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Title: Lindsey Graham Hits Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly
Source: CBS
URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/1 ... calhotsheet/entry5356087.shtml
Published: Oct 2, 2009
Author: CBS
Post Date: 2009-10-02 11:16:48 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 404
Comments: 16

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham Thursday blamed the lack of civility in today's political discourse on voters' willingness to send confrontational representatives to Washington as well as the 24-hour news cycle, talk radio and organizations like MoveOn.org.

"Can you imagine writing the Constitution today?" Graham said during a conversation with Jeffrey Goldberg at The First Draft of History, a conference in Washington, D.C. produced by The Atlantic, the Newseum and The Aspen Institute. He speculated that Fox News host Bill O'Reilly would complain that "Ben Franklin [is] giving in on something."

Asked what he thinks of another Fox News personality, Glenn Beck, Graham replied, "Only in America can you make that much money crying."

He said Beck is "not aligned with any party as far as I can tell. He's aligned with cynicism. And there's always been a market for cynicism."

"But we became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers," he added.

Graham addressed a variety of topics during the discussion, including John McCain's loss in the 2008 election. Graham, a close ally of McCain, had been a central figure in his campaign. He said that the collapse of the economy had been "game, set and match," essentially guaranteeing that then-Senator Barack Obama would win the election.

Graham lauded Mr. Obama for energizing young people and also engaging Hispanic voters, which he said Republicans had turned off with rhetoric on immigration "coming out of certain quarters of our party."

He said Mr. Obama had passed the "ready to be commander-in-chief test" during the debates and that the Democrat had been helped by the unpopularity of then-President Bush and his policies. "The Republican label was very much tainted," Graham said.

The senator suggested his party is set for a comeback, however, thanks to Democrats' performance since the president took office.

"We're back in the game because they're screwing up," he said. "It's nothing we've done." Graham pointed to the way Democrats are "playing to stereotypes on spending" and other issues, and said "it looks like 2010 could be good," a reference to the midterm elections.

Asked if former President Jimmy Carter was right in his assessment that much of the criticism of President Obama is rooted in racism, Graham said, "I don't think so."

"There [are] people in this country that are having a hard time reconciling the fact that we have a black president," he acknowledged.

But Graham said that many of the critics of the president would applaud Alan Keyes, the conservative African-American politician, which he pointed to as evidence that their criticism was rooted in ideology, not race.

Asked how he deals with fringe elements in his party, Graham said, "I go to a town hall meeting and say 'you're crazy' - in a respectful way." He said the so-called "birthers," who doubt that Mr. Obama was born in the United States, fall into that catergory.

Graham also said that torture does not work in the long run, calling the Abu Ghraib scandal "the biggest mistake we made in the war."

"The way you beat this enemy is you show differences at every moment," he said, despite the fact that "when you're trying to apply the Geneva Convention to al qaeda, people look at you like you're from the moon," since you're applying a standard to them that they would not apply to you.

Graham lamented the state of the Afghan government but suggested that America had no choice but to make the best of the situation. He said the answer to the question "are we going to let the Taliban come back" has to be "a definitive no."

"No matter how bad the Karzai government has been, and no matter how bad they will be in the future, it is not in our national interest" to let the Taliban regain a foothold in Afghanistan, he said.

Graham also said that Mr. Obama's number one goal has to be keeping Iran from attaining nuclear weapons.

"We're about to allow for the first time in modern history irrational people to have weapons of mass destruction," he said. "And that is not an acceptable outcome to me."

The Republican senator also signaled his support for Mr. Obama, who he said "has a plate full of unimaginable problems."

"Do I want some of his policies to fail? You better believe it," he said. "Do I want him to fail? No. Because he's my commander-in-chief."

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Graham, a close ally of McCain,

Gee, a liberal Republican doesn't like Glenn Beck and is calling him names. Imagine that.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-02   11:19:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

"Can you imagine writing the Constitution today?"

Yeah. Maybe the anti-federalists would win.

Redneck vs. cop: Redneck. Cop vs. n-word: Cop. n-word vs. white guilter: n-word. Being a lawyer knocks you down a peg, so redneck lawyer vs. cop and n-word lawyer vs. white guilter are toss-ups. White guilter lawyers are the lowest form of life.
Open season on them.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-10-02   11:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

Asked what he thinks of another Fox News personality, Glenn Beck, Graham replied, "Only in America can you make that much money crying."

Only in America can Lindsey Graham be a Senator while biting his pillow AND crying simultaneously.....

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X-15  posted on  2009-10-02   11:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: X-15 (#3)

Damnit. I wish I had thought to say that first.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-02   11:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-10-02   11:34:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#0)

Asked how he deals with fringe elements in his party, Graham said, "I go to a town hall meeting and say 'you're crazy' - in a respectful way." He said the so-called "birthers," who doubt that Mr. Obama was born in the United States, fall into that catergory.

finis

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-02   12:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brian S (#0)

"But we became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers," he added.

Of course no one asked him what that mealy-mouthed quotation was supposed to mean. Believers of what you homosexual, war-mongering neoconservative piece of human excrement? Believers of big government? Believers of UFO's? Believers of Leprechauns? WTF does that actually mean?

Considering the type of person Lindsey Graham is, my guess is that he meant that we are a nation full of believers of government. We are a nation of people who believe everything these scum-sucking oligarchs tell us. And of course this is the kind of nation he and his traitorous buddies want.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-02   12:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#2)

Yeah. Maybe the anti-federalists would win.

Not a chance in hell. Most people do not even know who are what the federalists were, much less the anti-federalists, and that's just how the government wants it. If the educrats were to delve into the writings of both groups in high school or college, it would be as plain as the nose on our faces that the federalists were wrong and the anti-federalists were right. The two-party fraud can't and won't have that. It might make people think.

IIRC, when laid out side to side, more people today pick the Communist Manifesto over the Bill of Rights. If the Constitution were rewritten today, this country would be some sort of combination of Communist China and the more socialist countries of the EU. The American people are too lazy, irresponsible and immoral to live in freedom and liberty. They neither trust themselves nor their neighbors with it and would feel safer with the chains of the two party fraud around their necks.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-02   12:52:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SonOfLiberty, Liberator, Original_Intent, Lod, Eric Stratton, Jethro Tull, christine, packrat1145, mel_living, TooConservative, X-15, TwentyTwelve, Refinersfire, SonOfLiberty, palo verde, Lysander_Spooner, TommyTheMadArtist, abraxas, KinkoTheKlown, Flint (#1)

* Graham elaborated on something his good friend McCain said earlier in the day: He is worried about "the passions of cable TV" whipping up public emotions.''

"If you get rewarded for being a jerk you are going to keep doing it," he said, before labeling "Talk radio, MoveOn.org, and the 24-hour news cycle" as the main culprits in polarizing the nation.

* Lindsey Graham said Beck is "not aligned with any party as far as I can tell. He's aligned with cynicism. And there's always been a market for cynicism."

"But we became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers," he added.

* I'm here to tell you that those who think the president was not born in Hawaii are crazy," Graham said at a "First Draft of History'' conference sponsored by The Atlantic, The Aspen Institute and the Newseum in Washington.

The Pansy Grahamnesty is a mere limp-wristed turd. He and his little pink purse must GO.

****

"Civility" got us a Marxist usurper.

Up yours, Lindsey.

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beyond the sea  posted on  2009-10-06   1:34:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Hayek Fan (#7)

Considering the type of person Lindsey Graham is, my guess is that he meant that we are a nation full of believers of government. We are a nation of people who believe everything these scum-sucking oligarchs tell us. And of course this is the kind of nation he and his traitorous buddies want.

YES!

.... ping to previous post.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-10-06   1:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: beyond the sea (#9)

I'd pay serious green to see someone bitchslap Lady Lindsey. What a useless fruit.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-10-06   8:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Hayek Fan (#7)

Considering the type of person Lindsey Graham is, my guess is that he meant that we are a nation full of believers of government. We are a nation of people who believe everything these scum-sucking oligarchs tell us. And of course this is the kind of nation he and his traitorous buddies want.

I was ready to refute your cynical views but found I couldn't.

You're right.

What is bizarre to me is why the GOP thinks it can play the lib game as well as Dem libs can. Or why anyone would give them any credence (or votes) for doing so. The result of recent elections shows there is no real customer base for what the GOP is selling.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-10-06   8:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Brian S (#0)

Graham also said that Mr. Obama's number one goal has to be keeping Iran from attaining nuclear weapons.

Super. O'boingo's number two goal has been to prevent the sun rising in the West and setting in the East.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-10-06   8:41:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#12)

What is bizarre to me is why the GOP thinks it can play the lib game as well as Dem libs can. Or why anyone would give them any credence (or votes) for doing so. The result of recent elections shows there is no real customer base for what the GOP is selling.

My guess is that the Republicrat Party understand that the white conservative voter as a percentage of the population will continue to decrease on a yearly basis while the more big government-loving minority population will increase, so they are setting themselves up for the future.

But then again, it could be that this is the direction that the Republicrat grass roots wants them to take. Look who CPAC picked as the likely presidential candidate in 2010 - Mitt Romney. There aren't too many Republicrats to the left of ol' Mitt. Also, look at how the grassroots awarded the Republicrats with reelection during this last election cycle. The overwhelming majority of them were reelected.

As an example, I live in Springfield, MO. Roy Blunt is my Congresscum. He co-wrote the free meds for geezers legislation and pushed very hard for it here in SW MO with overwhelming support by so-called conservatives. He was the number three guy in Congress and walked lock-step with every single thing Bush Co did and was a leader in pushing all of the big government legislation passed by the Republicrat Party. Even so, he beat his conservative opponent in the Republican Primaries by a large margin and then beat the Democan in the general election by taking more than 70% of the vote. And this area of Missouri is said to be one of the most conservative areas of the whole country! LOL!

The only thing these bozo's want to conserve is the goodies they are getting from Uncle Sammy.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-06   10:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Brian S (#0)

"Can you imagine writing the Constitution today?" Graham said

Graham you are a pathetic piece of shit. If you lived in the founders day you would be DEAD. They would have challenged you to a duel and shot your pathetic as right between the eyes. Go die you worthless piece of shit. Get hit by a car or catch aids or something worse.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-10-06   10:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#11)

I'd pay serious green to see someone bitchslap Lady Lindsey.

Me too.

;-)

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-10-06   14:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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