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Title: Christianity Is Plummeting In America, While The Number Of Non-Believers Is Skyrocketing
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009 ... ler-christians-americans-gone/
Published: Sep 29, 2009
Author: Bruce Feiler
Post Date: 2009-09-29 15:56:27 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1743
Comments: 102

A shocking new study of Americans’ religious beliefs shows the beginnings of a major realignment in Americans’ relationship with God. The American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) reveals that Protestants now represent half of all Americans, down almost 20 percent in the last twenty years. In the coming months, America will become a minority Protestant nation for the first time since the pilgrims.

The number of people who claim no religious affiliation, meanwhile, has doubled since 1990 to fifteen percent, its highest point in history. Non-believers now represent the third-highest group of Americans, after Catholics and Baptists.

Other headlines:

1) The number of Christians has declined 12% since 1990, and is now 76%, the lowest percentage in American history.

2) The growth of non-believers has come largely from men. Twenty percent of men express no religious affiliation; 12% of women.

3) Young people are fleeing faith. Nearly a quarter of Americans in their 20’s profess no organized religion.

4) But these non-believers are not particularly atheist. That number hasn’t budged and stands at less than 1 percent. (Agnostics are similarly less than 1 percent.) Instead, these individuals have a belief in God but no interest in organized religion, or they believe in a personal God but not in a formal faith tradition.

The implications for American society are profound. Americans’ relationship with God, which drove many of the country’s great transformations from the pilgrims to the founding fathers, the Civil War to the civil rights movement, is still intact. Eighty-two percent of Americans believe in God or a higher power.

But at the same time, the study offers yet another wake-up call for religious institutions.

First, catering to older believers is a recipe for failure; younger Americans are tuning out.

Second, Americans are interested in God, but they don’t think existing institutions are helping them draw closer to God.

Finally, Americans’ interest in religion has not always been stable. It dipped following the Revolution and again following Civil War. In both cases it rebounded because religious institutions adapted and found new ways of relating to everyday Americans.

Today, the rise of disaffection is so powerful that different denominations needs to band together to find a shared language of God that can move beyond the fading divisions of the past and begin moving toward a partnership of different-but-equal traditions.

Or risk becoming Europe, where religion is fast becoming an afterthought.

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#2. To: Brian S (#0)

Christianity Is Plummeting In America, While The Number Of Non-Believers Is Skyrocketing

Perfectly understandable. When Almighty God is mocked by the teaching of false beliefs not founded on the Bible, people should be aware that this is the result. God is not to be mocked, and the teaching of the so-called trinity, a fiery hell and eternal torment, going to heaven as opposed to the resurrection so clearly shown in the Bible, WILL lead to exactly this result. People will stop believing the lies.

As oppsoed to that, the numbers of Jehovah's Witnesses continues to increase, in some areas, dramatically. A very clear message that our work is being blessed.

richard9151  posted on  2009-09-29   16:43:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: richard9151 (#2)

When Almighty God is mocked by the teaching of false beliefs not founded on the Bible, people should be aware that this is the result. God is not to be mocked, and the teaching of the so-called trinity, a fiery hell and eternal torment, going to heaven as opposed to the resurrection so clearly shown in the Bible, WILL lead to exactly this result. People will stop believing the lies.

Well...yes and no...(I think.)

The numbers of Jehovah's Witnesses continues to increase, in some areas, dramatically. A very clear message that our work is being blessed.

Are you a JW? And which "work" is that exactly?

Liberator  posted on  2009-09-29   17:58:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Liberator (#8)

Are you a JW? And which "work" is that exactly?

Yes, I am. Baptized 10 months now, and finally beginning to understand the world and the Bible. As to the work, that is outlined in the Bible, very clearly.

Matthew 24:14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

Jehovah's Witnesses now have more than 100,000 congregations in more than 235 lands and islands, world wide. In essense, as the faithful and discreet slave has stated, this prophecy in the Book of Matthew has been fulfilled. And, if you have much knowledge of what is happening in the world, then you should be aware that the tribulation is beginning.

Those who believe that things are difficult now have no clue. The 'interesting times' are just beginning.

richard9151  posted on  2009-09-30   0:12:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: richard9151 (#50)

Whereas I admire your devotion to God and your spirituality, as a Christian, there are troubling questions about JWs...

Do you believe you are the only true church on earth?

Do you believe in the deity of Jesus Christ? His resurrection?

Do you believe in salvation through belief in the blood sacrifice of Christ?

Thanks.

Liberator  posted on  2009-09-30   10:36:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Liberator (#54) (Edited)

understand Buddhism

I've been buying Buddhist items from a very reliable http://www.ebay.com seller in Nepal. He describes the "powers" of each item in the listing, and ships almost everything insured and with signiture delivery. I can't get his link to work here, but just do a search for

"ebay seller yoga* guru" and you'll find 'em.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-09-30   13:44:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sizzlerguy (#57)

I've been buying Buddhist items from a very reliable http://www.ebay.com seller in Nepal. He describes the "powers" of each item in the listing, and ships almost everything insured and with signiture delivery.

99.9% positive feedback!

Interesting store...

It appears the Buddhists are gonna give Catholics a run for their money with respect to "magical" beads, charms, statues and trinkets.

Liberator  posted on  2009-09-30   13:51:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Liberator (#58)

It appears the Buddhists are gonna give Catholics a run for their money with respect to "magical" beads, charms, statues and trinkets.

LOL!! Excellent comment! AND; very accurate. It always amazes me the number of people who accept what is promoted.... anyone who goes back to the source of Buddism would find out that it is not a religion at all. Course, I have trouble giving serious consideration to anything that starts off by describing the earth as a tableland carried on the backs of giant elephants, standing on a giant turtle, which is on a giant snake (?) floating on an ocean? I may have part of the wrong, but you get the idea!!

richard9151  posted on  2009-10-02   11:31:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: richard9151 (#61)

Buddhism better integrates a person's mind and body (which is why there is yoga.) And it is ar more self empowering then the sort of religious fare you are in to.

It involves aspiring to a higher level of consciousness. Which of course is frightening to the leaders of any Christian or Muslim sect, as conformity and control is the central notion of a faith like yours'.

As for the metaphorical imagery you criticize, do I really need to dig out some of the crazy sounding examples of Bible blather to show you that you are a hypocrite to criticize that faith by denigrating story elements of Buddhist teachings?

You know, faith doesn't just have to be into the notion that there is some sort of head honcho god with a nail him up son at his side. It can also involve aspirations of the elevation of one's soul and spirit to a higher level of being.

I am not Buddhist, but I like thee teachings and focus, a heck of allot more then that which are the central notions and teachings of a faith like you are into.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-10-02   11:52:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Ferret Mike (#62)

I am not Buddhist, but I like thee teachings and focus, a heck of allot more then that which are the central notions and teachings of a faith like you are into.

Mike, since you have absolutely no clue as to what the teachings of my faith is, your comments are just plain silly. The only things you have to go by is what you have heard from the so-called mainstream of Christendom, nearly all of which is in error. Which explains why I quit that form of Christianity many, many years ago, and was fortunate enough to finally find people who could teach me how to understand the Bible -- for the first time in my life.

You will never do that, so you will live in blindness. Which is a proper perspective from which to appreciate Buddism.

richard9151  posted on  2009-10-02   18:04:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: richard9151 (#63)

you have absolutely no clue as to what the teachings of my faith is

catholic.com has some interesting stuff.

If this is accurate the Witnesses believe that Jesus is not divine.

There is more, but any real Christian would recoil in horror at that alone.

mirage  posted on  2009-10-02   18:15:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mirage (#64)

If this is accurate

And you will never know, because you only listen to those who have something to gain from their lies. After all, it is much better to listen to men than to Almighty God.

richard9151  posted on  2009-10-02   23:58:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: richard9151 (#66)

After all, it is much better to listen to men than to Almighty God.

That's why I checked it against the Watchtower and found it credible.

So, Jesus is just an Archangel per the Watchtower Society. Odd that.

mirage  posted on  2009-10-03   0:43:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: mirage (#72)

So, Jesus is just an Archangel per the Watchtower Society. Odd that.

LOL!! You are funny. As I said, it is amazing when you listen only to those who gain from your foolishness. I have even posted in this thread about Jesus Christ, the only-begotton son of God, but of course, what the catholics write is so much more important..... like about the crusades (OHHH! Much like today!!) and the millions they killed over the Reformation not to mention their help in bringing Hitler to power and, of course, the many, many priests and their abuse of children, esp. young boys.

Oh, by-the-way, here are two Bible quotes -- after you read them, fill me in once more about catholic theology;

1 Timothy 4:1 However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons, 2 by the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, marked in their conscience as with a branding iron; 3 forbidding to marry, commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be partaken of with thanksgiving by those who have faith and accurately know the truth.

Did you get that? Teaching of demons -- teaching forbidding to marry. Clear on that, and how it relates to the abuse of children by men who have been forbidden to marry? What, specifically, does the Bible say about marriage?

1 Timothy 3:12 Let ministerial servants be husbands of one wife, presiding in a fine manner over children and their own households. 13 For the men who minister in a fine manner are acquiring for themselves a fine standing and great freeness of speech in the faith in connection with Christ Jesus.

Please tell me something, how is it that men who have no knowledge of families can teach others how to manage families correctly.... or does this somehow have something to do with the rate of divorce in catholic marriages.... which is the same as or greater than the average divorce rates world wide? By-the-way, divorce rates amoung the Witnesses for Jehovah are less than 1%.......

Oh, and one more Bible fact;

Mattew 7:15 Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. 16 By their fruits YOU will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? 17 Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit; 18 a good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. 19 Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Really, then, by their fruits YOU will recognize those [men].

Ever heard of this particular Bible point? By their fruits you shall know them? What does that mean about the rest of their teachings? Now, want me to tell you what I have learned about how the Witnesses for Jehovah live according to what they learn from the Bible -- daily? Then, you want to continue this discussion?

richard9151  posted on  2009-10-03   12:06:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: richard9151 (#77)

You're arguing the Bible, not JW theology. Once you start getting into what the Watchtower Society says, and you will, then you'll start to see what I mean.

mirage  posted on  2009-10-03   12:44:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#87. To: mirage (#84)

You're arguing the Bible, not JW theology. Once you start getting into what the Watchtower Society says, and you will, then you'll start to see what I mean.

You are so foolish. There is no JW theology. There is only the Bible. Everything we do, which is why I am a Jehovah's Witnesses, is based ONLY on the Bible. There is no theology.

We never base anything on just one verse, or, just one thought. Everything is backed up in the Bible. THAT... is why this is so;

1 Timothy 7:15 Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. 16 By their fruits YOU will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? 17 Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit; 18 a good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. 19 Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Really, then, by their fruits YOU will recognize those [men].

By their fruits YOU will recognize them. I will put the fruitage of the Jehovah's Witnesses up against anyone, anywhere, anytime. Why? Because they are the only people in the world who actually do live according to what they learn from the Bible. THAT IS WHY I AM WITH THEM.

Now, here is another point that people like you miss; you do not join the Witnesses. Why? Because there is nothing to join. You become a Witness. That is all there is to it. Nobody checks on you; nobody does a roll call. Know what else? No man, anywhere, has a list of who is a Jehovah's Witness. And, we have no head here on this earth. Neat, huh?

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