allowed Alaska to be physically connected to this part of our world so many years ago. My husband and my children, they’re part [unintelligible] Eskimo, Alaskan natives. They’re our first people, and the connection that may have brought ancestors from here to there is fascinating to me. Making our world seem a little bit smaller, more united, to consider that connection that allowed sharing of peoples and bloodlines and wildlife and flora and fauna, that connection to me is quite fascinating. She may as well have said, “I have Inuit friends.” No wonder McCain picked her. One fake maverick deserves another.
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#1. To: X-15 (#0)
Unnecessarily harsh. I doubt Palin is a well-read philosophical libertarian in the way Ron Paul is. But I did not think she was a big fan of TARP from the way she talked about it; I had the impression she was just reading the McStain script given to her as the VP candidate. A VP is a spokesman for the running mate. So there's no reason to believe that Palin was in agreement with McStain, no more than you would imagine Bush I was in agreement with Reagan on matters like abortion or what Bush called 'voodoo economics' during the campaign. However, she did greet Ron Paul quite warmly once when he was in Alaska and seemed to embrace him and know something about what he stood for. I think we still don't know exactly where Palin stands in political philosophy. While the presence of Scheuneman isn't encouraging, that doesn't mean much other than the neocons are trying to be her go-to campaign guys.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I'm glad we have authentic libertarians like Bill Maher to point this out to us.
Redneck vs. cop: Redneck. Cop vs. n-word: Cop. n-word vs. white guilter: n-word. Being a lawyer knocks you down a peg, so redneck lawyer vs. cop and n-word lawyer vs. white guilter are toss-ups. White guilter lawyers are the lowest form of life. Isn't everybody? Besides the Messiah I mean. Even B. Fag is making nice noises. Imagine the venom and gnashing of teeth should she win the presidency and take the credit for doing something about the fed. "Waaaa! It was OUR idea! It was OUR idea!" Could she claim fair use under GPL?
Redneck vs. cop: Redneck. Cop vs. n-word: Cop. n-word vs. white guilter: n-word. Being a lawyer knocks you down a peg, so redneck lawyer vs. cop and n-word lawyer vs. white guilter are toss-ups. White guilter lawyers are the lowest form of life. Be careful. There is a lot of Sarah love on this board. More than one gentleman here has a crush on this little Alaskan package. I was called a paid government shill for putting her and Beck in the same box.
Like Palin---yet another Israel ass kissing federal media creation.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
There will be another purge here at 4um. Just like there were many closet democrats hiding here as "independents", there are many republicans hiding here as the same. Neither Beck nor Palin are libertarians, they are part of the two headed snake political system.
Mark If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
They are frauds and anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
I actually think this guy has it right. The Republicans are attempting a face- lift using Beck. The way Beck "snickered" Ron Paul when he was a guest on Beck's program was very rude to say the least. Oh sure, Beck giggled a little before he uttered his first expression "You know you can't win, right, Dr. Paul. Beck was the kiss of death to Dr. Paul. However, I'm so cynical I'm not sure Dr. Paul wasn't in on the sham.
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity and possibly your soul.
To me, she is like Julia Roberts... if I could gag her for the night, I'd do her.
Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo ping
If one doesn't fit neatly into some government category, they're different and must be fixed.-jethro tull
huh? my god, she sounds like bush. regarding her libertarian conversion, i'm not buying it now. too little too late. besides, who did she have accompanying her? the neocon scheumann. enough said.
you're such a bad boy. ;)
What do you expect since Beck takes his leads from Bill Oreilly who hated RP? Since Bill has taken him under his wing Beck now has become the leading exposer of Democrat fraud, too bad he was AWOL for the exposing of Republican fraud.
Don't you feel sick arguing about charlatans in the news media?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
A miner today showed me his coffee can full to the rim of gold fines he has been been hand mining since June on his claim. That perked me up, until he told me about all the hassles he received from the Forest Service lackies regarding the strict maintenence and adherence to regulations on the claim. He said they watched him like a hawk. Couldn't even put a small carpet down on the ground next to his trailer to help keep the dirt out.
Way back in the old days, my uncle (whom retired from the Los Angeles Department Water&Power) took me out in the Sierra Nevadas, proving his geiger counter readings to a young man about uranium found on his own. I am the guy he showed his Geiger counter and variations of black lighting at the time. Impressed, I was back in 1965 as a young lad. He had the government job to use data on a daily basis through his work. He died a rich man ... not by his direct government job but because he studied ways and means to claim his own mining interests as a result of data. How about that!
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Pretty good... especially with the advent of ground analyzing technology in that era. My gramps worked for a time in an old Tungsten Mine near Lone Pine, died as poor as a church mouse. He tried too many times to mine Reno and Las Vegas.
Too cool. Shows we have personal reflective commentary ensuring a common discussion about personal history. But, I want to assure you of a particular personal focus: my background (akin to yours) are not about scrutiny. I pray we can have free-lance personal discussions at all times as these FACTS based upon personal observations are as important to some god-damned MFer on a popular radio channel. The goal for myself is to be able to speak freely and see other opinions that may or may not modify my own opinion or the publick at large. In any event, I want to see a larger range of opinions casted in a responsible way.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
No Argument here ... even though I'm elated to see the march on DC [9-12]
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity and possibly your soul.
yep ... she's a neo-c-word !!!
The U.S. Govt is a tyrannical butcher; U.S. taxpayers are accomplices to international murder and mayhem. If you satisfy your fears by bowing to this butcher, you forfeit your humanity and possibly your soul.
Really. Confabs with the elites, press excluded, and this sudden exit from office. Strange. Understandable in light of the pressure of investigations and lawsuit. But it makes a poor impression. How long has RP been in office? No one has been able to impeach his integrity. He's been steadily hammering at his cause for years, and he is getting mighty close to what may be, in the coming year or so, a serious re-evaluation of the role of the Fed in our national finances. He's sticking with the party, and a lot of us have faulted him for that, but he's still in office, and still wielding and gaining influence. He's maintained his position in the party while remaining solidly anti-war. Palin and Beck in contrast are, as they always have been, whoring for war and are now tapping into the current wave of tea party unrest. They get well rewarded for trying to corral the disaffected and blunting any effort toward change in our militant posture on behalf of the merchants of destruction. I don't believe that either of them has a stable personality and dont place any trust in them.
here's the thing. anyone who has been a serious threat to the FedRes has been killed. RP has to know that. sure, he's educating people and maybe that's his goal, but i honestly don't expect anything to come of it. i think the congressmen/women signing on are doing it to obtain favor with their constituents knowing full well that the senate isn't going to pass the audit bill so they have nothing to lose. Cynichrissy
Fed Res has been around for nearly 100 years, during that time they have taken over control of this corrupt government, and control both "political parties". There is no way one man will bring down this evil group. The Lindberghs tried and were ruined with a family member killed. McFadden tried and was killed as did Huey Long. Others fell along the wayside. Paul will not succeed.
We're headed for a big breakup, and the Fed will be just one of the ones to take a hit.
Regardless of what happens, the owners and organization of the Fed will survive.
This system is doomed.
Recall Albert Pike and his predictions over a hundred years ago.
I speak with people from all over the world every day and they are increasingly conscious that the Anglo-American system has failed. They want out from under. Time and numbers militate against our masters.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
#2. To: X-15 (#0)
#3. To: X-15 (#0)
Open season on them.
#4. To: X-15 (#0)
In a heartwarming coincidence, Sarah Palin has now also decided to get tough on the Fed.
Open season on them.
#5. To: ghostdogtxn (#2)
(Edited)
She is an idiot.
#6. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#3)
authentic libertarians like Bill Maher to point this out to us.
#7. To: randge (#5)
#8. To: Kamala (#7)
Neither Beck nor Palin are libertarians, they are part of the two headed snake political system.
#9. To: X-15 (#0)
Glenn Beck regrets mistreating Ron Paul? I don’t buy it. When Dr. Paul and his movement posed a threat to the “conservative” establishment, Beck and co. worked urgently to snicker him off the main stage. Once Paul was safely back in his corner, it became acceptable for Beck and co. to address him like semi-adults. Now that there’s a Democrat in office, the good doctor is being cynically used by Beck and co. as a backdoor means of slamming the President and “big government” in general (but really just big Democratic government).
#10. To: randge (#5)
Be careful. There is a lot of Sarah love on this board.
Let me get this straight.
#11. To: X-15, *libertarians*, *Sarah Palin 2012* (#0)
#12. To: X-15, Kamala, randge, wbales, noone222, TooConservative (#0)
Personally, I’ve always been really interested in the ideas too about the land bridge. Ideas that maybe so long ago, had allowed Alaska to be physically connected to this part of our world so many years ago. My husband and my children, they’re part [unintelligible] Eskimo, Alaskan natives. They’re our first people, and the connection that may have brought ancestors from here to there is fascinating to me. Making our world seem a little bit smaller, more united, to consider that connection that allowed sharing of peoples and bloodlines and wildlife and flora and fauna, that connection to me is quite fascinating.
#13. To: Critter (#10)
#14. To: noone222 (#9)
I actually think this guy has it right. The Republicans are attempting a face- lift using Beck. The way Beck "snickered" Ron Paul when he was a guest on Beck's program was very rude to say the least. Oh sure, Beck giggled a little before he uttered his first expression "You know you can't win, right, Dr. Paul
#15. To: mininggold (#14)
#16. To: buckeroo (#15)
Don't you feel sick arguing about charlatans in the news media?
#17. To: mininggold (#16)
(Edited)
#18. To: buckeroo (#17)
How about that!
#19. To: mininggold (#18)
#20. To: mininggold (#14)
What do you expect since Beck takes his leads from Bill Oreilly who hated RP? Since Bill has taken him under his wing Beck now has become the leading exposer of Democrat fraud, too bad he was AWOL for the exposing of Republican fraud.
#21. To: christine (#12)
who did she have accompanying her? the neocon scheumann. enough said.
#22. To: christine (#12)
regarding her libertarian conversion, i'm not buying it now. too little too late. besides, who did she have accompanying her? the neocon scheumann. enough said.
#23. To: randge, Esso, Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#22)
He's been steadily hammering at his cause for years, and he is getting mighty close to what may be, in the coming year or so, a serious re-evaluation of the role of the Fed in our national finances.
#24. To: christine (#23)
(Edited)
#25. To: Cynicom, christine, cynics everywhere (#24)
#26. To: randge (#25)
We're headed for a big breakup, and the Fed will be just one of the ones to take a hit.
#27. To: Cynicom (#26)
#28. To: randge (#27)
This system is doomed.
#29. To: Cynicom (#28)
#30. To: randge (#5)
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