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Title: Anybody had the swine flu?
Source: abraxas
URL Source: http://dizzy
Published: Oct 4, 2009
Author: abraxas
Post Date: 2009-10-04 12:51:03 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 1105
Comments: 104

Does anybody on 4um believe that they may have had the swine flu?

I'm thinking that I have it. It started out like a normal cold, coughing, plugged up head and nose. It seemed to be lasting longer than normal, as I'm generally extremely healthy. However, I have kids in gradeschool, attend college and have been student teaching at the high school. Plenty of places to contract a nasty bug. Precautions had been taken as I upped by vitamin D over a month ago.

On Saturday I took a turn for the worse. Chills came on. I ate little breakfast then began to have horrible back pain with stomach cramps. This was awful, to the point where I was laying on the tile floor rolled up in the fetal position. My breakfast and I soon parted ways. I slept for about three hours and then felt a little better. Tried a tiny bit of homemade chicken soup a couple of hours later, but the cramps and back pain returned.

Now, I'm afraid to eat a thing. Feeling a tad bit light headed. Still battling the head and chest congestion with a slight fever. Frankly, if this is swine flu, I'm glad to take it on and get it over with, hopefully build some immunity. I know that many 4um folks are highly educated on the swine flu. I'm wondering if my symptoms fit the bill.

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#28. To: IRTorqued (#27)

Paul Newman's lemonade is without the high fructose corn syrup, and is a cheap enough substitute to use for this IMO.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-10-04   15:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#28)

that or any other drink that does not in effect line the pockets of ADM.

and unless the product says made from cane sugar one can count on the sugar coming from genetically modified beets.


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IRTorqued  posted on  2009-10-04   16:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: abraxas (#0)

I think my kids have it this week. My 18 year old is pretty well on the mend. The 13 year old is doing better but I need to get more stuff down her.

We have and are using the following

Colloidal Silver-Natural Antibiotic helps immune system. I make my own.

Acidophiles-To make sure they still have good bacteria in their bodies

Star Anise-The active ingredient is Tami-flu without all the garbage.

Hyssop Oil-Great for the lungs. I put it on their chest and pillows at times. The other day when my son said his lungs hurt I steamed it for him along with some peppermint. He got the junk out and felt better within a few hours.

Cayenne Fruit-I get this in pill form at Walmart. It raises the body temperature and helps the immune system.

Vitamin D-3- I have it on order. I don't have any yet.

Best of luck. I hope you feel better soon. We really need to learn to take care of ourselves and not rely on doctors or the pharmaceutical industry.

Even if someone could get you some peppermint, cayenne fruit, and vitamin D3 I believe it will help you some. Especially steaming the peppermint for congestion and if you can get some hyssop oil from the vitamin store it really helps also. I also put it on my youngest pillow when she has a cough and lung junk. It quiets her cough down for the night.

I am attempting something with my Thyroid to kick it in. I have had an under active Thyroid for years. The FDA is playing games with the company that makes Amour Thyroid (a natural thyroid) They want everyone on the synthetic thyroid. There are shortages all over the country of natural thyroid. I had to order my last prescription from a Walmart in another state.

What I am attempting to do can be dangerous as if my thyroid or the other natural stuff kicks in my thyroid it can cause a heart attack. I am blessed in the fact that I have some muscle relaxers and as I had to do yesterday can take one if my heart starts (as it did yesterday) beating rapidly. Today I will lower my dose of the thyroid medicine or attempt to take none at all.

I know with cholesterol they had put my husband on Staten drugs. After hearing what the Staten drugs did to the liver we changed and put him on Red Yeast Rice and Fish Oil. His level of cholesterol was VERY high but since he has been taking the Red Yeast Rice and Fish Oil he is fine without killing his liver.

Get Well SOON!

MiracleRose7  posted on  2009-10-04   16:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: MiracleRose7 (#30)

Great information, thanks.

I put a dab of either spearmint or peppermint oil under each nostril to clear things up.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-04   16:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lod (#31)

Your welcome. Peppermint is really good for clearing stuff up.

MiracleRose7  posted on  2009-10-04   16:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: MiracleRose7. all (#32)

I support the organic family growers at getmint.com who are trying to save their farm.

Checking my link -

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They may already be down. I'll try to call 800.345.9068 - well, that still works.

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Lod  posted on  2009-10-04   16:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: MiracleRose7 (#30)

Thank you MircleRose!! Earlier today I attempted to take my Vid D and could only hold it down a couple of hours, then came the horrible cramps with back ache. I couldn't keep it down. That's the problem I'm facing right now. Anything that I try to take creates this reaction. I'm having trouble holding water.

I'll try the peppermint in the humidifier though. That sounds good to assist with coughing. One other remedy that seems to be helping is Vicks on the bottoms of my feet with warm socks. Sounds strange, but it really helps.

I'm making a list to have the remedies you shared on hand if my girls come down with this. You're assistance is greatly appreciated. : )

My father has that CPOD and some cancer in the lungs. Would Hyssop Oil be helpful for him as well? He's on the oxygen and keeps getting holes in the lung, which is very painful.

abraxas  posted on  2009-10-04   20:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: abraxas (#34)

One other remedy that seems to be helping is Vicks on the bottoms of my feet with warm socks.

I hear that Glenn Beck uses that remedy in real time on his show with FOX.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-04   20:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: abraxas (#34)

I'm having trouble holding water.

Dang - this is serious.

Have you tried a blend of whiskey, honey and cinnamon?

We've got to get you over the hump on this one.

One last one that some folks swear by - the coffee enema?

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-10-04   20:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: abraxas (#0)

This was awful, to the point where I was laying on the tile floor rolled up in the fetal position. My breakfast and I soon parted ways.

oh boy. that sounds horrible. nausea is the absolute worst malady for me. i just want to commit hari kari. from all i've read, your symptoms fit the bill, but i understand a doctor has to test to differentiate between swine and the usual seasonal flu.

"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.

christine  posted on  2009-10-04   20:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Julz (#17)

same here. i don't think i've ever had the flu and i can't remember the last time i was even sick. looking for wood to knock on.

"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.

christine  posted on  2009-10-04   20:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Lod (#36)

One last one that some folks swear by - the coffee enema?

Decaf or regular?

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tom007  posted on  2009-10-04   20:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: abraxas (#0)

My aunt got it a couple of months ago, and she recovered fairly rapid, no hospitalisation and certainly no Tamilflu.

POSTING FROM INSIDE THE NEW IRON CURTAIN

irishthatcherite  posted on  2009-10-04   20:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: irishthatcherite (#40)

POSTING FROM INSIDE THE NEW IRON CURTAIN

I am pissed at my friends and family on the emerald island. A pile of leftist leaning scalawags to be sure. Man, these next few weeks are going to be demonstrations everywhere.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-04   20:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: tom007 (#39)

Decaf or regular?

;-)

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Lod  posted on  2009-10-04   20:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: MiracleRose7 (#30)

Hyssop Oil

that's one i'd never heard of. thanks for the very informative post, Rose.

"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."--Charles Lindbergh, Sr.

christine  posted on  2009-10-04   20:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#41)

I am pissed at my friends and family on the emerald island. A pile of leftist leaning scalawags to be sure. Man, these next few weeks are going to be demonstrations everywhere.

Wait til the Irish people realise they were lied to about Lisbon creating jobs!

Only trouble is we won't be dealing with the Gardai or the Irish Defence Forces - the European Gendermarie Force will be drafted in to quell any disturbances - with lethal force, like modern day Black-and-Tans.

POSTING FROM INSIDE THE NEW IRON CURTAIN

irishthatcherite  posted on  2009-10-04   20:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: irishthatcherite (#40)

POSTING FROM INSIDE THE NEW IRON CURTAIN

So what did I miss, IT?

What EU evil was your fair land strong-armed into buying?

Liberator  posted on  2009-10-04   20:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: abraxas (#0)

Treat it like any other flu (as you're doing.)

Chicken soup, rest, bland food, rest...and stay away from photos of Manchelle BigFoot Robinson. You don't need the nightmares...

Liberator  posted on  2009-10-04   21:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: MiracleRose7 (#30)

Good post...

Curious about your thyroid "recipe." Iodine part of it?

Liberator  posted on  2009-10-04   21:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: irishthatcherite (#44)

Wait til the Irish people realise they were lied to about Lisbon creating jobs!

Count that major point to be sure. Dead on the money.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-04   21:04:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Liberator (#45)

So what did I miss, IT?

What EU evil was your fair land strong-armed into buying?

The Lisbon Treaty! :(

POSTING FROM INSIDE THE NEW IRON CURTAIN

irishthatcherite  posted on  2009-10-04   22:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: buckeroo, Liberator (#48)

Count that major point to be sure. Dead on the money.

Especially when our economy is the most fucked in the developed world. Imagine, tyranny and depression rolled into one - might as well throw in a blight on the spuds....

Sorry for the late reply, I was distracted elsewhere. lol

POSTING FROM INSIDE THE NEW IRON CURTAIN

irishthatcherite  posted on  2009-10-04   22:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: IRTorqued (#27)

I'd caution against gatoraid because of its high fructose corn syrup content, in fact the only isotonic I've found where I live (coastal bend) is Quench (which is the store (HEB) brand) that does not list high fructose corn syrup as an ingredient all others list it as the first ingredient. if one is going to ingest high fructose corn syrup they may as well get vaccines, the mercury levels will be comparable.

I forgot it had that corn sweetener, because I make my own without any sweetening added from a formula I buy for the cows.

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-04   22:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Lod (#36)

Have you tried a blend of whiskey, honey and cinnamon?

Oh, that doesn't soudnd like anything I could keep down. I've been attempting the ginger tincture from my Chinese herbal remedy friend mixed with water.....but even that is causing more cramping and back ache. Uuuhhhggg.

This has been a completely miserable day.

abraxas  posted on  2009-10-04   22:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Liberator (#46)

Chicken soup, rest, bland food, rest...

Lib, I can't even keep down homemade chicken noodle soup. Lost it all when I tried yesterday. No food today, as the last two times I tried the smallest bit the cramps and backache came on and I had to give it up. I'm struggling to drink water right now.

abraxas  posted on  2009-10-04   22:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: christine (#37)

nausea is the absolute worst malady for me. i just want to commit hari kari.

It's worse than nausea, although I feel the same as you do about it. I can only describe the backache combined with stomach cramping as similar to back labor. That's no exaggeration on that analogy.

With this crap it's the worst just before I have to vomit. All clammy and flush with cramps and backache so bad I can't stand. I want to sleep but even that is proving difficult due to the backache and cramping.

abraxas  posted on  2009-10-04   22:47:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: abraxas (#54)

nausea

The best antidote for nausea is a ginger ale. Not too cold tho.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-10-04   22:53:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: abraxas (#34)

I have heard that about using Vicks on the feet just recently from a friend of mine. I haven't tried it yet. I was telling her about putting oils on my feet and she told me about that.

From my experience the hyssop oil has helped with my cats when they had been wheezing badly, my young deer last year, and children the animals don't care for the smell when I rub it on their chest but it really helped them. Then I would usually put colloidal silver in their water.

Here is something that I just received last Wednesday. I had ordered some stuff for my attempt at restoring my thyroid from this place and ran across this product. It really seems to be helping my joints and muscles. I am amazed with the results of this product so far and gave a jar of it to take with him. This has a section regarding lung health. Whether it will help it is hard to say but it may be worth trying this and hyssop. And I was using the Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth before I began using the oxygen stuff for my thyroid and noticed results rather rapidly.

This is from the website were I ordered from.

Food Grade Micro Fossil Shell Powder 84% Silicon Dioxide (Silica) Diatomaceous Earth There is no life without Silica !!

In 1939, the Nobel Prize winner for chemistry, Professor Adolf Butenant, proved that life can not exist without Silica. In the 2003 book "Water & Salt" Dr. Barbara Hendel states: "Silica it the most important trace mineral for human health!"

Silica plays an important role in many body functions and has a direct relationship to mineral absorption. The average human body holds approximately seven grams of silica, a quantity far exceeding the figures for other important minerals such as iron.

Lower High Blood Pressure! Of the thousands of people that are using Fossil Shell Powder, everyone that has high blood pressure has reported that it has gone down. I am not just talking a few points---I am talking about LIFE-CHANGING numbers. Doctors are amazed--customers are amazed---You will be too.

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For osteoporosis, silica can stop the pain and even restore the bodies self repair process. Osteoporosis symptoms attack women primarily after menopause but the degenerative process starts much earlier in their younger days. More women are dying of fractures caused by osteoporosis than of cancer of the breast, cervix, and uterus combined.

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Tissue degeneration accelerates due to aging when connective tissue develops an increasing inability to retain moisture when left unassisted. Silica can help slow the degenerative process of connective tissue. With silica, vitality and life, which are often lost as the years accumulate, can be naturally maintained or even restored to your skin. Collagen, largely made up of silica, is the glue that holds us together. If our body has enough silica glucosaminoglycane, the collagen will make us look younger. Silica helps with skin problems and injuries including itching, rashes, abscesses, boils, acne, callouses, warts, eczema's, burns, frostbite, benign skin sores, insect bites and bed sores.

If you regularly follow a silica regimen, your skin will keep its young look. A good silica supplementation program works far better than other products for maintaining healthier and longer lasting collagen.

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Teeth and Gums! By hardening the enamel, silica prevents cavities and preserves teeth. Silica also prevents bleeding gums, gum atrophy, and recession that causes the loosening of teeth, which could ultimately lead to tooth loss. Silica effectively fights ulceration and the decay of bones,teeth and also lessens inflammation.

Tough As Nails! Your nail plates are complex protein structures that grow four to five millimeters per month on average. With silica supplementation, fragile nails become normal within a short period of time. Silica will beautify the appearance of your nails and improve their hardness, making them shinier and less prone to breaking.

The restorative effects of silica will be most noticeable on your hair, skin, nails and teeth. Our skin and hair require silica essentially for the same purpose as do other tissues. As we know, the supporting collagen underneath the skin enhances elasticity and beauty. Collagen owes that quality to silica, which provides a beautiful complexion that is more than skin deep.

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* Silica lowers bad cholesterol and raises good * Silica fades age spots * Silica stimulates metabolism for higher energy levels * Fossil Shell Powder has a negative charge and bacteria has a positive charge. It is believed that FSP earth sweeps bacteria out of the body by trapping it in it's honeycomb shaped skeletal form.

* Silica supplementation helps repair and maintain vital lung tissues and protects them from pollution. By maintaining or restoring the elasticity of lung tissues, silica reduces inflammation in bronchitis.

* It acts as a cough decreasing agent. Silica tones the upper respiratory tract (nose, pharynx, larynx) and reduces swelling because of its positive action on the lymphatic system.

* Silica supplementation keeps menopause free of stress and helps to prevent many unwanted side-effects of menopause * Silica works with other antioxidants to prevent premature aging and to preserve youthfulness.

* Silica can help prevent kidney stones and heal infections of the urinary tract. It is a natural diuretic which can increase excretion of urine by 30 percent, thus flushing the water-excreting system and restoring normal function to these vital organs.

* The presence of sufficient silica in the intestines will reduce inflammation of the intestinal tract. It can cause disinfection in the case of stomach and intestinal mucus and ulcers. Silica can prevent or clear up diarrhea and its opposite, constipation.

* In regulating and normalizing the bowels, silica has a pleasant side effect; it can alleviate lower back pain, which often troubles the elderly.

* Silica proves effective with female discharge, abscesses and ulcers in the genital area and cervix, as well as mastitis (especially for breast feeding mothers). * The intake of silica acts as a supportive treatment for inflammation of the middle ear. Because of the beneficial effectiveness on the lymphatic system, silica can be used for swelling of the lymph nodes in the throat.

* Has anti-inflammatory disinfecting, absorbing and odor binding effects.

* Silica can normalize circulation and regulate high blood pressure (hypertension).

* Silica can decrease vertigo, headache, tinnitus (buzzing of the ears) and insomnia.

* Silica can help diabetes by promoting synthesis of elastase inhibitor by the pancreas.

* Silica can help arterial disease by strengthening the blood vessels. Studies confirm that with age, silica disappears from the aorta, the heart's key blood vessel thus weakening its critical connective tissue and resulting in a greater cardiac risk.

* Silica can help prevent Tuberculosis.

* By improving the elasticity of the joints, silica helps rheumatism.

* Silica has inhibitory effects on coronary diseases.

* Silica can help avoiding or alleviating Alzheimers disease by preventing the body from absorbing aluminum and may flush out aluminum from the tissues. Silica can stimulate the immune system.

This was only $17.00 a jar and as I said I am really pleased with it. I find I am able to stand with my shoulders straighter and not having issues with aches in my back and neck. My sense of smell is also coming back since I began taking this.

The Cayenne Fruit can be purchased from Wallmart for about $4.00 a bottle. It is a very bizarre type of thing. I take two a day and most of the time never feel a thing but if I have a sore throat or something is wrong inside I feel it burn when it is going down.

I just gave one to the 10 year old. I think she is coming down with this now. The other two are doing pretty well now just the tail end. Time to make more Colloidal Silver.

My ten year old when she was a baby and got colds she would have almost a whooping cough sound from her lungs, they attempted to put her on Albueterol. My son took that when he was a baby a few times and I did not care for it so with her the Colloidal Silver has really be great. It always clears that up. And the Hyssop has made it even shorter and she doesn't need any cough medicine with the last few colds since I put the hyssop oil on her pillow.

Hope you are feeling better when you read this!

MiracleRose7  posted on  2009-10-04   23:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: christine (#43)

Your Welcome. As I said it is great to use on the animals when they are having congestion issues also.

MiracleRose7  posted on  2009-10-04   23:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: abraxas (#54)

With this crap it's the worst just before I have to vomit. All clammy and flush with cramps and backache so bad I can't stand. I want to sleep but even that is proving difficult due to the backache and cramping.

Go to the friggin hospital ER NOW.

The ongoing backaches and cramps maybe due to electrolyte depletion.

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-05   0:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: buckeroo, critter, abraxas (#1)

Nurse Ratchet wants you in line at the local dispensary for your shot.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-05   0:36:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mininggold, abraxas (#58)

Go to the friggin hospital ER NOW.

The ongoing backaches and cramps maybe due to electrolyte depletion.

Ok if you won't go to the hospital there is an alternative that might help despite your stomach. In the children's/baby section there is popsicles that replenishes your electrolytes. Freeze them and suck on them slowly.

Pedialyte® Freezer Pops


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-10-05   0:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: abraxas (#53)

I can't even keep down homemade chicken noodle soup. Lost it all when I tried yesterday. No food today, as the last two times I tried the smallest bit the cramps and backache came on and I had to give it up. I'm struggling to drink water right now.

You're dehydrating.

You've gotta get some electrolytes down somehow....Use a heating pad to help relax your stomach/intestines as well might help.

Liberator  posted on  2009-10-05   0:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mininggold (#58)

hospital ER NOW

I don't agree. The hospital ER may only complicate matters. It's bound to be full of sick people. You may even get sicker from them. And they will surely give you the swine vaccine too. (if they have it in stock.)

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-10-05   0:54:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: irishthatcherite (#50)

our economy is the most fucked in the developed world. Imagine, tyranny and depression rolled into one - might as well throw in a blight on the spuds....

That's what the Lisbon Treaty's been all about?

What specifics are the worst? Wait - lemme guess: Accepting Third World freeploaders....er I mean freeloaders?

ICC will rule on Irish matters?

Liberator  posted on  2009-10-05   0:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Liberator (#63)

Sometymes within yor posts, you really act like a devil don't you?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-10-05   0:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Liberator (#47)

Curious about your thyroid "recipe." Iodine part of it?

This is what I am going to attempt in order to kick my thyroid in. Whether it will work or not is yet to be seen but I do know that when I drank Kombucha I did end up having to lower my thyroid medicine.

I am purging my body and getting it up to health by doing the following

1. Taking 17.5% food grade H2O2 This is like putting extra oxygen in my body

2. Doing the Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth. I really like this stuff and will continue on with it throughout and after I am done with some of the other stuff.

3. Fucoxanthin-Fucoxanthin is an all natural pigment found in Wakame Seaweed from the Sea of Japan. Fucoxanthin, when taken in small doses, targets abdominal fat and breaks it down allowing the body to metabolize it. This breakdown is known as metabolic thermogenesis and it's discovery has intrigued doctors and scientists everywhere. Study after study verifies that fucoxanthin is a safe, effective way to combat fat accumulation, especially in the stomach and abdominal regions. Fucoxanthin is a new and innovative way to reduce excess body fat and increase energy while still allowing you to go about your normal lifestyle.

Evidence shows that Fucoxanthin is a powerful antioxidant and protects cells from free radical damage. It may also support your: Cardiovascular Health Inflammatory Response Optimal Cholesterol and Triglyceride Levels Optimal Blood Pressure Levels Healthy Liver Function Thyroid Health Fights against Diabetes & Cancer

I imagine that it does contain some iodine and what caused the heart to react due to over stimulation of the thyroid. Although I would be ecstatic to loss some weight this is not the main reason I am taking this it is for my thyroid.

After two weeks I will stop the Fucoxanthin then I will go on HCG

HCG Diet Frequently Asked Questions

What is HCG and how does it work? HCG is a hormone naturally produced in the body. It has many functions and is used medically to treat a variety of conditions. It is the pregnancy hormone. This hormone allows the body to metabolize fat and use it as energy for both mother and fetus. This acts as a “fail-safe” mechanism when energy is needed immediately. For weight loss, we use only a very small amount of HCG to capitalize on this same mechanism. Using HCG in this way does not mimic pregnancy; in fact, it can be safely used by both men and women.

I guess it is a big diet thing and can be very costly but I got it for $40.00 a bottle. My main reason for this is I found it doing a research on the thyroid. And on the website it has this below.

What is the Hypothalamus? The hypothalamus is involved in your metabolism "setpoint". With age, the hypothalamus builds up toxins & begins to malfunction. It may explain part of why our metabolism goes down with age, we have more & more sleeping difficulties, and hormonal/ovulatory disturbances as well as other symptoms.

The Hypothalamus is the control center of all autonomic regulatory activities of the body. It has been said that the hypothalamus is the brain of the brain. It is the hub for automatic and endocrine homeostatic systems such as cardiovascular, temperature, and abdominal visceral regulation. It manages all endocrine hormonal levels, sensory processing, and organizing body metabolism, as well as ingestion behaviors. It appears that almost everything the Hypothalamus does is related in some way to the management of brain and body connection, linking the psyche (mind) to the body.

The hypothalamus controls:

Pituitary gland regulation Blood Pressure regulation Hunger & Salt cravings Feeding Reflexes Thirst Body temperature regulation Hydration Heart rate Bladder function (hcg can remedy prostate problems) Water preservation Hormonal/neurotransmitter regulation Ovarian function Testicular function Mood & behavioral functions Wakefulness Metabolism Sleep cycles Energy levels

In addition, homeopathic hcg on it's own is used for:

Increasing energy Increasing muscle tone Reducing excess body fat Rejuvenation of necessary structural fat Lowering cholesterol levels Improving adrenal gland function Maintaining progesterone levels

With this I am suppose to be on 500 calorie diet for a month. If I can get my pituitary gland to kick in I believe this will help my thyroid.

After a month I go off this and will go back on to the Fucoxanthin if needed. Then in a month back on the HCG if I have lost the weight I desire to the second time I will not diet but just take the HCG.

So this is my plan. Time will tell if it works or not. I am sick of the FDA and having to go to the doctors every year for my thyroid. If I can get off the medicine I will be happy.

MiracleRose7  posted on  2009-10-05   1:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: sizzlerguy (#62) (Edited)

I don't agree. The hospital ER may only complicate matters. It's bound to be full of sick people. You may even get sicker from them. And they will surely give you the swine vaccine too. (if they have it in stock.)

The poster needs IV fluids/electrolytes and maybe a shot of compazine NOW. Any hospital worth it's salt will put him in isolation.

Flu vaccines are contraindicated in a person while suffering from the flu.

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-05   1:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: buckeroo (#64)

Sometymes within yor posts, you really act like a devil don't you?

Stop - I'm blushing.

Hey - you and the gang knock off that bottle of Petron yet?

Liberator  posted on  2009-10-05   1:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: mininggold (#66)

in isolation

I don't know many hospitals that don't make all patients wait in the waiting room for hours with a bunch of other sick people.

Then, you gotta' wait at the next "check-point" for quite a while in big room, seperated only by cloth drapes, Right.?

So, the patient is exposed to a variety of unknown airborn viruses before even seeing a quack. Right.?

And, chances are, most ER will be sizzlin' crowded with sick folks too. Right.?

So, all I can say, is, avoid hospitals and clinics at all cost unless the fever is really extreme.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2009-10-05   1:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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