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Title: LP is Dying (Lament of the remnant.....)
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Published: Sep 29, 2009
Author: reaganisright
Post Date: 2009-09-29 22:04:05 by abraxas
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Title: LP is Dying Source: none URL Source: http://http/na Published: Sep 29, 2009 Author: me Post Date: 2009-09-29 20:38:08 by reaganisright 3 Comments Left my computer on today, came home and the nine hours of new articles didn't fill my screen. You count them, its's not many, I won't. FAIR USE NOTICE: The above may be copyrighted material, and the use of it on LibertyPost.org may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Such material is made available on a non-profit basis for educational and discussion purposes only. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in 17 USC § 107. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Post Comment LP is Dying I agree. Extremism is taking over on all accounts and politically wise good people have no side to hang on too anymore. JustUsealittleBrainPower posted on 2009-09-29 20:41:22 ET Reply Trace byeltsin posted on 2009-09-29 20:53:27 ET (1 image) Reply Trace jeremiad posted on 2009-09-29 21:03:18 ET Reply Trace
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3. To: reaganisright (#0) I think that there is a quiet coming over the thought processes of thinking people. They are tired of complaining, tired of the same o same o, and are starting to weigh the costs of action NOT related to elections. IOW, why keep doing the same thing over and over again (electing Republicans or Democrats and expecting honest govt) it is time for real CHANGE, for good or ill.
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I thought I posted something to that thread.
I hope you remembered to wipe.
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" ~ Barry Goldwater
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I opted out on that last round of banning. The flame wars, exchange of insults and hypocricy gets old. I lurk on occassion, but don't post. I've noted that there aren't as many articles posted, with an echo chamber of GOP tards for commentary.
Maybe that was after I pulled for posting over here. Nice to see you over here at 4um, Fred. : )
Since the media of record there is World Nut Daily, it's also one of the main sources of articles. How many Obama birth certificate articles can they crank out in a week? That and fifty yard line's posting of blog crap are the mainstays there now.
It's Goldi's world seen through bizarre star-of-david glasses. Kinda like a kosher Elton John :P _________________________________________________________________________ You think you could get 4um members a nice group discount on those spiffy sunglasses?
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Seriously, how many times can Schlocky-Lox screaming "AGENT PROVOCATEUR!!" at anyone with differing opinions be considered funny before it's just pathetic? The moderator has gone insane. Furthermore, she allows her pet idiots, yukon, marguerite, and mad dog, just to name a few, who truly need their throats cut ear to ear, to prattle on incessantly 24/7 without rebuke, etc. It's distilled insanity now. There used to be some good in it, but it's k00k soup now, top-heavy with birthers, Christers, and assorted other nuts. Snuffy, Celeste, Danko, Itzl, e_type_jig, et al...they're all more suited for www.peopleofwalmart.com, and the comments are funnier. One of 'em (Celeste) is running around yelling for people to 'succeed' from the union, while Danko is rolling rocks and lamenting how he wishes he had the ability to do stuff because he has the knowledge, poor ol' Izzy just itching to throw the yoke of SERFdumb by the ruling EEE-lites, if he just had the sack to do so. Top it off with SnuffyJoe yelling Commie IMO and poor old Murron writing her screeds on the insides of Lucky Strike wrappers, then typing them in from the Wi-Fi at the East Cousinfuck General Store like dispatches from the war-torn front (SPIT!!), and that's pretty much the whole shebang. Perhaps I should have just summed up a typical conversation from a new poster and the denizens: "Hi, I'm new here, but I disagree with you about Sarah Palin and Obama." "You're a homo/ball-licker/asslicker/c^nt/TOOL." Tom Paine's fiery pen lives on.
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Aaaw, does it disturb you that the issue of your Dear Kenyan Leader's birth cert won't go away? I'm sure Keith Olbermann, HuffPo, or the New York Times are FAR more credible. And they NEVER mentions it the Birth Cert. Oh...and don't forget to wear earplugs and HUGE blinders.
Come on Blu - there's a cross-section of right-wing/libertarian ideologies at LP... Problem is there are currently only TWO major parties. Either the GOP gets a face-lift, or a strong enough Third Party is established - THAT'S not gonna happen in time to stop the Commie-Fascist 0bama, is it?
You're kidding me.
Isn't it odd that the people who find the birth cert issue most disturbing never stop talking about it? They are the same folks who have never attended a townhall but are are irritated when citizens take empty suit politicians to task over high taxes and Obama's BS medical program. Likewise they remain mum when Nancy Pelosi calls them Nazis. Not surprisingly, they fit in best with Progressives and leftists.
Well, at the current time all hell is breaking loose, but I DO see the conservative media hammering 0bama on many fronts and bashing his foundation. He's become less credible each day. Glen Beck alone is carpet-bombing 0bama EVERY DAY. Where you been bro? Sure - I'd like to see more of the ammo reserved for the feckless GOP and treasonous RNC itself - as well as the admission that Dubya's policies were destructive - but for now Rome is burning.
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LOLOL. you sure haven't lost your wit. ;P
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It's begun. Ruby Ridge, Waco, OKC (what is that missing 4 minutes on the tapes about)? The speed will quicken as more and more frogs leap out of the simmering pot.
Before you can get a solution to any problem, you first have to identify and understand the problem. The identification and understanding should always come before the solution is proposed. I suspect we're at the point where we've accurately identified the problem and clearly understand it. Now is the point when we have to come to some kind of solution. I don't begrudge people just opening their eyes right now. It takes time to see for may people.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
probably not until the economy crashes...
Yep. THEY are the one who are all OCD about it. They are the same folks who have never attended a townhall but are are irritated when citizens take empty suit politicians to task over high taxes and Obama's BS medical program. Likewise they remain mum when Nancy Pelosi calls them Nazis. Not surprisingly, they fit in best with Progressives and leftists. Nice bat to the kneecap... These same pods - feigning some sort of integrity and impartiality - are cowards and hypocrites. And yeah - for some reason they are afraid to admit that all they are nothing but useful idiots and gerbils of and for the Left.
Political tools, like gerrymandering, campaining laws, etc., will keep the domestic enemies in power. I see no political solutions. You may be right...But we can't give up. There's still a LOTTA sh*t to hit the fan, while the sheeple are finally beginning to exit their crypts. I'm just wondering when the first Americans are going to be killed as a result of all of this, on American soil. Hey - I agree with you - we have actually "Americans" in power who are actively planning our demise. But there MUST also be those on the inside fighting that plan.
Does sanity count?
ONLY when you're posting at LP and crapping all over the place. It's distilled insanity now. There used to be some good in it, but it's k00k soup now, top-heavy with birthers, Christers, and assorted other nuts. Yes, LP would be MUCH better immersed in a stew of insane pro-0bama supporters and various degrees of HuffPo sycophants, absurdity and militant atheism as nauseam. And you wonder why your act isn't appreciated over there? Can you possibly be any more dopey? Snuffy, Celeste, Danko, Itzl, e_type_jig, et al...they're all more suited for www.peopleofwalmart.com, and the comments are funnier. One of 'em (Celeste) is running around yelling for people to 'succeed' from the union, while Danko is rolling rocks and lamenting how he wishes he had the ability to do stuff because he has the knowledge, poor ol' Izzy just itching to throw the yoke of SERFdumb by the ruling EEE-lites, if he just had the sack to do so. Top it off with SnuffyJoe yelling Commie IMO and poor old Murron writing her screeds on the insides of Lucky Strike wrappers, then typing them in from the Wi-Fi at the East Cousinfuck General Store like dispatches from the war-torn front (SPIT!!), and that's pretty much the whole shebang. LOL - need a hanky for your boo-boo? Those baaaaaaaad people - if they only knew how much they hurt widdle US_GRANT...er...I mean Sammy Gray the Leftist Fellacial Artist. Perhaps I should have just summed up a typical conversation from a new poster and the denizens:"Hi, I'm new here, but I disagree with you about Sarah Palin and Obama." About WHO?? "0bama"?? That's funny. No, really.
We are STILL fighting the implementation of0bama's Agenda - despite the PR beating he's taking. You forget that the Left OWNS the media and is scrubbing as fast as they can. It's not exactly a foregone conclusion that his screwing the country will end any time soon... The neocon media is a day late and a dollar short and offers absolutely no solutions. It's nice to know that a majority now share our concerns, but sharing a box car with them en route to our destiny as we're all bitching in unison ain't my idea of a solution. Is it yours? ONE "solution" is exposing both 0bama and the Left's agenda and Army of Commies...And better late than never for the neocon/center-right to wake up. You want this all to go away overnight? I do too, but it's gonna take some time. Btw, what's YOUR "solution"??
Goldi-Pox has done it all by her liddle self. First with the pro-Israel bias, inviting people like Buttsmeller (aka ByteShredder) to post, exercising a double standard by permitting trolling and attacks by protected pro-Israel posters, bannings of people over pointing out her hypocrisy on the Ron Paul censorship she imposed, and then the latest wave of bannings. Goldi-Pox has created an environment where people do not have an expectation of being able to express their opinions freely without fear of retribution for disagreeing with the "Party Lyin'" - which is mostly the Israeli Party Lyin'. Eff her, the Broom she rode in on, and the Bat that followed her.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Geez, you are hopelessly OCD regarding Palin. She is an OUT-SIDER. Capece?? She was chosen by McStain AS A LARK. A JOKE. It backfired on the RNC Elites. Why don't you get it? She is a conservative work-in-progress - like most of us are. She's learning the real score - as most of us are. Most importantly SHE loves the America WE love - and has got the Juice to lead - like it or not.
You're good. LOL
She is a conservative work-in-progress - like most of us are. She's learning the real score - as most of us are. Most importantly SHE loves the America WE love - and has got the Juice to lead - like it or not. You are such a GOP troll. She's a pol and as such is entitled to be discussed. Quit running down the voters. She has to please us..... remember? She also had to consent to run with McCain unless you are implying that the GOP kidnaps their candidates.lololol Now even you are admitting Palin is a slow learner. Personally I would like to know where she stands on the issues, seems none of her beloved admirers can ever put most of them to paper. The ones she has admitted to puts her firmly in the Neocon camp. No thanks, and until she spills the beans I believe this "work-in- progress" is really a progressive like her master.
True that. The problem really is two-fold. One of the biggest is the addiction to Television. I walk down the street at night and it is a very rare house that does not have Idiot Machine on - belching its usual mix of propaganda, disinformation, and Psychiatric Programming in the form of "Reality" shows, Amurkin' Idull, and interspersed with slick commercials focus grouped and tested to push all the right buttons to convince the sheeple that they are not a real man if they don't drink spud and watch the Sunday Gladiatorial Games. The other major problem is the dumbing down of the educational systum. This has produced a generation now rising to adulthood who are semi-literate, poorly educated, and without hope to do better. Without a major infusion of energy and time by caring people this culture is doomed. It is not all gloom and doom and there are groups and organizations "doing something about it" but you'll never hear about it on the PsyOps Machine blaring its constant message of Obey and Consume.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Geez, you are hopelessly OCD regarding Palin. She is an OUT-SIDER. Capece?? She was chosen by McStain AS A LARK. A JOKE. It backfired on the RNC Elites. Why don't you get it? She is a conservative work-in-progress - like most of us are. She's learning the real score - as most of us are. Most importantly SHE loves the America WE love - and has got the Juice to lead - like it or not. Bingo! That is exactly the point behind all of the attacks on Sarah. While I have my points of disagreement she does seem to be a genuine article. That is what scares the PTB - the fear that a popular movement could coalesce around her - that is resistant to their PsyOps campaigns and intent on reclaiming the country from the crooks and scum now running it into the ground. It became apparent that she was wising up to the scam back during the Faux Presidential Campaign when the "annointed one" of the Banksters - Oh'bummer - was being set up to "win" the (s)election. Recall that insiders in the McLame Camp started (off the record of course) calling her a "Loose Cannon". That was a clear signal that she was waking up to the real scam and wanted nothing to do with it. Recall also that she started making comments and speeches that were not approved by MuNutz's controllers inside the phony campaign. He was still able to successfully take a dive for the cabal but it was less convincing because of Sarah. That disrupted their PsyOp and she has been a pain their collective asses ever since. GO SARAH!
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Yep to what you posted. I can't believe it normal for anyone to have listened to hundreds of thousands of commercials in their lifetime without suffering some type of cognitive dissonance.
And then in the next post you prove you bought into the whole Palin marketing campaign. How is anyone who is invited to talk to the UN an outsider? And she was protesting the inclusion of Iran to boot. I have REASONS why I dislike her.
And each of those commercials is carefully crafted (at least on the national level) to work below the level of normal awareness to implant the "message" and push the right "buttons" to evoke the desired response. It is very sophisticated mental programming and consuming hour upon hour of it does take a toll. I finally bypassed it all in complete disgust and stopped watching Tee Bee going on 6 years ago. For a time I watched "some" - a couple hours a month, but since I do not have cable, by intention, and did not buy a digital converter box I now watch only the occasional movie and a few choice programs I recorded off of PBS - including Julia Child. Lovvvvvve Julia - may she rest in peace. ;-) However even PBS is gone now as a venue of anything much worthwhile. If you look at the level of intellectual engagement in their "programming" today versus twenty to twenty-five years ago it is very noticeably dumbed down and more and more party line. I just love "Front Line" and its Faux Journalistic slant - larded with propaganda and disinformation - which is what PBS has become.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
I haven't really paid all that much attention to Sarah. My reaction to her, and opinions, are based more on what the media has done to attack her and distort what she has said. That is my barometer - that the media is trying to marginalize and discredit her are flags that suggest that, regardless of whether I agree with her on anything, that she is likely genuine.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Julia was a pretty neat gal that's for sure. I was pretty lucky in that a coworker was one of the researchers who worked on this type of research FOR THE US GOV (the results of which they later sold to advertising companies) and used to alert us on what was going on and how to avoid the consequences. He said first believe no commercials or mock them in your mind when you are forced to hear one that you can't shut out. Of course avoiding them in the first place is best.
I'm glad more people are "getting it". Not enough but the numbers are growing - as reflected in declining ratings. Gotta run. Take care.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
And you wonder why I barely take you seriously? Naw, never mind. Carry on... She's [Palin] a pol and as such is entitled to be discussed. Yeah, so? (yawn....) Quit running down the voters. She has to please us..... remember? She also had to consent to run with McCain unless you are implying that the GOP kidnaps their candidates.lololol Well, thanks for reminding me that I'm dealing with a funny-farm patient with your ever ubiquitous "lolololol" sign-off... But to address your whine and cheese: WHICH "voters" to you refer are being "run down"? And WHOM must Palin "please" again?? Dems? RINOs? The globalist Elite-controlled RNC asks some obscure, un-savvy, naive female Alaskan newbie Governor to be McStain VP. OUT OF THIN AIR. Yeah, that made sense. But why wouldn't she consent? It's an honor. HERE'S A HINT: They chose her to make her and her brand of Christianity and patriotism and conservatism and "those people" look foolish to America and to the GOP. McStain and his puppeteers WANTED TO LOSE TO 0BAMA. Duh... But their ploy didn't work - instead of McStain's support plummeting, it GALVANIZED conservatives of ALL stripes and religions. He almost (accidentally) won. Now you are entitled to believe all the bullsh*t and fairy tales you want, but you will either accept this woman as a conservative force to be reckoned with, or you can continue voting for 0bama and other Leftists. Now even you are admitting Palin is a slow learner. Personally I would like to know where she stands on the issues, seems none of her beloved admirers can ever put most of them to paper. The ones she has admitted to puts her firmly in the Neocon camp. No thanks, and until she spills the beans I believe this "work-in- progress" is really a progressive like her master. Most American are "slow learners." Who knew the GOP was infested with NWO puppets until Dubya's fake Iraq War and his refusal to clamp down of the illegal invasion? OR his release of $800 in TARP funding to his banking buds? Palin is a contrarian "politician." Why anyone believe she is anything but is beyond me. Lol, you believe she's a neocon? Why then would the RINOs of GOP and media attack her? If that were the case they should be kissing her @ss instead of hanging her out to dry. True - many of her actual specific and ideological views (not the campaign script) is yet to be articulated. And probably for good reason. But there is no question as to her bonafides and sincerity as an independent American patriot and conservative.
BINGO back atcha... It became apparent that she was wising up to the scam back during the Faux Presidential Campaign when the "annointed one" of the Banksters - Oh'bummer - was being set up to "win" the (s)election. Recall that insiders in the McLame Camp started (off the record of course) calling her a "Loose Cannon". That was a clear signal that she was waking up to the real scam and wanted nothing to do with it. Recall also that she started making comments and speeches that were not approved by MuNutz's controllers inside the phony campaign. He was still able to successfully take a dive for the cabal but it was less convincing because of Sarah. That disrupted their PsyOp and she has been a pain their collective asses ever since. GO SARAH! WELL said. I concur 100% with your assessment.
Yeah, so? (yawn....) Yet you always reply like a troll. LOLOLOL Maybe you need to see a doc for all that yawning, might be hypothyroidism.
Your barometer is a logical gauge... By observing the extent and degree of attacks, we may assume the attack-ee - Sarah Palin - is NOT anywhere near a cog in the Machine. It proves she is deemed a serious threat the Machine.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOL... (did I do it right?)
Heh..... as a troll probably working from Turkey certainly you can post some of Sarah's political stances on the issues. Even if she's still a "work-in-progress". lololol
Yeah, so? (yawn....) So of all my reply and explaining the dynamics of Palin, all you were able to focus on was the above? You deserve the ridicule you receive and dismissive regard.
You deserve the ridicule you receive and dismissive regard. Can't come up with them, huh?
Huh? What that? Do you hear your best friend calling you? I'm sure you two have the best conversations: All you have to do is enlighten the masses to the wonderful "conservative" Palin political stances, you don't have to show us your beverage of choice.
Oooooh, it's "dynamics" that you are interested in and you will employ the blind faith thingy as to what she does when in office. Go have another sip of your beverage of choice.
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That's what gets me, wake up and smell the coffee already. I must add that the same goes for those supporting the Dems.
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Gosh one might get the impression that it was "planned" or "orchestrated".
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Beck totally Screws Up Boiling Frog Metaphor
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You and me both girl. Interesting that it is the women on this forum that don't like her.
"Everyone who smokes marijuana should be shot " I put on the rubber gloves and hip boots to pop in and take a look see at the the old joint. The two above thread titles were at the top, which says bucket loads about what is ailing that venue right now. Yeesh.
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Perhaps I should have just summed up a typical conversation from a new poster and the denizens: "Hi, I'm new here, but I disagree with you about Sarah Palin and Obama." "You're a homo/ball-licker/asslicker/c^nt/TOOL." LOLOLOLOLOL! Great summation.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
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Arnold Palmer joining exclusive gold club Was Obama's birth out of wedlock? Three more must not read posts today.........
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IMO, by the time she got ran through that pencil-gallery led by William Kristol, et al, she would be so watered down that she would most likely be Bush- lite at best (barf!!). I see no hope for America outside of a bloody revolution, Ron Paul was the last gasp of sanity left to us.
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the RNCFR knew who and what madam mukluk was before they tapped her for McInsane's running mate, they had complete control of her from the get go, dupes and pratt house prostitutes are the only ones who call her an outsider.
Beck is a comedian, not a politician. You voted for the asshat who thinks he visited 57 states.
You must be former J2/military. ?? Yes, I've walked the walk.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
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The media also attacks Hammity, but he'd be a disaster as POTUS! I don't see it as a comprehensive defense - nothing more that what I said - that the press attacks would seem to be an indicator that she is not on the "short list" of preferred candidates of the criminal cabal currently running the country. How she would actually do as President, in the very unlikely event she was elected, it is an imponderable with insufficient data to base a firm conclusion. I think she would be better than Oh'bummer, or Duhbya, but how much better is not a quantity I'm willing to speculate on. I don't see her as "the Second Coming".
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
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Nah, Beck told the sweet 'The View' ladies he was a "commentator." And he only said that because they caught him fibbing about them to such an extreme he could never claim he checks his facts before using them. ;-) George Carlin of course was both a better comedian and commentator then Beck. I have watched very little of Beck myself, as I don't ever do television watching anymore. He's a flash in the pan in any event. As for Obama, give credit where credit's due; I worked on his campaign on the grass roots level, and enjoyed every moment of it. I even spent a few days as a registered Democrat which I once was so I could vote for him in the primary in Oregon too. I have re-registered as a pacific Green however, and working with Demos was enlightening in that I saw that despite we agreed on whom to vote for in November, I really could see definitively why I could never return to that party again. The topic of Barack Obama becomes too personal and so I don't come here to argue about him. I'm not here to do any version of BeAChooser's sort of crusade to stem an overwhelming sentiment of the majority of 4UM posters. I mean, that didn't work for George Armstrong Custer, so I prefer to agree to disagree where we do on Barack Obama and to listen to what you all have to say. I have learned not to come into a forum with such a big head of an ego I can't easily admit when I am wrong on the rare occasion I am, nor to stay angry at most people or to make things too personal. And I am not committed to working for or voting for Obama next time around. I worked the campaign as much for returning to something I used to do allot of and missed, and it was enjoyable and enervating meeting and working with so many folks. And when canvassing I never cut off and shushed anyone dumping angrily on the Demo ticket, because when I do that I want to hear what everyone I talk to has to say. As long as they didn't do any scapegoating of others because Obama upset them that is.
Wise move considering 4um was created by a core group who hold that both the Rs and Ds are vile politicians, unworthy of our support, never mind a vote. I could care less about Beck, although he did do a great job exposing the poison that is Acorn. And that Van Jones pelt on his belt looks cool. I just looked at Drudge. His book is beating Teddy Kennedy's release by 2 to 1. That's remarkable considering how the MSM has pimped Teddy's opus and ignored him.
Last question first - I'm more or less neutral on her and don't care one way or the other. It has interested me only because of the obvious attempts to kill her political career. I'm more or less a student of such manipulations. Since I like logic it kind of pops out at me. As far as turning things around that is a tall order. We are still at Step 0 - getting enough people aware enough to begin to do something. For now it is still a holding action by continuing to expose the lies and deceit AND very very importantly naming the names of those actually running the show e.g., Jacob Rothschild and Jay Rockefucker.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
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Isn't it more obvious that she did this herself when she quit the position she was elected to serve prior to the term ending? And, why? Because she couldn't take the heat. That doesn't add any merit to her ability to serve when/if elected, in fact, it speaks to the contrary. Hitching her wagon to McCain didn't do much for her politically either. Basically, it said that she would cow tow to any doctrine for the opportunity to further her political ambitions. That move was self-manipulation. She fooled some folks, but many were not so gullible. When shall we expect Sarah Palin to account for her own actions and not fall for this victim card?
Ah, an overt homosexual reference by liberator. What a...surprise. I'm truly sorry Goldi dashed your hopes of being her 'go to goy' by revealing her true feelings for Christians on that thread (of which I'm sure the Founders would have been proud) concerning Obama's penis. Your very public breakup was humiliating for you, I'm sure. To further rub salt (kosher, of course) in your wounds, none of your other buds that comprise the LP Brain Trussed showed up to get your back, not even the ever-present, loyal, if not usually lucid BTS. To add a priceless, if surreal icing on the cake, witness Goldi not grasping the irony of accusing Christians of being malarky fairy-tale believing bible thumpers all the while claiming to be a blood-lineal descendant and adherent (dream revealed, IIRC) of a primitive religion whose covenant with God involves, among other things, rainbows and cutting the tips off their dicks.
i haven't seen or heard her say one thing that convinces me that she's not a neocon--war on terror advocate to the hilt--an advocate of mcCain's amnesty-- travels to the UN meeting accompanied by randy scheumann. if she's a true conservative, why not hitch her wagon to the Pauls and Peter Schiff and any other independents or Rs of that ilk?
Core group? Yes, people don't like to call cliques cliques. So it goes. I know as well that 4UM is for free speech, and that like it or not, people who are both R and D do not partake the process with a sinister purpose. Many who run things perhaps, but I don't have problems with those working any side of the main political party route. Strong arming and manipulating people not to exercise their political prerogatives. now that is scary. I would rather defend another's right to say have a love fest over Sarah Palin than to take away their right to do so. That is one of my strongest political beliefs; the right to free speech, and the right to exercise the political efficacy of one's choice. As for your 'core group,' it doesn't bother me like the pet political poodles Goldi has cultivated at el pee do. The posting here is far superior to what is spewed in Goldi's mess. But to the extent any group shuns or suppresses other points of views is the degree at which the group think is going to be wrong in general as they size up the political world in general and on specific issues. And that's true of any forum's 'core group' anywhere on the Internet, not just here.
A core group began this forum after we left FU. Can you tell me any other forum where this isn't the case?
Isn't it more obvious that she did this herself when she quit the position she was elected to serve prior to the term ending? And, why? Because she couldn't take the heat. That doesn't add any merit to her ability to serve when/if elected, in fact, it speaks to the contrary. Actually I think her decision to resign the Governorship was possibly an astute move as it took her out of the crosshairs and made her a more difficult target. As Governor she would have been tied down and harried by any little misstep she made. It also got her even more national exposure - particularly with all the speculations. I think the Sarah Palin who accepted the nod from McNutz is not now the same Sarah Palin neophyte on the national scene. She was basically a local NeoCon little known outside of her own state. The national exposure of being on the ticket is what made her a National Figure. I also think it was a bit of a wake-up call for her in that she seems to have caught on quickly that she and McNutz were supposed to lose - were programmed to lose to foster the impression of a dynamic win by Oh'bummer. She appears to have not been too fond of the idea of being set-up as a patsy and thus started speaking out of school - which got her in trouble with the McNutz "handlers" who started calling her a "loose cannon" - off the record of course. There is more going on here than immediately meets the eye. The old "wheels within wheels" routine.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
I speak only of a sort of closed mindedness any group has to guard against. Defensiveness is not needed. I remember the start of this forum and the early days at el pee. Pretty much every forum I know has evolved from groups like you say, or from smaller forums started at free hosting sites like ezBoard.com used to be. Thy this is even so of scoundrels such as the clown posse when they were around. And this was a group that relished being a clique, and this embrace of their dark side is one thing that helped do them in.
I think "core" group is more accurate than clique. A clique implies a popularity contest and if there is one thing most of the people who post here are not doing is trying to win "Miss Congeniality". A clique implies also a closed group and I don't think 4um is a closed group. More voices are welcome. While I like the people here cross fertilization of ideas and being challenged to think is one of the plus points of attending a forum. Freeptardia and El Pee are becoming monotones and thus monotonous. Besides Goldi-Pox and Rimjob's hypocrisy rub me the wrong way - I despise hypocrites. I think JT's comment the closer approximation of reality - a lot of the obstreperous and cantankerous people who post here while they are diverse do a share majority view that as far as the R's and D's go - "A pox upon both their houses".
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Good post, just remember I didn't use the word to label the group, All groups have to guard against clique-like behavior and trapping, which was essentially my point. Irony and even dry humor are hard to get across in a text post, and I'm especially bad with dry humor at that. I have no ax to grind nor problem with '4UM pioneers.' ;-)
Aaaw, are poor widdle US_GRANT's posts limited by Goldi? Bwaahaa! Tssk...As a recycled sh*t-stirring Leftist AGENT_PROVOCATEUR at Liberty Post, how's that working out for ya, Cupcake? Geez, and you just returned. You would think licking 0bama's nuts over there would be appreciated a bit more. Btw - loooove your painstakingly detailed critique of the several LP posters of whom you've whined about earlier on this thread (boo-hoo.) Who hurt you again? "Snuffy, Celeste, Danko, Itzl, e_type_jig, et al...Murron"? Oh, and of course - liberator. Will you ever forgive me for smackin' you around? "I'm truly sorry Goldi dashed your hopes of being her 'go to goy' by revealing her true feelings for Christians on that thread (of which I'm sure the Founders would have been proud) concerning Obama's penis. Your very public breakup was humiliating for you, I'm sure." I am truly flattered knowing that you have slavishly paid that much attention to my posts in that thread (my, I'm blushing.) Oh, yeah - the "public breakup." I guess that means there's chance for you, Cupcake. Just like the old days, eh? Lol...
Irony and even dry humor are hard to get across in a text post, and I'm especially bad with dry humor at that. I have no ax to grind nor problem with '4UM pioneers.' ;-) Thank you and got it. Yes sometimes humor can be hard to convey in a typewritten post where intonation and a wry twist just don't come across too easily. I've experienced the same thing - intending to be humorous and vice versa and being taken vice versa or the other way around.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
I guess we all ought to embrace a White-Hating Marxist-Fascist and his Leftist supporters whose agenda is to destroy (aka "fundamentally change") the USA, eh Mikey? How close-minded of us.
You really are good. Please advise Libby how to post an image as his tagline. Thanks.
Not that you want to be bombastic or anything like that.
Hey, it's kinda' quiet tonight, where's buckeroo
I don't know. Maybe he's shooting nutria down at the Salton Sea dreaming of stiff drinks and soft strippers. Just be assured, wherever Buck is, he's there.
You were the one suggesting "close-mindedness" was a characteristic that had to be "guard[ed] against," but now I'm considered "bombastic" for pointing out the dangers of blindly worshiping accepting the Marxist rhetoric of 0bama?
Down at the Animal Shelter filling out the paperwork for adopting 50 or so cats....Before that was his trip to ACE Hardware for 50 burlap sacks. :-)
Freddy, I dunno what you've been guzzling today, but I'm impressed by your stamina.
You're good. LOL Fred Mertz posted on 2009-09-30 11:38:51 ET #99. To: Samuel Gray (#88) You really are good... Fred Mertz posted on 2009-09-30 22:13:40 ET That "good," eh Freddy? Easy on the bed springs big fella.
I like that one. And I totally agree.
Well now, your well worn and preposterous rhetoric was amusing to me. And I myself am known on occasion to be a wee bit bombastic, so how could I not offer the professional courtesy of a complement to you? In fact, I would say it was the least I could do.
hehehehehe. while i agree with you, i had to laugh at your two descriptors. ;)
In fact, I would say it was the least I could do. Silly me - here I was being feted.... (Is this where I get hit by a cream pie?)
Then I am amply rewarded for my attempt at humor. "An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Astute only if you buy into this silly victim mentality. I don't. More difficult target? Not really, no matter what she does she enjoys the glare of the spotlight she so desparately desired and that's not always the best light. When you put yourself and your family in the spotlight, prepare for the glare. That's a no-brainer. Had she been astute, she would have bit her lip and shut her mouth instead of calling a press conference and more media attention to matters she deemed frivolous. No wonder that strategy failed miserably and continues to fail. As governor, she would be tied to HER RESPONSIBILITY to serve the people who elected her at an ugly time when her state has lost a lot of revenue. She had work to do......obviously that work was too difficult to endure with all the media scrutiny (excuse me while I cry a tear). She faced a rough re-election with no petro dollars flowing into Alaska to pay the constituents. Some conservative........NOT. She whines as if she is the only governor ever to endure media scrutiny, but she need only look into the POS Gov. Gibbons in NV to find that she is NOT the lone ranger. BTW, conservatives aren't victims who quit when the going gets tough. How can you fall for this victim routine, OI? An astute move.......lol
Nope. And actions speak louder than words, even as her words can make one cringe. She will whore her political ideology to the highest bidder, hence the wagon hitch to McCain. Paul and Schiff aren't whores for anybody. They have conviction and motives beyond political aspirations or corporate campaign funds that propel them to serve. Palin isn't in their league.
The Hispanic gangs rioted and fought each other openly at the Alaska State fair this year. Not much of it made the news. The so called good Alaskan citizens on LP poo poo'd it as trivial.
Alaska?? What the hell are mexicons doing up there??
_________________________________________________________________________ Evidently working for the oil campanies and the fishing fleet, and selling drugs and doing crimes. Do you ever watch those Gangland programs on the History Channel? Well, they showcased Alaskan prisons on one episode. The prisons there are full of Hispanics.
Go easy on him, he's grieving. He's probably picked up the phone a half dozen times today to call Sally, only to hang up and think "I probably missed her call when I was trying to call HER." But, to be abandoned and be written off as a loser in his time of need by the likes of yukon? Well, one just doesn't get over that. Hell, Yukie's probably making a play for ol Moldy-Box right now...Florida/Alaska...fire/ice, j00k/k00k...
Incredible. Not only do you fly around in a paper airplane but you are a soothsayer as well. Too cool.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
How many cats did you "bag" bucky.?
I can not tell a lie. For the past three weeks I have seen none around my surroundings so there are no new reports to discuss. But when confronted with an animal pissing around my home, I use more efficient methods of elimination so as to be a kind person. I like that idea of automotive antifreeze/coolant mixed generously with some cat chicken delight. And they never come back after that last meal...... the kitties just go away hydrated and die somewhere.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
You're a sick person.
Oh sure I am sick. Yet, I don't lay with animals or whine over their deaths. I stand up on two legs completely oblivious to being a "kind" socialized person that you probably want to see. Mean, cruel and non-sympathetic to the woes of the world..... that is me wrapped upped in one sentence.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
You seen to overlook the fact that man is an "animal" too.
Oh I see your Darwinist perspective. In order to live in the world and enjoy our lives we must sleep with hairy creatures that have no conscience other than wanting a meal. You are looking for "proof" that you are better than other species while you lay with the flea infested critters on your bed while stroking their hairy backbones. This singular act must make you a GOD within your own mind.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
cruelty to animals is the most vile characteristic a person can possess, imo. most serial killers begin by abusing animals. that says a lot about you, buckeroo. it's too bad you've never known the love and affection of a companion animal. maybe your hardened heart would have been softened. you seem unable to feel any real compassion.
"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.
Oh, I see where you are coming from. My disdain over humans trapping and keeping animals as "friends" while those same stray animals are allowed to piss&shit around my surroundings is a bad attitude and therefore I maybe a serial killer. ROTFL. Keeping a kittie cat in your own house suggests volumes about you. You have to clean the critter while dealing with its day to day fecal matter and piss. And you think your day/day job slaving over a cat makes you free as a person .... "I just love my kitty" while it sheds hair and stincks all over your home?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
I'd be willing to bet a good sum that bucky here is just trying to get a rise out of the 4um. I highly doubt that he can be this much of an asshole in real life.
Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo I do agree with Bucky on this: animals aren't humans and to consider and treat them as substitutes IMHO keeps us going down that slippery slope.
I beg you to stop revealing my cover. We have only known each other about ten years. I enjoy playing, "devil's advocate." It has someways been fun and equivocates responses that I find important to why the world around us is crashing down. ;)
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Hmmm...How long will it take them to catch on, Cupcake?
You are a little late in your assessment: "What did the ancient Romans name their four-legged best friends? Lucius Iunius Moderatus Columella gives us a few recommended names in the section of his work on agriculture dealing with the rearing and training of dogs. Other likely sources used by the ancient Romans for dog names may have come from literature, in much the same way that people today draw on literature for naming their dogs. Just as many a slave with a Greek name might be found in an ancient Roman household (with Greek names either originally belonging to the slaves or names fancifully taken from history and legend and bestowed by the masters), the Romans appeared also to have taken a shine to Greek names for their dogs, as illustrated by Columella. Perhaps they thought these Greek names sounded classier? Presented here is a list of dog names in both Greek and Latin, as recorded by various Roman writers. Each name is followed by gender, meaning, cited source, and a brief, descriptive quote from that source." _________________________________________________________________________ where are those romans now?
_________________________________________________________________________ Yeah I'd like to know that too. I do know that if it hadn't been for them learning to raise and eat those poor wittle cuddly wabbits (the US developed varieties no less) they might have ALL starved during WWII.
Los Angeles Animal services euthanized 19,617 dogs and cats in 2008. "The years 2006 through 2008 are the three lowest euthanasia rates in the Department's history. The worst year was 1971 when 110,835 dogs and cats were euthanized." "In seven years, one female cat and her offspring can theoretically produce 420,000 cats." Around here it's considered irresponsible not to get your cats "fixed." But what did they do 100 years ago? I wonder if the socially accepted solution was to put a new litter in a burlap bag and drown them.
that is not a roman it is dickcheesey's cousin in a toga.
in the Philippines we had a way to deal with excess canines one in which all parties left for the most part happy. every party I had where an excess canine was involved my yard dog would disappear for a day or two, just in case more than the planned amount of guests turned out. my yard dog bit a guy I used to work with; after returning from medical he asked me if the dog had had its shots. I said "are you kidding? it doesn't even have a name." never name what will most likely become a meal.
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#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1)
I thought I posted something to that thread.
#3. To: abraxas (#0)
"Extremism is taking over on all accounts and politically wise good people have no side to hang on too anymore." ~ JustUsealittleBrainPower posted on 2009-09-29 20:41:22 ET Reply Trace
#4. To: abraxas (#0)
#5. To: Eric Stratton (#4)
But I'm finding more tards GOP-suppositories over there daily.
#6. To: Fred Mertz (#1)
I thought I posted something to that thread.
#7. To: abraxas (#5)
I've noted that there aren't as many articles posted, with an echo chamber of GOP tards for commentary.
#8. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#7)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#9. To: X-15 (#8)
#10. To: abraxas (#5)
#11. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#7)
#12. To: IDon'tThinkSo, abraxas, Fred Mertz, Liberator, TooConservative (#7)
#13. To: Eric Stratton (#11)
#14. To: Samuel Gray (#13)
#15. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#7)
Since the media of record there is World Nut Daily, it's also one of the main sources of articles. How many Obama birth certificate articles can they crank out in a week?
#16. To: Eric Stratton (#10)
What gets me is the number of people there that seem to be dupes, people that now understand that both Bush's screwed us over while feigning conservatism, but yet there they go, running, not walking, back to the GOP trough of slop that is out there.
#17. To: Eric Stratton, IDon'tThinkSo (#11)
Sadly, largely accurately summed up.
#18. To: Liberator (#15)
#19. To: Eric Stratton (#12)
Generally speaking, far too much of the so-called conservative media cannot seem to get out of the health care shell or the racism shell when so much more is going on.
#20. To: Liberator (#16)
#21. To: Samuel Gray (#13)
#22. To: Liberator (#19)
#23. To: Liberator (#17)
#24. To: Eric Stratton (#20)
I'm just wondering when the first Americans are going to be killed as a result of all of this, on American soil.
#25. To: Eric Stratton (#22)
#26. To: Eric Stratton (#20)
I'm just wondering when the first Americans are going to be killed as a result of all of this, on American soil.
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#18)
Isn't it odd that the people who find the birth cert issue most disturbing never stop talking about it?
#28. To: Eric Stratton (#20)
We are in agreement, except that the GOP won't get a face lift.
#29. To: christine, Samuel Gray, aka US_GRANT at LP (#21)
LOLOL. you sure haven't lost your wit. ;P
#30. To: Samuel Gray (#13)
Seriously, how many times can Schlocky-Lox screaming "AGENT PROVOCATEUR!!" at anyone with differing opinions be considered funny before it's just pathetic?
#31. To: Eric Stratton (#22)
He's [0bama] politically washed up already, but "politics" ain't gonna be what it was. Where have you been?
#32. To: abraxas, Eric Stratton, Twenty Twelve, Wudidiz, christine, Rotara, all (#5)
I opted out on that last round of banning. The flame wars, exchange of insults and hypocricy gets old. I lurk on occassion, but don't post. I've noted that there aren't as many articles posted, with an echo chamber of GOP tards for commentary.
#33. To: Eric Stratton (#23)
It's a Palin love fest for starters. Junior II.
#34. To: Samuel Gray (#13)
#35. To: Liberator (#33)
She is an OUT-SIDER. Capece?? She was chosen by McStain AS A LARK. A JOKE. It backfired on the RNC Elites. Why don't you get it?
#36. To: Eric Stratton (#14)
Disaster, abject disaster, lies at the end of this tunnel, yet people in general are clueless and the government is behaving as if there is no problem as the Sheople merely bleat repetitively.
#37. To: Liberator, Cynicom, all (#33)
It's a Palin love fest for starters. Junior II.
#38. To: Original_Intent (#36)
........Without a major infusion of energy and time by caring people this culture is doomed. It is not all gloom and doom and there are groups and organizations "doing something about it" but you'll never hear about it on the PsyOps Machine blaring its constant message of Obey and Consume.
#39. To: Original_Intent (#37)
#40. To: mininggold (#38)
#41. To: mininggold (#39)
#42. To: Original_Intent (#40)
And each of those commercials is carefully crafted (at least on the national level) to work below the level of normal awareness to implant the "message" and push the right "buttons" to evoke the desired response. It is very sophisticated mental programming and consuming hour upon hour of it does take a toll. I
#43. To: mininggold (#42)
#44. To: mininggold (#35)
You are such a GOP troll.
#45. To: Original_Intent (#37)
While I have my points of disagreement she does seem to be a genuine article. That is what scares the PTB - the fear that a popular movement could coalesce around her - that is resistant to their PsyOps campaigns and intent on reclaiming the country from the crooks and scum now running it into the ground.
#46. To: Liberator (#44)
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#47. To: Liberator (#44)
She's [Palin] a pol and as such is entitled to be discussed.
#48. To: Original_Intent (#41)
My reaction to her, and opinions, are based more on what the media has done to attack her and distort what she has said. That is my barometer - that the media is trying to marginalize and discredit her are flags that suggest that, regardless of whether I agree with her on anything, that she is likely genuine.
#49. To: mininggold (#47)
Yet you always reply like a troll. LOLOLOL
#50. To: Liberator (#49)
#51. To: mininggold (#47)
She's [Palin] a pol and as such is entitled to be discussed.
#52. To: Liberator (#51)
So of all my reply and explaining the dynamics of Palin, all you were able to focus on was the above?
#53. To: mininggold (#50)
Heh..... as a troll probably working from Turkey...
#54. To: Liberator (#53)
Huh? What that? Do you hear your best friend calling you?
#55. To: Liberator (#51)
So of all my reply and explaining the dynamics of Palin, all you were able to focus on was the above?
#56. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
#57. To: Eric Stratton (#10)
people that now understand that both Bush's screwed us over while feigning conservatism, but yet there they go, running, not walking, back to the GOP trough of slop that is out there.
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#58. To: SonOfLiberty (#25)
#59. To: Eric Stratton (#12)
Generally speaking, far too much of the so-called conservative media cannot seem to get out of the health care shell or the racism shell when so much more is going on
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#60. To: Liberator (#28)
#61. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
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#62. To: Liberator (#31)
#63. To: Liberator (#33)
#64. To: mininggold, Original_Intent (#39)
I have REASONS why I dislike her.
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#65. To: abraxas (#0)
"Megan Fox plastic surgery - Does it make her less attractive? "
#66. To: mininggold (#35)
#67. To: Original_Intent (#36)
#68. To: Samuel Gray (#13)
Snuffy, Celeste, Danko, Itzl, e_type_jig, et al...they're all more suited for www.peopleofwalmart.com, and the comments are funnier. One of 'em (Celeste) is running around yelling for people to 'succeed' from the union, while Danko is rolling rocks and lamenting how he wishes he had the ability to do stuff because he has the knowledge, poor ol' Izzy just itching to throw the yoke of SERFdumb by the ruling EEE-lites, if he just had the sack to do so. Top it off with SnuffyJoe yelling Commie IMO and poor old Murron writing her screeds on the insides of Lucky Strike wrappers, then typing them in from the Wi-Fi at the East Cousinfuck General Store like dispatches from the war-torn front (SPIT!!), and that's pretty much the whole shebang.
#69. To: Original_Intent (#37)
#70. To: mininggold (#39)
#71. To: Original_Intent (#41)
#72. To: Ferret Mike (#65)
Rush Limbaugh Has A Female Clone? Her Name Is Susan. Pt.1
#73. To: farmfriend (#57)
#74. To: Eric Stratton (#69)
Allow me to sum up however by asking what, specifically, do you see Palin doing as POTUS that would turn us back in the right direction to a relevant extent?!
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#75. To: farmfriend (#59)
#76. To: X-15 (#74)
#77. To: mininggold (#35)
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
#78. To: Ferret Mike (#61)
#79. To: Eric Stratton (#67)
PsyOps is right.
#80. To: Original_Intent (#79)
#81. To: Eric Stratton (#71)
Do you think that's smart/wise in seeming comprehensive defense of her?
#82. To: Original_Intent (#81)
#83. To: Jethro Tull (#78)
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#84. To: Ferret Mike (#83)
The topic of Barack Obama becomes too personal and so I don't come here to argue about him. I'm not here to do any version of BeAChooser's sort of crusade to stem an overwhelming sentiment of the majority of 4UM posters.
#85. To: Eric Stratton (#82)
#86. To: Original_Intent (#85)
#87. To: Original_Intent (#85)
It has interested me only because of the obvious attempts to kill her political career.
#88. To: Liberator (#30)
(Edited)
#89. To: abraxas (#87)
#90. To: Jethro Tull (#84)
#91. To: Ferret Mike (#90)
Core group? Yes, people don't like to call cliques cliques. So it goes.
#92. To: abraxas (#87)
It has interested me only because of the obvious attempts to kill her political career.
Hitching her wagon to McCain didn't do much for her politically either. Basically, it said that she would cow tow to any doctrine for the opportunity to further her political ambitions. That move was self-manipulation. She fooled some folks, but many were not so gullible. When shall we expect Sarah Palin to account for her own actions and not fall for this victim card?
#93. To: Jethro Tull (#91)
#94. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull (#90)
#95. To: Original_Intent (#94)
#96. To: Samuel Gray, aka US_GRANT, aka Cupcake (#88)
#97. To: Ferret Mike (#95)
Good post, just remember I didn't use the word to label the group, All groups have to guard against clique-like behavior and trapping, which was essentially my point.
#98. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull (#93)
I speak only of a sort of closed mindedness any group has to guard against.
#99. To: Samuel Gray (#88)
#100. To: Liberator (#98)
#101. To: Ferret Mike, buckeroo (#100)
bombastic
#102. To: sizzlerguy (#101)
#103. To: Ferret Mike (#100)
Not that you want to be bombastic or anything like that.
#104. To: sizzlerguy, buckeroo (#101)
Hey, it's kinda' quiet tonight, where's buckeroo
#105. To: Fred Mertz (#99)
Please advise Libby how to post an image as his tagline. Thanks.
#106. To: Fred Mertz, US_GRANT, aka Cupcake (#99)
#34. To: Samuel Gray (#13)
#107. To: Eric Stratton (#73)
As I like to use as an analogy, the two-party system is like a sailboat that tacks into the wind. The overall direction is the same, say north, but sometimes the sailboat moves NE, sometimes it moves NW, but all in all at the end of the day, week, month, year, decade, millenium, it's due north from where it began.
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#108. To: Liberator (#103)
#109. To: Original_Intent (#94)
I think JT's comment the closer approximation of reality - a lot of the obstreperous and cantankerous people who post here while they are diverse do a share majority view that as far as the R's and D's go - "A pox upon both their houses".
#110. To: Ferret Mike (#108)
I myself am known on occasion to be a wee bit bombastic, so how could I not offer the professional courtesy of a complement to you?
#111. To: christine (#109)
i had to laugh at your two descriptors. ;)
#112. To: Original_Intent (#92)
Actually I think her decision to resign the Governorship was possibly an astute move as it took her out of the crosshairs and made her a more difficult target. As Governor she would have been tied down and harried by any little misstep she made. It also got her even more national exposure - particularly with all the speculations.
#113. To: christine (#89)
i haven't seen or heard her say one thing that convinces me that she's not a neocon--war on terror advocate to the hilt--an advocate of mcCain's amnesty-- travels to the UN meeting accompanied by randy scheumann. if she's a true conservative, why not hitch her wagon to the Pauls and Peter Schiff and any other independents or Rs of that ilk?
#114. To: Eric Stratton (#69)
(Edited)
i.e., you cannot say "she'd close/secure the borders," because as Gov. of AK she spoke "diversity talk" with decisions to accommodate illegals. So clearly if she believed that, she wouldn't have done that. So that cannot be said.
#115. To: mininggold (#114)
The Hispanic gangs rioted and fought each other openly at the Alaska State fair this year.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#116. To: X-15 (#115)
Alaska?? What the hell are mexicons doing up there??
#117. To: Fred Mertz (#99)
(Edited)
Please advise Libby
#118. To: Liberator (#104)
#119. To: buckeroo (#118)
#120. To: sizzlerguy (#119)
#121. To: buckeroo (#120)
#122. To: sizzlerguy (#121)
#123. To: buckeroo (#122)
#124. To: sizzlerguy (#123)
#125. To: buckeroo (#120)
I use more efficient methods of elimination so as to be a kind person. I like that idea of automotive antifreeze/coolant mixed generously with some cat chicken delight. And they never come back after that last meal...... the kitties just go away hydrated and die somewhere.
#126. To: christine (#125)
#127. To: christine, buckeroo (#125)
Let me get this straight.
#128. To: Critter (#127)
d be willing to bet a good sum that bucky here is just trying to get a rise out of the 4um. I highly doubt that he can be this much of an asshole in real life.
#129. To: Critter (#127)
#130. To: Samuel Gray, aka US_GRANT, aka Brian_Griffin (#117)
#131. To: mininggold, buckeroo (#128)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#132. To: X-15 (#131)
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
#133. To: IRTorqued (#132)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#134. To: IRTorqued (#132)
where are those romans now?
#135. To: buckeroo (#129)
#136. To: X-15 (#133)
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
#137. To: Big Meanie (#135)
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
#138. To: mininggold (#114)
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