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Title: Who are the Branch Carbonians?
Source: WashingtonExaminer.com
URL Source: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o ... ranch-Carbonians-61251277.html
Published: Sep 24, 2009
Author: Mark Tapscott
Post Date: 2009-09-26 05:24:18 by sourcery
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Are radical environmentalists members of a political movement or more like the devotees of a religious cult, one that might dubbed the Branch Carbonians? Truespeak.org's Jim Guirardi suggests the label and offers an illuminating case for the latter in this post from the American Thinker. There is much more to Guirardi's piece, but as a sample, here are his 10 reasons these fanatical devotees qualify as participants in a cult. If these sound somehow familiar, they are based on the criteria elaborated upon in the 2003 book, "Kingdom of the Cults,"by Walter Martin and Ravi Zacharia:

1. Leadership by a self-glorifying, manipulative New Age Prophet -- in this case, former Vice-President Al Gore, though he is rapidly being supplanted by President Barack Obama.

2. Assertion of an apocalyptic threat to all mankind.

3. An absolutist definition of both the threat and the proposed solution(s).

4. Promise of a salvation from this pending apocalypse.

5. Devotion to an inspired text which (arguendo) embodies all the answers -- in this case, Prophet Gore's pseudo-scientific book "Earth in the Balance" and his more recent "An Inconvenient Truth" documentary.

6. A specific list of "truths" (see the Ten Commandments listed below) which must be embraced and proselytized by all Cult members..

7. An absolute intolerance of any deviation from any of these truths by any Cult member.

8. A strident intolerance of any outside criticism of the Cult's definition of the problem or of its proposed solutions.

9. A "Heaven-on-Earth" vision of the results of the mission's success and/or a "Hell-on-Earth" result if the cultic mission should fail.

10. An inordinate fear (and an outright rejection of the possibility) of being proven wrong in either the apocalyptic vision or the proposed salvation. Subscribe to *Agriculture-Environment*

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#2. To: sourcery (#0)

Environmentalism as practiced by members of the Dirt Worshippers is basically still Materialism i.e., a belief that existence and awareness are solely predicated upon the physical universe - Matter, Energy, Space, and Time. It is deep down really quite shallow as there is more to existence than their narrow, almost maniacal (at the very least neurotic) focus upon plants and animals. Not that they are not important but that they are not the totality of existence.

As well seems to be the anti-human thread, again neurotic to psychotic, which fixates upon ALL humans as the cause rather than SOME humans who disregard all non-material considerations. The belief system of the environuts is so confused, and disorganized as to nearly defy analysis beyond noting that they are NUTS.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-09-26   11:54:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#2)

Environmentalism as practiced by members of the Dirt Worshippers is basically still Materialism i.e., a belief that existence and awareness are solely predicated upon the physical universe - Matter, Energy, Space, and Time. It is deep down really quite shallow as there is more to existence than their narrow, almost maniacal (at the very least neurotic) focus upon plants and animals. Not that they are not important but that they are not the totality of existence.

As well seems to be the anti-human thread, again neurotic to psychotic, which fixates upon ALL humans as the cause rather than SOME humans who disregard all non-material considerations. The belief system of the environuts is so confused, and disorganized as to nearly defy analysis beyond noting that they are NUTS.

Admittedly, you de-humanize those that actually care about the planet. You have confused modern international corporate, industrial and manufacturing capability and production techniques/methods with stripping the forests around the world so you can feel all cozy roasting chestnuts over an open fire during your Christmas retreat.

Meanwhile, the CO2 concentrations in the open aire are increasing.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-09-26   12:04:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#3)

Meanwhile, the CO2 concentrations in the open aire are increasing.

So what? The concentrations have been over 1500 in the past and when it was, the planet was a riot of diversity.

While the issue is posed as one of "planetary survival" what it really is is one of control over other humans couched in terms of what proponents want to see "preserved".

Even during quiescent times the average lifespan of a species is about 5-7 million years. Many times in the past the slate has been wiped 80+% clean. What was the result of the "wipings"? Massive adaptive radiation and arising of new species.

We may alter the planet, and it's within our power to guide that in a direction amenable to existing life and to our esthetic desires but only within a tiny moment in geologic time. Bottom line though, you'd have to reliquify the lithosphere to "exterminate" life on this globe and even then, I wouldn't put money on it's not re-emerging from reservoirs below that given that we've found examples that survive at multiples of atmospheric pressure and beyond waters boiling point.

So, from a devils advocate poit of view, what if it's "real" and injects chaos into the human world? While we always individually desire peace and stability, look what it brings in the end to "developed" nations; stagnation, hedonism, desires for statism to preserve the "norm", decay.

The world is dynamic, but it's always going to be here. Don't give in to the sweet nothings whispered by those desiring control just to assuage your desires to do "do something"...

Axenolith  posted on  2009-09-26   21:48:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#10. To: Axenolith (#9)

Don't give in to the sweet nothings whispered by those desiring control just to assuage your desires to do "do something"...

Amen!

farmfriend  posted on  2009-09-26 21:57:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Axenolith (#9)

The concentrations have been over 1500 in the past and when it was, the planet was a riot of diversity.

See my post above. If you note your comment and place it with respect to time it appears a bit naive, don't you think? After all, life as we know it (today) has not existed with that high of CO2 concentrations.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-09-27 16:09:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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